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  • nineonline
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 4

    Professional Help Needed?

    I sure hope not. I've seen a medical professional before for help with family
    issues and I can't say it helped much :S I apologize in advance if this story
    is all over the place.


    So, I am a single 34 year old female. Just having recently turned 34 I've been
    spending some time reflecting on my life and how I've been living it and
    thinking about what I want for the future etc.


    Just to give you some background about me, I am the youngest of 5, siblings are
    now 3 in total, all my siblings are from previous marriages on both my parents
    sides. My Mom passed away a couple years ago. People have told me that I'm too
    deep ... I personally feel there's a lot of shallow people in the world and I
    feel I grew up pretty quick ... yet, the 'youngest' in me feels like I'm still a
    baby. Neither of my parents discussed sex with me nor ever shown interest in my
    personal life where boyfriends have been concerned.


    There are 10+ years between all of my siblings and myself. Raised in a small
    town and privately schooled in a Christian school for the majority of my
    education. Our home was not even close to being religious. We are/were your
    typical dysfunctional family. Nothing majorly wrong though .... I guess :S in
    my opinion.

    My issue begins with the type of woman I am, how I relate to men, if I need to
    change that ... basically how to move forward in life with relationships where
    men are concerned.

    I was the fat kid in public school and throughout much of high-school. Come
    high-school I took on the regular preoccupation most teens did with makeup, hair
    and clothes. I had low self esteem but always managed to find some happiness
    with myself.

    I was the girl who was friends with all the boys. I had 3 brothers growing up,
    2 boys next door who I played sports with on the regular and was very adaptable
    when it came to switching gears to play with the girls.

    In high-school all my girlfriends had boyfriends. They were always being chased
    and I was always watching. These are now the same girls who had children at a
    very early age, became single parents ... there was always some kind of drama,
    and a big part of me always appreciated that I didn't have to deal with that.
    It has always felt that I had a different kind of connection with the opposite
    sex.

    This has effected me in such a way that I feel lost when dealing with men. Then
    sometimes I end up telling myself I just haven't met the right person.


    There are two instances in life that I struggle to understand if and how they
    effect me in relation to the opposite sex.


    The first begins when I was about 18. Not being able to have the same
    experiences as my friends in a regular social setting I resorted to phone chat
    lines. I spoke with a guy a couple years older than me and we agreed to meet.
    I went to his house where he lived with his Mom. We mostly hung out in his room
    that day, listened to music and watched videos.


    After about an hour he got up and shut his door and then locked it. Of course I
    found this strange. Things got even stranger when he turned up the music so
    loud that we couldn't even really talk. Before I knew it my ankles were behing
    my ears. I won't go into detail about all that happened next but I would use
    words like disturbing, scarry and violated to describe the experience.


    When he was done he had me drive his Mom, him and his dog to the vet. We never
    saw eachother again after that.


    I was determined to not blame myself and not allow the experience to disrupt or
    ruin my sexuality. I burried the experience and carried on with life. It
    wasn't up until after about 25 that I really started to become sexually active
    on the regular.


    At about 27 I spent a lot of time with someone I considered a good friend. I
    never dreamed of ever being sexual with him. He was an ex of a best friend of
    mine. I felt very close to him much the way I felt with the boys next door
    growing up and my brothers.


    I learned one day in a very drunen situation that he had other intentions
    towards me. They were very aggressively expressed and the experience left me
    reeling. At first I was hurt. Then I was confused. Then I became submissive.
    This was probably the most passionate experience I've ever had. Of course, the
    friendship was lost. The sex was incredible.

    I have always wondered why I can never seem to blend the two together. I guess
    it would be odd to want to have sex with someone you feel connected to in a
    platonic way. I 'make friends' with men, even when I find them attractive, and
    the thought of sex never naturally seems to come to mind.

    My last boyfriend was when I was 16. We never had sex. I would say 99% of my
    sexual experiences to date have been in situations where there is no loss of
    friendship. It is always NSA and quite often with people I don't know very
    well. Purely sexual.

    For about the past 4 years I've been dating. It quickly turns sexual, never my
    initiative, and I quickly write the idea of a relationship off. I don't like to
    think of sex as bad but a big part of me has a hard time bringing sex into a
    dating relationship and maintaining a decent level of respect for my partner.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not disrespectful towards them. It's just once sex is
    introduced I go kind of nuts and it becomes alll about sex.

    It's like I've over corrected myself when I think of recovering from my past.
    How can I balance a healthy relationship with a man AND sex?
  • CHANDLERS WISH
    • Mar 2008
    • 22440

    nineonline, welcome to this Forum...

    My heart broke a little reading this, your intelligent,yet confused let's break this down..

    Neither of my parents discussed sex with me
    Possibly as a result, all you ever saw was love... A man will see you for you, love you.. Yet men are like anything in the Animal kingdom, animals, that will sort out their pray the more vulverable the better...Your not an orphan...

