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  • #16
    Originally posted by rhutes View Post
    yes, he is excited and happy for me. he is also worried but at the same time he has no doubts that this time everything is going to work.
    although we're not married yet
    PS I got scared the first time I have found out about the surrogacy rules in biotexcom that they do not take in programs those who're not married but such rules are not applied to IVF and I was so happy
    no I haven't been there before everything and also I haven't had the ET in Kyev yet
    Lucky you, I was also informed about that rules, but as we have signed the package with transfer to a surrogacy, we were told that we have to be married, it's quite a different journey. I'm glad that you won't have any problems with the legislations and biotex rules.
    don't afraid of the embryo transfer. It won't take long, approximately 15 minutes and this is painless. So, no worries about it. They use a moderately full bladder for embryo transfer. This helps in 2 important ways. It allows good ultrasound visualization of the catheter which helps with smooth and proper transfer of the embryos to the best location, and it also unfolds the uterus to a more accommodating angle, making the process smoother and less traumatic for the uterine lining and the embryos.
    oh nearly forgot to mention, they recommend women that they do not fly out on the day of the transfer, but wait until the next day. For patients that are diving back home - it is acceptable to drive home (regardless of the length of the drive) after one hour of bedrest in the clinic following the transfer procedure.
    So, good luck xxx

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    • #17
      oh yes, you have to be married if you want to opt for surrogacy in Ukraine. this is by far the toughest requirement I have met in biotex. well, for now I do not have to follow it but if nothing works I am going to have to think about surrogacy, right? and it scares me so I am prating every day and night that this is my time, this is my successful attempt. the one I have been dreaming of my whole life. It's quite sad that we're not in the "natural" league anymore, that normal life is over for us. for people like us.
      I know that ET is supposed to be painless but I am afraid still. I know that the donor will be going through a worse thing as egg collection but I am so self-centered that everything that is not about me seems to be unimportant and easy... well, I say that because I had an argument with my man and he said that I am too careless when it comes to our donor, that I do not give her credit at all but I do. I am grateful that she's helping us but I am also a human and I cannot always think about others....
      oh my.. sorry for this rant
      yes,I have heard of such recommendations but i have heard as well that you can even go to the ladies room after the Et and flights are not forbidden. as they are using a lot of new techniques foe ET like embryo glue so it boosts the chances of pregnancy and dismiss all of the requirement like laying down for 2 hours after the procedure and such.

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      • #18
        yes, if you want to apply for an egg donation it's not so important to be married. But in case of the surrogacy, you have to be officially married, it's all because of ukrainian legislation. According to it, only married couples have a right to take a part in the surrogacy process. They have to submit a medical certificate that proves their genetic relationship to a child and the surrogate’s written consent to record their names on the birth certificate of the child she delivered. The names of the intended (genetic) parents are written in the birth certificate upon the child’s birth. There is no need to get any special permits from any committee, court or other institution. No adoption procedure is required.
        no you are ok, you are willing to do whatever you want, I think that my donor is great and I'm grateful to her that she decided to donate her eggs for us, I suppose it's to be very nice from her. Of course, we will never see or meet her but if I have a chance to do it I would hug her and say thank you. Honestly, I don't want my child see her in the future. I'm the only mother for my child.
        oh, fantastic news, this embryo glue cuts lots of risks after the transfer, do you want them to use it?

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        • #19
          yes, but let me appreciate your detailed reply haha well, it is true that somehow ukrainians are very strict when it comes to marriage or something, they are not yet on the same page with Europe in terms of same sex marriage but I think they are going there, they will be accepting gay people more as I remember seeing Ukraine in the list of countries where gay [parade took place. well, this is somthing.
          well, do you think that donors in biotexcom know the parents to whom they donate their egg cells? I think that she just signs the contract and that's it, she undergoes the stimulation and gives her eggs. but I doubt she cares that much about those who use her eggs for their own good.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rhutes View Post
            yes, but let me appreciate your detailed reply haha well, it is true that somehow ukrainians are very strict when it comes to marriage or something, they are not yet on the same page with Europe in terms of same sex marriage but I think they are going there, they will be accepting gay people more as I remember seeing Ukraine in the list of countries where gay [parade took place. well, this is somthing.
            well, do you think that donors in biotexcom know the parents to whom they donate their egg cells? I think that she just signs the contract and that's it, she undergoes the stimulation and gives her eggs. but I doubt she cares that much about those who use her eggs for their own good.
            Don't you think it's cruel in relation to the 'her babies, her future babies'?
            oh, it will make things easier, I mean the permission of same sex marriage. I suppose lots of couples, gay couples will have an opportunity to build completed families in Ukraine.
            oh, nearly forgot to mention, you didn't answer my question about embryo glue, do you want your clinic use it for you?

