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  • WaveRider
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 701

    amy40,

    I will NEVER date a black woman. You'd assuredly assume my elimination of black women is rooted in racism. The fact is it's based upon my desire to remain above ground and disease free.

    The following is from CDC. Is it fact or racism?


    "The HIV infection rate among black women is 20 times higher than for white women.

    One in six Americans between the ages of 14 and 49 have genital herpes and close to one in two black women are infected, new figures from the CDC reveal.

    About 19 million people in the U.S. are infected with HSV-2, at a cost to the nation’s health care system of close to $16 billion a year.

    Overall, 16% of Americans between the ages of 14 and 49 had genital herpes between 2005 and 2008, compared to 17% between 1999 and 2004.

    According to the latest findings:

    Women and African-Americans were the most likely to be infected. HSV-2 prevalence was nearly twice as high among women (21%) as men (11%), and more than three times higher among African-Americans (39%) than whites (12%).

    The infection rate among African-American women was 48%.

    The infection rate was roughly 4% among people who reported having just one sex partner ever, compared to almost 27% for those who reported 10 or more partners.
    Nearly four out of five people who have genital herpes have not been diagnosed and may not know they have the infection.
    Genital Herpes Raises HIV Risk

    "This latest analysis emphasizes that we can’t afford to be complacent about this infection," John M. Douglas, Jr., MD, who directs the CDC’s Division of STD Prevention, said in a news conference Tuesday at the 2010 National STD Prevention Conference in Atlanta.

    "It is important that we promote steps to prevent the spread of genital herpes, not only because herpes is a lifelong and incurable infection, but also because of the linkage between herpes and HIV infection."

    Research shows that people with genital herpes are two to three times more likely to acquire HIV and they are also more likely to transmit HIV infection to others.

    Douglas explained that the immunologic response at the site where herpes ulcers form act as a target for HIV infection even after the ulcers have disappeared.

    "If you come into contact with the HIV virus, even after the ulcers have healed, you may be more likely to become infected," he says.

    People who are dually infected with HIV and HSV-2 may also be especially likely to transmit the HIV virus to others during genital herpes flare-ups.

    Need for Increased Public Awareness

    The reason women have higher rates of HSV-2 infection than men is largely explained by the fact that their genital tissue is more vulnerable to the small tears that make transmission more likely.

    And since the background rate of infection is so high in the black community, African-American women are especially at risk, Douglas said.

    "It is quite clear that this increased rate of infection in African-American women is not due to increased risk behavior," he said.

    Women with HSV-2 may have no symptoms or they may mistake symptoms like genital burning and itching for a yeast infection.

    The CDC does not recommend routine screening for genital herpes, but testing is recommended for those considered at high risk for getting and transmitting the virus, including people with multiple sex partners. Testing is also recommended for gay and bisexual men and people who are HIV positive.

    While the infection cannot be cured, treatments that lessen the severity of genital herpes outbreaks or that may help prevent them are available.

    But since most people don’t even know they have the infection, treatment rates are low, says Kevin Fenton, MD, PhD, who directs the CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention.

    "Given everything we know about how to prevent, diagnose, and treat STDs, it is unacceptable that STDs remain such a widespread public health problem in the U.S. today," he says.

    Douglas said collaboration between public and private-sector groups will be needed to increase public awareness about genital herpes.

    He cited the "Get Yourself Tested" STD education campaign as an example. The campaign is directed at teens and young adults and is a partnership between the CDC, the television network MTV, and the philanthropic group Kaiser Family Foundation.

    "Public programs alone won’t be able to get the job done, particularly in light of the increasingly tight budgets that so many local and state health departments are facing," Douglas says. "We will need to be more creative in our collective approach to STD prevention."

    Nearly 50% of black women are infected with genital herpes. If two black women are sitting at a bar, probability is one has genital herpes. A dude would have to be whacked beyond medical help to assume such a risk. Is that racism or medical FACT?

    I could probably find medical research that has concluded a positive correlation between uncircumcision and HIV infection. But you could find it as well by doing a Google Medicine search.

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    • atskitty2
      Assistant Admin
      • Aug 2013
      • 4467

      This thread is about circumcised and uncircumcised. We've gone off the rails a couple times now, can we please stay on topic?

      If you would like to start another thread on additional topics, please do so.
      If the discussion of circumcision is exhausted let's end the thread and begin new.

      Waverider I think there's a political post active and if you'd like to start another discussion on racism or DV or others, have at it. There are older posts with these topics, you could revive or start new from the perspective you prefer to discuss.
      Carry on...

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      • jns
        Assistant Admin
        • Mar 2010
        • 8398

        Originally posted by Stillness
        You seem to run in some irrationally racist circles.
        This has led the conversation sideways. The woman who was the center of this comment is using race as a basis to reject men for dates so by definition she is racist. There is no basis that she is part of a group that thinks similarly nor that WaveRider is part of such a group. I can agree that her thinking is irrational as there are perfectly nice guys of every background that are circumcised and also those of every background who practice good hygiene. Her preference for circumcised guys is prejudiced by the results of her past encounters.
        I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
        ...
        Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

        From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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        • amy40
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 2732

          Originally posted by atskitty2
          This thread is about circumcised and uncircumcised.
          Carry on...
          guess I prefer husband

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          • amy40
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 2732

            curiouskate started this thread but didn't come back to conversation
            figures a one time poster gets a multiple posting thread!