    I was the fat kid in public school and throughout much of high-school. Come
    high-school I took on the regular preoccupation most teens did with makeup, hair
    and clothes. I had low self esteem but always managed to find some happiness
    with myself
    wht'
    Low self esteme, non knowledge of love, verses, sex, verses type, off course again can make you nieve, regardless of age, it's knowledge, not actual age.... so don't beat yourself up..

    In high-school all my girlfriends had boyfriends. They were always being chased
    and I was always watching. These are now the same girls who had children at a
    very early age, became single parents
    Sweet, I can bet they went through what you went through as well, used, abused, settled and then left the men...

    Yet, what you wanted was what they wanted, what they had at that time, but you recognise that it didn't work for them, they ended up single, your questioning now are / where they better are you? Truth is, you, they were all confused, as well... See?

    The first begins when I was about 18. Not being able to have the same
    experiences as my friends in a regular social setting I resorted to phone chat
    lines. I spoke with a guy a couple years older than me and we agreed to meet.
    I went to his house where he lived with his Mom. We mostly hung out in his room
    that day, listened to music and watched videos.


    After about an hour he got up and shut his door and then locked it. Of course I
    found this strange. Things got even stranger when he turned up the music so
    loud that we couldn't even really talk. Before I knew it my ankles were behing
    my ears.
    It's okay you were nieve, 18, don't be confused, you were searching, on line dating , he was calcultated, evil if you will, turned the music up in case he was caught out, I'm sorry you went through this, selfishness... Again, you trusted okay you did nothing wrong, having said that, your 34, heal, realise it was him not you, and if you can't please seek professional help ... This is disturbing at 34 to live this past and still be single, do NOT let this affect you anymore, you were young and he was wrong... He took without your permission...

    They were very aggressively expressed and the experience left me
    reeling. At first I was hurt. Then I was confused. Then I became submissive.
    This was probably the most passionate experience I've ever had. Of course, the
    friendship was lost. The sex was incredible
    In my opinion, you learnt to see sex as love as a result of the past .. But again got let down..... Sex was aggressive, yet, when you were submissive, he was probably tamer and you felt something for him, because all you want and wanted, and want is LOVE. So you felt passion within the aggression... Don't be confused over this for future, you thought you had a friend and this time, he would love you... The sex being incredible means you felt you found it and so gave and so, he was softer in the end, as well as aggressive which made you feel special, he enjoyed the sex, so you had to be great... and you were. .
    PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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    • CHANDLERS WISH
      • Mar 2008
      • 22440

      For about the past 4 years I've been dating. It quickly turns sexual, never my
      initiative, and I quickly write the idea of a relationship off. I don't like to
      think of sex as bad but a big part of me has a hard time bringing sex into a
      dating relationship and maintaining a decent level of respect for my partner.
      Don't get me wrong, I'm not disrespectful towards them. It's just once sex is
      introduced I go kind of nuts and it becomes alll about sex.

      It's like I've over corrected myself when I think of recovering from my past.
      How can I balance a healthy relationship with a man AND sex?
      For about the past 4 years I've been dating. It quickly turns sexual, never my
      initiative, and I quickly write the idea of a relationship off.
      Don't let it turn into sexual quickly your ot nieve any more you intelligent, you can do this... Know that men are instintively, sexual that's all they are after, to win their love they need to get to know you, be rejected, over and over for a few dates and then as a result they get to knowyou, and as a result they like you, know they can't get you into bed and see you for you, so WANT A RELATIONSHIP Don't write it off, your causing it, take that in the right way, be strong,love yourself, belief, and hold out, don't ask if they want to be your boyfriend, get to that gym, buy that dress, colour your hair, tell yourself, you get nothing, and you ain't seen nothing yet, I am beautiful, I know what I want who I am, and, I realise that men can and will take if not ready, or not looking or have a box they put the thoughts in to what they want, but when they see me, and know that I don't give it up, I know what I am seeking and looking for, pfttt find another girl for ALL that....

      Re-read over and over..
      PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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      • nineonline
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 4

        Wow, I didn't think anyone would reply so soon. Thank you. I appreciate the patience and time it probably takes to review my story. Sorry in advance for not understanding how to reply with quotes properly - I hope what I've done here works.

        "Possibly as a result, all you ever saw was love... A man will see you for you, love you.. Yet men are like anything in the Animal kingdom, animals, that will sort out their pray the more vulverable the better...Your not an orphan..."
        Wow, you're absolutely correct here, all I ever did see was love .... and some fighting of course. Once I over heard my parents having sex, I was about 12 I guess. It was very passionate .... and kind of scarry (for me to hear).

        "You're not an orphan" ?
        I don't quite understand the purpose of that statement.

