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  • KdVal
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1

    2nd IUD & still happy!

    Hi all!
    I am 47 and currently in my 8th year of my second IUD (I am not bi-polar, so can't speak to that part of the ?). The second IUD, since I kept my first until it had to come out, I had two children and then had another inserted. It has been the best birth control I've ever had. I am very sensitive to hormones and allergic to the nonoxynol-9 in the over-the-counter forms of BC (including condoms), so the Paragard is ideal. I have to say that the increase in bleeding has been more since having children than when I had my IUD before having children, thus I can't attribute it only to the IUD, but think it is more because of uterine changes of childbirth. Also, if one is going from HBC, which reduces flow, the increase would be greater than if it is following normal, unmedicated flow.

    I've never had any of the feelings you described, but I never was told to expect them either. If you are sensitive to suggestion, others may psych you into having these feelings, but you don't have to take it on! Only lack of sex-drive has been from lack of connection to my partner, nothing I can contribute to the IUD.

    The insertion is not that intense, although it pinches and cramps. From what I remember, cramps for the first couple months were a little more, then went back to pre-IUD levels. Removal is a little more uncomfortable, but again nothing compared to, say, a UTI. The convenience and affordability, even at 500, is well worth the price and momentary discomfort.

    If for some reason you find yourself with multiple partners in the future, just remember to use a condom, even if it's without the spermicide, to protect yourself from STD's !

    Good Luck!

    Originally posted by megzypants
    Hi, I'm new! I just have to shout it from the rooftops...

    It's been my experience that people who are unsatisfied with the outcome of something are much louder than people who are satisfied with the outcome of something. So, in an effort to balance out the bad press, here's my Paragard experience.

    I am 28, one pregnancy, married. I have struggled with different forms of HBC for the last 5-6 years. I've gained a collossal amount of weight, chronic yest infections, regular BV infections (never had the infection problem before HBC) my moodswings have gotten much worse and I am now officially someone with generalized anxiety disorder and severe depression. I hit bottom a couple of months ago when I felt suicidal for what seemed like no good reason. I've pill hopped..only to get spotting, severe stomach cramps during that time of the month, IBS, just a total nightmare. I'm fed up. And I'm married, so, using condoms or other barrier methods just don't seem to make sense to me.

    I made the decision to get Paragard about a month and a half ago. I went to PLanned Parenthood and they operate on sliding scale in my state. Paragard cost me nothing except a nominal donation. I went in for my consultation and I had plenty of questions for her, all of which she answered to my satisfaction. She seemed very confident that I was an ideal candidate for this form of BC. She explained to call for my insertion when my next period started and they would get me in in the 7 day window. She also recommended that I take 400-800 mg of ibuprofen before I went in. I was all set.

    3 weeks later, my p came. I called, they fit me in (close call though as it was a holiday weekend!) right on the 6th day of my cycle. I took 800mg of ibuprofen (hey I'm a sissy) and went in first thing in the morning. They ran some tests (hemoglobin, pregnancy, STD) all which came out just fine. Time for insertion. The experience was much like going in for a pap. Undress from the waist down, here's your sheet, sit on the edge of the table. She inserted the speculum (fun), then clamped my cervix (even more fun. I'm warning you, this doesn't feel "good" by any means. It's uncomfortable) then she sounded me. The sounding was akin to having someone tugging on your intestines. It was very uncomfortable and didn't feel good. I had to take deep breaths and wiggle my toes to keep myself from squealing and squirming. That was over with pretty quickly. She inserted the paraguard applicator, I felt a very quick sharp pinch and some deep cramping. Then she took everything out, told me to get dressed and that was it. I don't mean to downplay the uncomfortableness of this, but if you can get pierced or tattooed, I think you could handle this.