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            • jns
              Assistant Admin
              • Mar 2010
              • 8398

              Originally posted by WaveRider
              After 9/11, I read an excellent article the thesis of which was the outcome of feminizing American men. Out of four planes, only four men on one plane fought back. "Men" on the other three planes were willing to allow women, children, and themselves to die without so much as a whimper. They were not real men. They were girly men.
              Previous hijackings of planes were generally not of the "take the flight down and we all die" type. In the 4th plane (flight 93), the passengers had actionable intelligence. Only one person, Barbara Olson, had such intelligence on flight 77 and probably was not able to communicate it to the other passengers who were herded to the back of the plane. Remember, it took CNN and CBS about 15 minutes after the second crash to conclude it was terrorism. I saw the second crash live and knew instantly that it was terrorism and that the USA was at war. Flight 93 passengers not only had the intelligence but had sufficient time and were left on their own to a degree so they organized a revolt. In general, the government had taught passengers to be passive in hijackings so as to have the greatest number of people survive.
              I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
              ...
              Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

              From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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              • cathygirl
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 108

                Originally posted by jns

                The woman who was the center of this comment is using race as a basis to reject men for dates so by definition she is racist.
                Racism is the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another. Preferring members of one race or another as more or less attractive as a romantic partner is far from racism. That, I believe, is quite normal. I think people need to be less reckless in hurling the label "racist" around.

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                • jns
                  Assistant Admin
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 8398

                  Originally posted by cathygirl

                  Racism is the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another. Preferring members of one race or another as more or less attractive as a romantic partner is far from racism. That, I believe, is quite normal. I think people need to be less reckless in hurling the label "racist" around.
                  She dated two "black dudes". She found them attractive enough to date. Attractiveness wasn't the reason for her preference. Their being uncircumcised was, but instead of swearing off dating intact guys, she instead swore off dating guys of a certain race. That is why I said that she was racist. BTW, a racist person can date and even marry someone of a race that they are racist against.
                  I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
                  ...
                  Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

                  From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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                  • WaveRider
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 701

                    Originally posted by jns

                    Previous hijackings of planes were generally not of the "take the flight down and we all die" type. In the 4th plane (flight 93), the passengers had actionable intelligence. Only one person, Barbara Olson, had such intelligence on flight 77 and probably was not able to communicate it to the other passengers who were herded to the back of the plane. Remember, it took CNN and CBS about 15 minutes after the second crash to conclude it was terrorism. I saw the second crash live and knew instantly that it was terrorism and that the USA was at war. Flight 93 passengers not only had the intelligence but had sufficient time and were left on their own to a degree so they organized a revolt. In general, the government had taught passengers to be passive in hijackings so as to have the greatest number of people survive.
                    Hi JNS,

                    We might never know what info passengers had. However, it is indisputable that the hijackers had deadly intentions, and not a "man" on any of the first three planes stood up to them. That response was conditioned and intended by social norms that have infiltrated American culture to its detriment. Of late, we've seen Black Lives Matter punks beating up white victims, one a decorated US Marine, and not a single person stepped up to help the victims. BTW, infliction of great bodily injury or attempt to inflict great bodily injury justifies use to deadly force. Even in gun-hating CA, people can use deadly force to prevent serious bodily injury to themselves or others.

                    There was no excuse for "men" on any of the first three airplanes, especially pilots, to meekly surrender their lives and lives of women and children. There is no credible defense for their inaction. None. If you can sell it to yourself, I'm good. But I ain't buying it.

                    Try a Google of, "Feminization of American men," and see what pops up. I have friends who are far more condemning of American culture by agenda-driven feminists calling it the "pussification" of American men.

                    The blame for inaction of men on the first three flights lies with feminists who despise the thought of American masculinity.

                    There is a 50 cent word (misogyny) for men who hate women. I know far more women who hate masculinity than men who hate women. Also, domestic violence in which women are suspects is grossly underreported. My guess is that were men to report their victimization by their wives, the numbers would approach equilibrium.

                    Gunphobia is another disease that is helping to destroy American culture society. Do Americans really believe that gun control will prevent a single crime? Can anyone prove that any gun control law has prevented any crime including murder. I could easily prove the converse, that denying law abiding Americans to protect themselves with guns have resulted in their murders. Americans become that gullible. They'll believe what they're told, facts be d-a-m-n-e-d.

                    I've read treatises authored by psychiatrists who have opined that people who have irrational fear of guns suffer mental illness. I have no fear of guns or law abiding people carrying handguns. I could care less whether the guy next to me in a grocery store has a .38 under his shirt. He isn't going to shoot me. It's the criminal with a gun whom I fear. But he'll never surrender his gun, which law prevents him from possessing. If a criminal is going to shoot me, I'd feel a whole lot better about dying were I able to fight back.

                    Criminals would love to see gun confiscation in America. Make every single gun illegal to possess, and criminals will be in hog heave. You'd have to be pretty darn naive to think that criminals would surrender their guns. That'll never happen. Criminals will always have guns. That's why they're criminals. Politicians who deny Americans their RIGHT to life by denying them ability to carry handguns for self-defense are despots who fear people with guns.

                    The destruction of American culture and society is by intent, not by random chance.

                    "When people fear their government, there is tyranny. When government fears its people, there is liberty."
                    ---Thomas Jefferson

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                    • WaveRider
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 701

                      Originally posted by cathygirl

                      Racism is the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another. Preferring members of one race or another as more or less attractive as a romantic partner is far from racism. That, I believe, is quite normal. I think people need to be less reckless in hurling the label "racist" around.
                      Hi cathygirl,

                      You're 100% right.

                      An Anglo woman who does not want to date black men out of preference is not racist. She merely does not prefer to date black men.

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