        "your questioning now are / where they better are you? Truth is, you, they were all confused, as well... See?"
        When I reflect on the choices of others I certainly don't come from a place where I think I am better than anyone else. We simply made different choices. I saw the mistakes as they were being made and although I never had anyone to make these bad choices with it was all the same in that I knew the realtionships were unhealthy. At my current age I also think to myself have I avoided living? Making choices to not settle throughout my adult life has left me surrounded by people who have gotten married and started families. That can be difficult to watch and live around. Mind you I walk away from all the showers and parties knowing their lives are not perfect ... far from it ... and the other half of me says I want someone to argue with sometimes and in-laws to be irritated with.

        "This is disturbing at 34 to live this past and still be single, do NOT let this affect you anymore, you were young and he was wrong... He took without your permission..."
        I feel pathetic being described as disturbing. Yet I don't regret posting my story here. I don't know that this event effects me in a self blaming way perse, hence at the end of my story I state, with purpose, that I wonder if I have over corrected myself in the situation. I invested so much interest in self discovery and sex and being open about it that maybe I am missing how to generate or allow it to be something more personal and emotionally driven from the heart instead of my crotch.

        "In my opinion, you learnt to see sex as love as a result of the past .. "
        I do not feel I confuse sex with love. Quite the opposite actually. I feel like sex is sex and that is it ... a purely physical satisfaction. Sometimes I feel like I approach it just like men with their animal instincts. I have never come away from a situation where I've had sex with a man, longtime friend or not feeling more loved. Sex, on all but maybe 2 occasions in my life, have been about physical satisfaction.

        "But again got let down..... "
        On the heals of any sexual adventure I have never gone in thinking this is it, here comes some true love, there's no let down to speak of ... except if I never climaxed.

        "Sex was aggressive, yet, when you were submissive, he was probably tamer and you felt something for him, because all you want and wanted, and want is LOVE. So you felt passion within the aggression... Don't be confused over this for future, you thought you had a friend and this time, he would love you... The sex being incredible means you felt you found it and so gave and so, he was softer in the end, as well as aggressive which made you feel special, he enjoyed the sex, so you had to be great... and you were."

        In this particular event my friend and I had been drinking. Perhaps bored with the friendship he decided to take things to another place. Initially I was totally shocked - yet spent time considering the idea. When he first brought it up he wasn't so smooth about it and I actually was embaressed for him. Feeling awkward and sensing his awkwardness I tried to let him know it was ok and not to be embaressed. We didn't do it that night but I must say I've never wanted to so bad in my life - the signals my body gave me were unbelieveable. A few days later we made enough excuses to get together. When we did he seemed so determined. Part of me feels like he knew it was wrong and that it would effect the friendship in a bad way. I was consenting but apparently he had something to proove and functioned very aggressively. I submitted to the experience, not knowing what it would be like. The next day I was ridiculously sore and regretful. I told him all of this. The friendship fell apart and in a few months we reunited. Things remained casual and I got to experience some wonderful sex. I knew it wouldn't last forever, and it didn't which I was fine with. The friendship we once had could not be any more - I knew that. This particular situation is one where I still have the same sort of connection with men as friends - yet when attraction comes into the picture I freeze up and don't know how to mesh the two without getting totally casual about the sex - it's almost like no matter what sex will ruin any friendship I have and when you're trying to find your best friend, and make him your lover it's hard for me.

        Casual meaningless sex is all I know. It's almost like I only know the difference between sex and love. Perhaps nobody but the right man for me can show me the difference?

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        • nineonline
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 4

          "Don't let it turn into sexual quickly your ot nieve any more you intelligent, you can do this... Know that men are instintively, sexual that's all they are after, to win their love they need to get to know you, be rejected, over and over for a few dates and then as a result they get to knowyou, and as a result they like you, know they can't get you into bed and see you for you, so WANT A RELATIONSHIP"

          I'm starting to see the value in this approach. In the past I approached men with the attitude that if he's initiating sex so quickly that must be all he knows he wants. After all, from what I understand, don't men know within the first 5 minutes if they actually see themselves with you in the future? If so I always assumed he would be patient enough to let me initiate sex ... when I am ready. Another part of me asks myself if this guy wants to have sex at this particular momment in the relationship how deep is this person? If this is as deep as he gets then I guess he's not for me. If at that point I wanted to have sex I did ... knowing it was nothing more than sex. Perhaps giving too much control of the relationship to him? I know very well that sex doesn't change a mans mind when it comes to commitment ... which I guess is why after sex so early in a friendship/relationship I write the whole thing off and lose myself if physical satisfaction. i do know what I want in a man, I guess I just don't expect it from every man I meet. I believe there is only one for me to give my heart to ... which in these days seems more valuable than my body.

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          • nineonline
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 4

            "If so I always assumed he would be patient enough to let me initiate sex ... when I am ready."

            Re-reading this and having a bit of a giggle. "When I am ready" lol ... I have no clue how to go from friends to lovers and have the relationship stay in tact. I can't imagine myself approaching the idea with a man ... it's like it would never happen and I guess that's odd to me. If I had a check list what would be on it before I give it up in a healthy way I guess is something I should ask myself at this point.

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