    I asked her when i could have sex again and she told me 7 days. I guess this is for a number of reasons. You are at a high risk of infection during this time because the ob/gyn or NP performing this basically swabs out all of the "good stuff" in there. Give your ladyparts time to repopulate their little friends. Also, your cervix will probably be very tender and sensitive from the trauma of this procedure. Also, you could quite possibly bleed. Paragard supposedly works right away, but they gave me condoms to use in case I HAD to have sex in this 7 day window just in case. Yeah, no way was that happening. I bled (kind of like a light period, spotting with a heavier day or two) for approximately 5 days following insertion. Mostly on and off and nothing that a pantyliner or thin pad couldn't handle. I felt deep cramps, although not severe enough to double me over or make me clutch my tummy. They feel more like when you do 100 situps (except lower) along with some back pain and gas (I think your abs get super active from doing all of that tensing up). Today is day 6, no bleeding, cramps are pretty much gone so I would say her 7 day window is pretty accurate. If you're considering having this done, give yourself at least a week to fully recover. Yes other women have easier experiences, but I would consider myself to be "average". I have taken a regimen of ibuprofen and vitamin E daily...2 ibuprofen in the morning with a 400 mg vitamin E softgel. That really seemed to help stop the bleeding and help with the cramps during the course of the week.

    Now, I am excited to "test drive" my copper buddy (which I have nicknamed Trixie..hahah) but will give myself another day or two to finish healing and letting my lower abs relax. They really didn't like something being shoved in there! I haven't gotten my first period with paragard yet, but I am seeing a trend with other ladies who have it. Women who have had difficulties with their cycle, like heavu bleeding, spotting, heavy cramps...will probably have issues with paragard. My p was always pretty "easy", so a few more cramps and a heavier flow hopefully won't bother me too much. Also, I notice, a lot of women who have extreme issues the first few weeks on paragard are coming off years of HBC...which naturally screws up your normal cycle.

    As of today, it's smooth sailing. If you are having issues on HBC and are allergic to latex or don't wish to use barriers, I would recommend the copper IUD. I guess women who have issues with their cycles do pretty well on mirena, but it wasn't an option for me since I have issues with the hormones. Again getting the IUD wasn't a pleasant or fun experience, but I think a week off is a small price to pay for 10 years of protection! I would suggest having someone drive you home and if you have someone at home to take care of you, get that lined up too. Treat yourself as if you are off sick for a day or two. Some women can return to their regular activities right away, but hey, why not milk it, right? I also found getting up and walking aorund after the first day really helped with the back pain and cramping. Good luck ladies, and I hope this helped anyone who is considering this form of BC.

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    • MrsTorlain
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 2

      I wanted to post my experience so hopefully someone could see some positive feeback (just like all of you). I did my reaserchand after getting pregnant on the pill I wanted to ensure it didn't happen again.

      I am 25 and engaged. I have used birth control since I was 16 and never had a problem until about 6 months ago when I found out I was pregnant. I was one of those 1% that got pregnant on the pill. We were not ready for the pregnany (hence the borth control) and decided to have an abortion. Afterwards by doctor recommended an IUD as a more effective form of BC, but I wanted to wait, recover and do my research. Since tehn I went back on birth control pills after trying Nuvaring for a day and not being happy with it. Birth Control failed me and each month I was waiting, starring at the toilet and talking to my stomach saying..."Please start!" Before I never worried about it but now was stressed each month. So after researching and talking to friends I decided to try it. My three concerns are/were:
      1. That my partner could feel it (the strings)
      2. The heavy periods (according to reviews)
      3. That it couls get dislodged
      Bringing these all up with my physician she said she is very pro Paragard and thought I would be an excellent canidate. She also brought up the fact that it is more effective than the pill and the copper gives you a double line of defense against fertilization occuring. She als addressed the heavy periods and the string issues, saying the strings should soften a little as they are in longer and has never had a problem with any other patientsfeeling them during intercourse and tht the period heaviness is usually the same as before (ie if you had really bad periods before you most likely continue to remain the same). Personally my periods have always been irregular and was one of the reasons I went on the pill to begin with.

      So far I would say my experience has been normal. The visit was similar to a pap appointment. I took to aspirin before, after reading others advice. When she measured my uterus I felt a good cramp! I am not crampy normally, so this was a 6 on my scale, but tolerable. She placed the Paragard and I felt another cramp, around a 7, and it was done. I am on my period and she said I should have spotting for the remiander of the day and to not have sex for 5-7 days. She also mentioned the only cases she has seen where people dislodge their IUDs or they come out are those people that have intercourse or use tampons in the first week of insertion, so I'm sticking to Drs orders!

