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10 Day Water Fast – An Experiment

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  • Originally posted by Stillness View Post
    Day 7: 208.4
    Day 8: 207.2


    The negative symptoms have tapered off along with the pace of weight loss. I could do this indefinitely. I’d like to try 2+ weeks in the future. I might do it now if I didn’t have a trip planned.

    Decided to slightly prolong the refeeding process. Every source says it’s critical to do it with care. In addition to the liquids on day 11, I’ll eat light, simple foods on day 12.
    At this point l would consider your continuing water weight loss to be minimal. l assume you are still exercising. Have you had your electrolytes checked to see if you are still good?
    I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
    ...
    Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

    From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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    • Originally posted by jns View Post

      At this point l would consider your continuing water weight loss to be minimal. l assume you are still exercising. Have you had your electrolytes checked to see if you are still good?
      Yes, I exercise daily.

      No, I haven’t had any medical supervision. I never have for what I’ve done, besides asking my doctor about juice fasting a few years ago and getting annual physical results.

      I also research what I do, look at how others have done it, and proceed with care. And I’m building on what I’ve done myself. A healthy body is pretty tough and intelligently handles scarcity.
      "Those sowing seed with tears
      Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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      • Day 9: 205.8
        Day 10: 205.0
        Day 11: 204.2
        "Those sowing seed with tears
        Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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        • Refeed Day 2: 203.4 Lbs.; Waist 44-7/8" (measured yesterday)

          This is my last record for now. I broke my fast unceremoniously with half of a blackberry yesterday. The other half went into a juice that tasted like a symphony on my tongue. I literally felt tears well up in my eyes at the first sip. I'm not sure if it was emotions, some sort of physiological response, or a combination of the two.

          I didn't expect to lose 20 pounds.
          It used to take me three times as long to do that with juices and smoothies. I didn't realize how much easier it is to fast with liquid food until I ate a hot soup during dinner with my wife. It used to be harder for me. Now it's a cakewalk. The weakness and fatigue of the water fast is gone - replaced with all the power and mental acuity I used to enjoy deep into my green juice fasts last year. I'm not ready to stop.

          My final picture showed me slimmer, but still shockingly out of shape. Taking those pictures alone made this experience well worth it. It was eye-opening. Fasting may not be for everyone, but I think everyone should see a naked picture of themselves. I've been in a mental fog about my body for too long. No more.

          Still my body is harder. My mind and my determination too. This was life-changing. Knowing something can be done and doing it are very different things. There's much more to say, but I'm out of time.
          "Those sowing seed with tears
          Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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          • Congratulations on your fast. It sounds like you will get to where you want to be. Yesterday I wore 42 inch waist shorts that fit comfortably. It has been a while for that. Some others of that size are still tight. I hope that Kmart survives as it is the go to place for my clothes.
            I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
            ...
            Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

            From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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            • KMart is goin' down jns...lol sorry!
              Congratulations Still! Stay healthy, Friend!

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              • Originally posted by Stillness View Post
                [FONT=Calibri][B]Refeed Day 2: 203.4 Lbs.
                I didn't expect to lose 20 pounds..
                great job on losing 20# Stillness

                wondering how the weight will stay off once regular eating is resumed?
                regain at all after fasting or does your body maintain the weight loss?

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                • Originally posted by amy40 View Post

                  great job on losing 20# Stillness

                  wondering how the weight will stay off once regular eating is resumed?
                  regain at all after fasting or does your body maintain the weight loss?
                  Thanks, Amy. I typically allow myself to regain 7-8 pounds after my longer fasts. I haven’t done just water this long, so I don’t exactly know what to expect.

                  Unfortunately my schedule ripped me away from conducting this little experiment in the ideal way. I still haven’t resumed normalcy and won’t until next week. I’ll weigh myself then and update.

                  "Those sowing seed with tears
                  Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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                  • 2 Weeks After

                    I've changed. I don’t know how much is mental and how much is physical. I’m a more energetic person. My sense of well-being has improved. My mind is sharper and stronger. I rise from sleep easier and seem to need less of it. My tolerance for pain, discomfort, and stress is higher. I have a chemical sensitivity, but I’m either less bothered by chemical scents now or just deal with the symptoms better. That’s just naming a few things.

                    My relationship with food is permanently changed. I started to realize it once I began eating again. It became dramatically clear when I spent time with others. Food for me is not what it is for most people.

                    I knew I’d shrink, but I didn’t see the other changes coming. I’d hoped for general healing. I didn’t mention that at the outset or list it as a goal, partially because it’s vague and difficult to track. I view obesity itself as a disease, so any move away from an obese state is towards healing. But I still feel like something is wrong with me because of how hard it is for me to lose weight and how easily I gain it. I’m hoping that when I slim down more it will resolve.

                    I neither recommend nor advise against long term fasting. I think just about anyone can do it. I’m a better version of myself afterwards. I understand more. I believe fasting would have that effect on almost anyone. I think a person that’s willingly fasted for a while moves through life differently than someone that has not.

