[Jade83]

Absoulutely not, pulling out does not work thats the reason I have a two year old. You better strap it up sweety!!!!!! The penis doesn't even have to be all the way in the vagina yet as a matter of fact. Be careful!!!!!!

[SinisterUrge]

Are condoms really that expensive these days?

[silvertae]

Theoretically pre-ejaculate doesn't contain sperm, but that's assuming several other factors. And then you have to rely on him being completely in control of his body... So, basically, I'd say relying solely on withdrawal is NOT a solid contraceptive plan.

[Uneeklyme]

Theoretically pre-ejaculate doesn't contain sperm, but that's assuming several other factors. And then you have to rely on him being completely in control of his body...

Pre cum... those little droplets that escape a man's penis from start to finish BEFORE he ejaculates... DO contain sperm. Not as much as a full on orgasm but hey, it only takes one lil swimmer and pre ejaculate has hundreds in it.

[silvertae]

Pre cum... those little droplets that escape a man's penis from start to finish BEFORE he ejaculates... DO contain sperm. Not as much as a full on orgasm but hey, it only takes one lil swimmer and pre ejaculate has hundreds in it.

No, it doesn't. Quoted from Wikipedia (not that Wiki is a reliable source, but the sources cited for these assertions come from seemingly reputable small studies):

"It has been suggested that the pre-ejaculate ("Cowper's fluid") emitted by the penis prior to ejaculation contains spermatozoa (sperm cells), which can easily pass into the upper female genital tract in the presence of cervical mucus. However, several small studies have failed to find any viable sperm in the fluid. While no large conclusive studies have been done, it is now believed the primary cause of method (correct-use) failure is the pre-ejaculate fluid picking up sperm from a previous ejaculation. For this reason, it is recommended that users of withdrawal have the male partner urinate between ejaculations, to clear the urethra of sperm, and wash any ejaculate from objects that might come near the woman's vulva (e.g. hands and penis)."

As this mentions (and as I hinted at) there are other factors that come into play. Sperm can remain in the urethra from a previous ejaculation so the man must ensure he urinates between sex sessions (and I honestly wouldn't count on that as being ENTIRELY effective and would likely wait a day or so before engaging in sex again). This is the reason I said "theoretically". So it's easy to see where the misconception comes from, but it seems the medical community is reasonably convinced that the fluid ITSELF does not contain sperm and any sperm that may be transmitted are the result of being in the urethra from a previous ejaculation.

I don't want to promote withdrawal as a good contraceptive method because of the vast margin for error, but one should still be educated about the facts.

[WildChild]

Good Grief! Go to Planned Parenthood or the county clinic. There are so many options, the pill in several forms, diaphrams, IUD, condoms (for him or you).They will discuss your lifestyle and needs and help you get the method that is best for you. If you aren't in a committed monogamous relationship you have no business having sex without using condoms, gloves, and dental dams.

Pulling out early takes part of the pleasure out of it anyway. I love the feel of a man ejaculating!

[Uneeklyme]

thats right... the cowpers gland does not produce sperm but somewhere from point a (cowpers gland) to point b (outside the penis) sperm is mixed into it somehow. If the testing is done on the fluid in the gland it wont contain sperm. It doesnt matter how or where it gets mixed, it just does and there are plenty of sperm in it to cause pregnancy.

also from wiki..

Precum is pre-ejaculatory semen. It is the fluid that ejaculates from a man before the "Big Bang" Although it is a small amount, you should always use protection because you can still get pregnant and contract STD's from it.

Pre-ejaculate may contain sperm. This is separate from ejaculation of course, but it is possible that it contains sperm, none the less. Just like urine will contain trace sperm also, especially early in the morning.

BE CAREFUL LADIES! Pre-cum may contain sperm from a previous ejaculation, so there is a chance of GETTING PREGNANT! Men don't always know it's going to happen, as they don't always feel it.

enough of a risk to not take a chance anyway. There are so many other birth control options

[silvertae]

It doesnt matter how or where it gets mixed, it just does and there are plenty of sperm in it to cause pregnancy.

Sorry, but I think it does matter, particularly if someone is seriously considering using withdrawal as their sole method of birth control. They need to know when and how sperm can be transmitted with precum, so they know how to employ the method correctly.

As I said, I wouldn't recommend it because even with perfect use the failure rate is higher than hormonal birth control or condoms. But these kinds of decisions shouldn't be made based on fear and misconceptions. They should be made by carefully examining the facts.

[Uneeklyme]

As I said, I wouldn't recommend it because even with perfect use the failure rate is higher than hormonal birth control or condoms. But these kinds of decisions shouldn't be made based on fear and misconceptions. They should be made by carefully examining the facts.

I agree. Fact is, pre cum has sperm in it. Maybe not every time but more often than not. It was my "fear and misconception" of it not containing sperm that helped me get pregnant at a very young age after he pulled out. I know for a fact he did not ejaculate early or mis judge his timing as he pulled out and finished himself off as I watched. Pretty factual information.

They have even found sperm in urine... seems the lil buggars have a pretty large roaming range.

[msfoxy03]

Well we have argued long enough. and i am choosing the condoms. I know it takes away the extra pleasure, but im sure we can make up for that somehow.