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            • #21
              Egg donation is one of the options you could use. My mum gave birth when she was 38, which is pretty late. Even though the doctors told her that she is infertile. She participated in this programm, had no medication, only healthy diet and a good sleeping regime. Have a look.
              Last edited by atskitty2; 04-23-2017, 09:48 AM.

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              • #22
                Melania, I edited to remove link from your post. Please refer to forum rules, and enjoy the site

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                • #23
                  rhutes - I have no dir experiences, but a few friends of mine have undergone ivf with donors eggs. Ladies traveled to Czech rep where ivf is more affordable. If you want to know more about egg donation treatment, prices and clinics' stats I highly recommend visiting eggdonationfriends com, that gives insight into top ivf clinics in the world. Good luck

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Melania Foster View Post
                    Egg donation is one of the options you could use. My mum gave birth when she was 38, which is pretty late. Even though the doctors told her that she is infertile. She participated in this programm, had no medication, only healthy diet and a good sleeping regime. Have a look.
                    Healthy diet, what she used to eat? As far as I know, some women eat a lot of Brazil nuts and avocados, a lot of water and cold water fish. Only organic food, right?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gracee View Post

                      Don't you think it's cruel in relation to the 'her babies, her future babies'?
                      oh, it will make things easier, I mean the permission of same sex marriage. I suppose lots of couples, gay couples will have an opportunity to build completed families in Ukraine.
                      oh, nearly forgot to mention, you didn't answer my question about embryo glue, do you want your clinic use it for you?
                      I would want them to do so but I guess they decided that there's no use of it as ,y endo was 10 mm before the transfer. they told me that embryo glue is the procedure that is often used on those who're struggling with having their embies stick. plus it would've been a lot easier and safer after the transfer. I would really want to not being said to lay down for 2 hours and hvaing the right to go to the toilet right after the procedure...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by crazzzylady View Post
                        rhutes - I have no dir experiences, but a few friends of mine have undergone ivf with donors eggs. Ladies traveled to Czech rep where ivf is more affordable. If you want to know more about egg donation treatment, prices and clinics' stats I highly recommend visiting eggdonationfriends com, that gives insight into top ivf clinics in the world. Good luck
                        thank you
                        and good luck with whatever you're up to now
                        well, honestly, Czech is affordable but not as much as Ukraine. I have been comaring the prices and services i could get for the same amount of money and Ukraine wins here. this is a bit unfortunate for Czech Republic though. But you should not base your decision on pure money but do a proper research.still, biotexcom was a win win for me.

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                        • #27
                          egg donation is an excellent option to become a mother, even when there are certain health problems. So you can give birth to native kid, when there is no opportunity to conceive.
                          I am not experienced with this procedure, but it touched my close friend, which was upset that she and her husband did not become parents. Many options were considered, clinics and specialists. The choice was for the clinic BioTexCom, which is located in Ukraine, Kiev. After numerous tests and consultations, the experts advised egg donation. My friend and her husband have received medication, then now is the time of the procedure. During this period, we were always in touch, I supported and believed in success!
                          And here is a miracle! After transplantation of embryos, they reported the good news that they will be able to become parents not one child but two! Now they have two adorable kids!
                          I hope this story will help you make the right decision and feel the joy of motherhood. Best wishes

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rhutes View Post

                            I would want them to do so but I guess they decided that there's no use of it as ,y endo was 10 mm before the transfer. they told me that embryo glue is the procedure that is often used on those who're struggling with having their embies stick. plus it would've been a lot easier and safer after the transfer. I would really want to not being said to lay down for 2 hours and hvaing the right to go to the toilet right after the procedure...
                            why is so? I mean it wouldn't have been a lot easier and safer after the transfer?
                            you were able to go home right after embryo transfer, am I right?
                            oh, I'm curious, when you came there? a day before transfer or earlier?

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                            • #29
                              Because when you're using embryo glue it automatically means that you are not obliged to follow all those restrictions and stuff because your embryos are going to stick anyways. plus it is so hard to not go to toilet before and after ET. it's hell. and lying down for 2 hours straight.. when you are bursting and want to pee sorry for the bad wording
                              yes, all of us basically can do so but it is full of risks to take a flight because gravity...
                              5 or 6 days earlier. I had to be there so they could monitor the growth of my lining

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                              • #30
                                oh, thank you. now it has sense to me.
                                yes, the same was with me. they told me to come 4 days before to see my lining. thanks god everything was ok.
                                where did you leave during this time.? did you have a transportation to the clinic and food as well?


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