                    That being said, I’m told there are dangers, particularly with breaking a long term fast. I didn’t fully follow the recommendations, but I didn’t notice any negative results. The 6th day after I started eating I was very constipated. But I was out of town with a busy schedule, had eaten out every day, and wasn’t drinking water like I normally do, so I don’t know for sure how much it was related to the fast, if at all.

                    More and more people are becoming aware of the power of fasting as more do it and the body of research on it grows. Still, I see negative stuff from time to time. What I never see is something negative from someone that’s actually done it. This has been one of the most positive, life-changing experiences I’ve ever had. I’ll do it again in the near future.


                    Weight as of now: 209.8 lbs
                    "Those sowing seed with tears
                    Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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                    • Refeeding Update

                      If at any point in this thread I minimized the importance of refeeding, I was very wrong. It's extremely important.

                      I just had the worst bout of diarrhea and vomiting I've had in a long time - maybe ever - after a short fast. It's an issue I've dealt with for a year. I've suspected it was connected to my changed lifestyle, but couldn't quite figure out how. Now I know with almost absolute certainty that it's entirely a refeeding issue.

                      I first experienced it back in January, maybe even before. I mentioned in in the AC6 thread here:

                      Originally posted by Stillness View Post
                      I've been having weird health issues. It started about a month and a half ago with what I thought was food poisoning. Then I had a long bout with the flu - almost a month. Now, I'm having strange digestive issues - somewhat similar to food poisoning, only it comes and goes. I can't figure it out.
                      At that point, Kitty suggested organic apple cider vinegar and that seemed to give me relief, but I still dealt with the problem from time to time after fasting for more than a day or so. I tried to experiment with different foods to make sure I wasn’t having some kind of allergic reaction, but got nowhere. The really discouraging thing is that once it happened, I often struggled to get it to stop.

                      After the 10-day fast I had no issues. I ate any and everything afterwards. Restaurant food every day for 9 days. Dairy, eggs, chips, fried foods, salty, oily, junky sugary food - no problem. I felt great. Then I come home and do a 2.5-day fast and I’m sick after eating healthy, homemade food. The difference – no refeeding process.

                      As I mentioned, once I’d get this issue, I couldn’t easily get back to normal. That was because I didn’t understand that it’s a mechanical issue in the digestive system. After being sick Thursday-Saturday, I did some careful refeeding. Now I’m back to normal.

                      My friend said he has a very similar issue. What I suspect is that the pyloric sphincter jams for some reason if you eat too much solid food too fast and haven’t had enough fluids. I have absolutely no medical basis for saying that, nor have I read it or heard it anywhere. It’s just what I feel is happening. Either way, the fasting itself is not the dangerous part of a fast. I have seen that repeatedly. Now I know it.
                      "Those sowing seed with tears
                      Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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                      • Do you take a probiotic besides the ACV?

                        There is a phenomenon with reintroducing food after a period of starvation. (I'm talking about people or animals who have experienced prolonged periods with no food). There is a biological reason to go slow once food is "found", or reintroduced.

                        Glad you are having a good period of loss and growth through this experience!

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                        • Originally posted by atskitty2 View Post
                          Do you take a probiotic besides the ACV?
                          No. I really don’t take ACV on a regular basis...just sometimes when I’ve had these issues. But I’m strongly suspecting that it isn’t an issue with flora, but a mechanical one.

                          Imagine trying to dump thick oatmeal down a small, dry drain. It doesn’t flow well and backs it up. Add more on top and it gets even worse. But if you get the drain flowing first and pour in water with the oatmeal to break it up, there’s no problem.

                          That’s the way I see the issue with reintroducing solid food after fasting. A fasting person can get too eager with solid food and overwhelm a stalled digestive system. The food can’t pass from the stomach into the intestines. A ton of water comes out as the body attempts to flush it through. In the more severe cases like I had this past week, it comes back up. I suspect the reason your ACV worked for me was more mechanical and/or chemical (like using drain-o), than bacterial.

                          But, I don’t claim to have it all figured out and I’m open to being wrong. Incidentally, I’m having minor issues right now, just after breaking my daily fast last night. I forced myself to drink water just now, so I’ll see if it works.
                          "Those sowing seed with tears
                          Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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                          • 3 Month Update

                            I’ve now done my second long term water fast, this time twice as long. It was murder. I might do the 10 day again, but probably never 3 weeks again. Right now I’m not keen on either. I can feel that the recovery will be much slower. My gut flora has probably been decimated.

                            I stumbled upon the fact that I have been overusing water. With much less, the fast was never physically difficult. I think that fat is also burned more quickly. For the foreseeable future, I’ll be using that knowledge during much shorter fasts to reach my goals.
                            "Those sowing seed with tears
                            Will reap with a joyful shout." - Psalm 126

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