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  • kaylar

    Putting Up With .......


    PUTTING UP WITH.....

    We all have images of ourselves; what we can and can't deal with,
    what we can and can't accept. Then, we find ourselves in a
    situation which we never envisioned, and run around looking for
    the 'right' answer.

    We usually look to societal mores, our friends, our culture, and
    then, via that lens, determine 'right' and 'wrong' what is
    'acceptable' and 'unacceptable'.

    I touched this topic in another thread which led to absolute
    confusion, anger, attack, etc. but hopefully, in this thread,
    the meanings will be a lot clearer.

    we all have this superego of 'right' and 'wrong' which might
    conflict with what we want or feel or wish. This superego
    can be reduced to 'Them'.

    'Them' or 'They' are society. We try to conform to society
    or we try to rebel against society, and when it is our choice
    we can deal with the conflict.

    When it is NOT our choice, when our husbands present something
    to us which we have generically rejected or 'that will never
    happen to me!' we enter the realms of dilema;

    WHAT DO I DO NOW?
    WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW?

    A wife learns her husband has a mistress, or he's an alcoholic,
    or he's gay; aspects she never dreamed of; never expected,
    and can only run to THEY or THEM to gain;

    "What does the society I live in think of....and how does the
    society I live in proscribe reaction?"


    A beauty queen married a fellow we all believed was gay,
    and she learned this for a fact in an almost theatrical
    denouement.

    She instanteously left her husband, travelled a thousand
    miles away, and launched divorce proceedings.

    Anthony Perkins, the American Actor, (Psycho) was gay.
    Or Bi.
    He married Beryl, (she died on flight 93 on 9/11) and they
    had a very happy relationship until he died.

    That he was gay (or bi) never effected their relationship.

    In fact, Beryl was one of the most thorougly happy women
    you ever wish to meet...(she lived in jamaica on Treasure
    Beach and used to walk barefoot with beads on her toes
    and legs); and everything was a joy.

    It didn't bother her that her husband might go out and
    engage in a homosexual tryst; she loved him, he loved
    her. End of story.

    Most women couldn't possibly survive such a situation,
    but she could.

    So when it comes to what you can or can't put up with;
    that is personal to you. You can't take any blueprint from
    anywhere; your relationship is unique and special in its
    own way.

    If you can deal with your husband's outside lovers,
    (male or female) then there is no reason to follow
    your society's 'rules'; there is nothing 'wrong' with you.

    Relationships between people, true relationships, have
    more to them than 'bed & breakfast'.

    We all know people who divorced twenty years ago
    who are still friends, people who have done terrible
    things, yet, outside of that, they are very nice to us.

    Any time something 'unacceptable' happens in a relationship,
    ask; "Is this truly unacceptable to me or is it that as a
    product of my society I MUST find it unacceptable?"




  • JubesInquest
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 464

    To Each His Own

    Hi Kaylar,

    well, when we post, people may or may not understand what we're saying.
    Sometimes that leads to confustion, anger and the attacks that you've mentioned.

    Your point is well-taken that it is a matter of personal preference; meaning that it is "to each his own" as to what one can and can NOT endure.

    It's been said, many times, that Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith have an "open" marriage. The comedienne/actor Monique says she has an "open" marriage.
    That's an arrangement that many live with and are ok with.
    If they like it, I LOVE IT!!!

    I did read the topic that you are referring to, and all I can say is that it is all about what the young lady can live with. If she can deal with what she's thinking is happening, then fine. If she doesn't want to live that way, then I'm sure she will find a way to handle it.

    In short, I'm saying I understand what you're talking about.

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    • mr.mansview
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 1173

      you two girls are "deep"..for a second there i thought i clicked onto dr. phil's website; you darn near fried my brain..
      a smart man learns from his mistakes..a wise man learns from the mistakes of others..

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      • kaylar


        My girlhood is, alas, long gone.
        As an attorney at law, (yes, women can be lawyers!)
        who does some work in Women's Issues...(even draft laws!)
        I am familiar with the situation where the wife can 'live with'
        whatever, but feels that society condemns her for it and
        so often is of two minds about divorce.

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