      I had the procedure at 8:00am. It's now 1pm and I have had only mild spotting as she said, still on the same thin Maxi pad, and mild cramping on and off. Just took another aspirin to calm everything down, but so far I think I am having atextbook first day. I will keep posting over the next couple days, weeks and months to hopefully keep spreading the positive word about Paragard!

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      • MrsTorlain
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2

        Just updating my post!!

        I got Paragard placed on Thursday of last week. It's Monday (day 5) and things are still going GREAT!! I had cramping the first day (typical to normal period cramps) but they continued to fade into the evening of the second day and then stopped all together. I wore a regular maxi pad through the week and continued to spot. Very light spotting, one pad for the whole day. I switched to a panty liner this morning and have a little light spotting but that's what the liner is for.

        I felt for the strings after the 4th day, making sure I had time to heal. I tried in the shower first and was discouraged when I couldn't locate them. After some paniked reading I learned the best way is to sit down and try. After doing this I was able to feel the tiny ends right around my cervix (feels like the end of a pear but more rubbery). They felt like tiny fishing lines. I will check again in 3 days to make sure everything is in place and should be back to 100% after day 7!

        Still loving Paragard!

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        • Kamy2007
          Junior Member
          • May 2013
          • 1

          Hey everyone!
          I too have read awful reviews of Paragard, however I'm guessing that most people that review have had negative experiences. I got my Paragard two days ago and it's been pretty smooth so far. I actually forgot to take ibuprofen that day and the insertion was still okay. Although, When going in to get Paragard make sure you EAT first. It was a crazy day the day I got it so by the time of my appointment I'd barely eaten a thing. As a result I got dizzy and very pale and sweaty after, luckily my boyfriend was out in the waiting room with an oreo mcflurry for me which perked me right up. I did have a bit of cramps the next few days, long showers and baths seemed to ease it. I'm doing great now, still a little tender and crampy, but not even as bad as a period. It's only been a few days so ill keep my thread updated for any changes!

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          • ldybg610
            Junior Member
            • May 2013
            • 1

            I'm also new here, and trying to decide if paragard is right for me. I'll be 28 in 2 weeks, and never been on HBC. I just had my second baby 4 weeks ago so of course they want to know about contraceptives at my 6 week apt. I'm leaning towards paragard because it is non hormonal. I'm just afraid what the hormones would do to me (I tend to be naturally very sensitive homone wise). My hubby and I have always used condoms and never had scares, only conceiving when wanted. I'm against getting my tubes tied. I think I've convinced him to get snipped, but I don't know if I wanna go that route right away. I thought about the IUD for 5 yrs, and if by that time we hadn't lost our minds and decided to have another baby, then he would get snipped. I'm just really worried of course about heavier periods. I was never regular until after my first pregnancy, but I've always been heavy usually with cramping the first couple days. My gyno told me that every woman she's done paragard on has gotten heavier flow. One woman, even after being warned, still got it in. Only to come back 6 months later to have it removed because it was so bad. I just hate that it basically comes down to weather or not I wanna deal with a worse period. I really don't want to end up having to get it removed later because its so bad. Anyone with already heavy periods have any experience? I noticed the girls that had experience said theirs were generally light already.

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            • Bmode
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 1

              After much deliberation between Paraguard and Mirena, this morning I officially had Paraguard implanted! I wanted to share my experience and keep updated because before going in I had read so many horror stories about both IUD versions that I had essentially talked myself out of it! After meeting with my doctor and answering my millions of questions, we decided Paraguard was the better option because I do not respond well to the hormones in most birth control methods. I had the implant inserted this morning, I'm 27 and have never had children so she said the insertion may be a little intense for me because my cervix and uterus has essentially never been dilated. The insertion was intense just two short sessions of intense cramping, but then it was over! I honestly would not recommend this if I thought the procedure was unbearable, but it was not and it is over so quickly, so worth it. I was up and getting dressed within a few minutes! I have had cramping since the procedure but 800mg of ibuprofen has caused a major improvement. I'm having some light spotting now as the day goes on but nothing a pantiliner can't handle! My fear is the heavier periods but I've never had bad periods anyway so I will keep posted for everyone in a few days and when I start getting periods! I just wanted to share, after all the horror stories I read, my good experience so far!

