[clumsygirl]

i swear what i am talking about is all truth, if i don' t know, i said" i don' t know" in my paper.

do you remember "Copernicus" theory :Earth-centered and Sun-centered. before he said that the sun is the center of universe, all people think earth is the center of universe.

History is not all right.

[ItsASecret]

No offense but what I gathered from your writing you are saying that women do not orgasm they only experience pleasure, there is no orgasm unless they ejaculate and every woman has the ability to, ejaculation is what must happen for it to be considered pleasurable for her, foreplay does not matter because sex is sex and does not have much else to it. There are many differences in opinion that people will have with this kind of material. Ejaculation from a woman really is not a cookie cutter response, it does have a variety of people that can and cannot do it. Those that do may not even consider it a big deal pleasure wise while others love it/

Basing things on your personal experience is not a bad thing, we all do it when each of us says that this or that works better than this or that. Each woman is different.

[asiangrace]

Hey Clumsygirl, why so defensive and angry? We are not saying that your paper is bad. It is an excellent, well-researched and very informative. However, we are just saying that not all your points in your paper are true just because you have experienced/non-experienced them. I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that I have definitely experienced an orgasm and even multiple orgasms. They were not just periods of pleasure. They were true orgasms.

Please do not call women "stupid" for believing anything but your information. Women are not stupid at all. Maybe women can get mis-informed due to so many orgasm theories out there. There seems to be a new theory out every other week! Your information, while some of it accurate and very knowledgeable, does not mean it rings true for EVERY SINGLE woman in the world.

And I agree with WildChild, that sex with love is very intense and very meaningful. Sometimes, yes, sex is just sex, but in a loving, committed relationship, sex is love and plays a big part in a relationship. The two elements cannot always be separated.

So, please know that we are not sitting here completely disregarding your entire paper. I do agree with a lot of it and the other stuff, well, it just did not apply to me. But thank you for sharing and please do not get so angry!

[Hopeless Dork]

I orgasm, I've orgasm'd from a very early age and continue to do so with great frequency. Sometimes I ejaculate, sometimes I don't... and the only thing that seems to be related to the times I ejaculate vs the times I don't is INTENSE gspot stimulation almost always leads to me squirting. But then... sometimes it doesn't... and sometimes I squirt when a finger isn't even inside of me when i orgasm so meh, who knows.

My squirts are low volume, they are like a teaspoon or so... they are clearish, whitish, they are neutral in taste, are the consistancy of lubricant... and I receive no more pleasure when it happens then when it doesn't happen... my orgasm is the same.

I'm not calling your paper rubbish, I think you have a very profound knowledge of your own body... but thats just it... its your study of your own body... You may very well not be experiencing orgasms , just waves of pleasure... who's to know? I know what my orgasm feels like... it follows the greatest most instense pleasure peak of my entire experience... i start to feel better and better and just when I hit a point that the pleasure is at its highest point... BOOM... explosion, spasms, twitches, tingling, throbbing -- in my vagina. Lightheaded euphoria... a feeling of satisfaction, I am no longer grinding away trying to reach something, i've obtained it... the spasms slowly subside... my vagina is sensitive... but oh yeah it can do it again lol.

But when I come, thats how i feel when i come, every time I come, whether I've ejaculated or not... to say women don't experience orgasm without ejaculation is to say that you don't experience orgasm without ejaculation, all female bodies vary with their pleasure...

some women feel no pleasure on their gspot, some only come from clitoral stimulation... and vice versa... while you know what you specifically like to feel for your own vagina... is in no way wrong, but is in now way what is the same for every other women.

Men are not all the same either. Some men like their testicles played with, some don't. Some squirt loads when they ejaculate, some just trickle and most men... do a little bit of both.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

All successful people in this World will be shot down, if you believe? Then get help on writing and go for it...No one can stop you on success if you believe...

As for your last post? I'm in two worlds on that as we also have young girls visiting this Forum........

No link granted.......but we'll leave that to the Operations Manager to decide, Little........

CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

https://www.womens-health.com/boards/sex/32264-please-come-i-have-problem-about-female-ejaculation-ask.html#post238377

I'd like to remind people that the OP came here asking how to get her thoughts across on this subject and it was suggested that she post it here.

OP, had you posted it on your initial thread, maybe views would be based on how to get it out there, your beliefs, thoughts. As it turned out, starting it in a new thread, resulted in debate.......

Please read the OP's initial thread linked above before posting....

CW

[WildChild]

I would point out that men do not have to ejaculate in order to orgasm, nor do they have to orgasm in order to ejaculate.

[Little]

This is not a peer-reviewed medical forum - and anything posted here should be seen as UNPROFESSIONAL OPINIONS and not medical certainty.
Thinking of what you've written as something other than an opinion will only cause strife on this forum - which we always try to avoid.
Clumsygirl, if you want your paper treated as scientific fact, you should post it somewhere that deals with scientific facts rather than the subjective exploration of human sexuality. The consensus we support here is that each person's sexual experience is unique, that each person can have (or be unable to have) orgasms, ejaculation, or even pleasure from sex, and that nobody should be belittled or made to feel that they are deluded for experiencing these things.
If you'd like to discuss your ideas and theories as subjective, you will be a great addition to the forum. If you can't do that, you should probably look into a different venue to discuss them.

[Guest]

10% of women have never had an orgasm

[WildChild]

10% of women have never had an orgasm

Actually the numbers I have seen are much higher.