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              • Keesh2012
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1

                Today I had the Para guard inserted! I was quite nervous beforehand and I wish I would've expected more and read more feedback on personal experiences before going to get it because I would've known to take some medicine before my doctor appointment. It would have helped ALOT !!! I think it was so painful for the insertion because I'm only 20 years old and have had no children. The main pain I had were the cramps as the doctor was putting it in and I felt like everything was being stretched but it only took a split second for them to do it. I will add that I was very nauseous afterwards and I wish I would've had someone to drive me home but as soon as I made it home I went to change my pad from the spotting it caused, I put on some loose clothing, took 800 mg of ibuprofen, and got in bed with my heating pad. I also might add that the doctor said its a great idea to be on your period because it allows the cervix to open more. The only thing I regret is not taking pain medicine before the procedure but I don't regret getting the para guard so far... I'll see how it goes! This is only day 1. And I'm glad the para guard has no hormones and last 10 years! Oh and I don't know if it's just me but it tricks my body into thinking I need to go number 2 a lot when I really don't so I have to force myself to go... One good hint is to keep some pain meds by your side for the first week at all times!

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                • LadyGodiva
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 2

                  So far, so good

                  I had a paraguard inserted 3 weeks ago. I'm 29 years old, never been married or pregnant. The pills to soften my cervix made my abdomen very, very sore and it was painful to walk to the subway to get to the doctor's office. (I live in a city and walk everywhere, so that was uncomfortable.) The insertion REALLY hurt but the pain wasn't as bad as an ovarian cyst that I had last year. I did have to take a cab back to my apartment rather than the subway -- and I felt like I was going to vomit from pain during the car ride. I went home, took ibuprofen, and fell asleep. When I woke up, I felt fine! I felt normal for the next couple of days and then cramped tremendously on day 3 or 4 (which I attributed to being dehydrated.) Ever since then, I've hardly noticed it. I still get a crampy pang every now and then -- I guess when my cervix shifts position -- but nothing to scream about. I have not started my period yet since having the paraguard inserted, so we'll see how that goes. So far, so good!

                  FYI, I am not in a relationship right now and have not had sex since the insertion, so can't comment on that either. (I decided to "go for it" upon realizing that my current insurance plan would pay for 100% of it. I got tired of yo-yo-ing between birth control methods after every new relationship.) Oddly, it showed up on a full-body airport scanner a couple of weeks ago when I was traveling -- but only for the scanner on the return trip, not the departure. (Anyone else had problems with that?)

                  As a side note, I am proud that this is the FIRST birth control that I've used that was entirely my decision (no annoying boyfriend whining for me to get on a pill that makes me sick and crazy). So far, it has been the best birth control that I've ever had. And THE MOST cost effective.

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                  • LadyGodiva
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2

                    Hi I am updating my post after experiencing quite a few unpleasant symptoms over the past few weeks that I'm now realizing are probably related to the iud. I can deal with heavy periods and cramping but these go well beyond that. After reading up on my symptoms I've come to the conclusion that I have some degree of copper toxicity. I want this copper stick OUT of my body!! Since having it, I've experienced the following:

                    -grand mal seizure (I have no history of seizures) about 10 days after insertion. Required hospitalization.
                    -headaches (no history of headaches)
                    - insomnia
                    - night sweats / increased body temp during day
                    - severe depression
                    - anxiety
                    - severe pms (no previous history)
                    - sore breasts
                    - lighter period, oddly enough
                    - abdominal cramps (expected)
                    - cravings for certain foods ( coffee, avocados, chocolate)
                    - moodiness
                    - mental fog / forgetfulness
                    - dry mouth
                    - increased breakouts and skin problems


                    This thing sucks. I want it out!

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                    • Angela1103
                      Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 13

                      I think I would totally go for the Paraguard if it weren't for my extensive experience with horrifying cramps. I have been taking a calcium supplement for a while now, though, so I haven't had cramps like that in a while. Still, I'm not sure if the calcium would help against cramps caused by Paraguard.

                      I want to go to the gyno soon to see if they will give me the Skyla IUD. I just hope my insurance covers it. I'm also worried that I might have to take off of work, which is something I never do unless there is a dire emergency.

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