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  • gu666ud
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 3

    my wife prefers jumping on me while I help her masturbating, but not intercourse

    Background:

    We have been married for more than 3 years now. Both were virgin before the marriage and did not have any education/former experience on sex. Even though I watched porn couple of times, my wife never watched it, and she has almost no idea how it is. The reason of stating porn is to give an idea about the amount of information related to sex we have.

    Problem we are facing:

    My wife experiences pain when we try for intercourse (I am using this term to specifically mention about what aspect of sex I am talking about). Overtime, my wife thinks the pain is subsiding. For the last 3 years, we tried for intercourse not much (maybe one or two times per month). This is highly unusual for a new couple. However, my wife thinks this is normal compared to her background. My wife tries to compensate this by doing this: she wants me to touch her, and arouse her by helping her masturbate, and in the process she gets on top of me, and she has some kind of orgasm. She likes this process, but she does not like to do anything else, such as finding a way to arouse me while I am helping her masturbate, etc. In fact, she likes this whole process so much that she wants to do it at least 2 or 3 times a week. However, whenever I propose her to do intercourse, she most of times mentions that she is not interested due to the pain. I proposed her to use lubricant, but she does not want it, because it is not healthy. To get around this, couple of days ago, I tried using water, and it works (kind of), but now she says that she feels guilty of having such feeling, when we do intercourse (according to her, this is animal instinct). I tried to tell her that this is part of relationship between husband and wife, but she is not that much convinced on that. Instead, she thinks that I have lost interest in her body other than the sexual intercourse thing, and so I don't like her way of enjoying (helping her masturbate).

    Consequence:

    I mentioned her couple of times about the way I feel about this (to have more concentration on intercourse and do everything while doing intercourse, such as physical intimacy, helping her masturbate), but she does not like it. Last night, she just wanted to do it her way, and I did not want to do that, she mentioned to me that the consequence of rejecting her this way repeatedly may be bad (e.g., separation).

    What should I do?

    Your sensible suggestions will be very appreciated.
  • lizzardb63
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1493

    It sounds to me like she is being completely selfish. She needs to meet your needs too. I can understand sex being painful, but why can't she please you while you help her please herself? Perhaps she should talk to a doctor or counselor to sort through her feelings towards sexual intercourse. Lube is not unhealthy, in fact, it is very important to stay lubricated during sex, or you could risk getting infections from tiny tears in the vagina. I feel she needs to be more attentive to you, because it sounds like you've done quite enough for her over the years.

    She should not threaten you when she doesn't get her way on this. It is selfish, and I can understand how you would feel the way you do.

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    • gu666ud
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 3

      thanks for the suggestion

      Thanks lizzardb63 for the suggestion. Appreciated.

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      • oxy-moron
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 551

        Hi
        You both got into a bit of a rut. She wants to go left and you want to go right and so you are both stuck in the middle.
        You could try incorporating massage before sex. Gentle stroking type massage using the full surface of your hands with body butter or massage oil. You probably need 20 minutes of this. This will help with the lubrication and probably make her more receptive.

        Try to negotiate something a bit half way- like you rubbing the head of your penis on her clit and labia as a form of mutual masturbation. But take your time and do research on the internet. If you are doing the same thing over and over you are not going to improve things.



        Good luck.

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        • CHANDLERS WISH
          • Mar 2008
          • 22440

          Ouch, selfishness coupled with ultimatives?

          It sounds to me that she has a real problem with intercourse, not due to pain but rather due to her mental picture of the meaning of it, animal instinct...

          Can I asked if this was an arranged marriage? It just seems to me that she is okay with masterbation and you playing a role in that but not in her touching you, and not in having intercourse and then providing an ultimative....

          She mentions that you don't like her "body" rather just want to do the wild thing Do you tell her you like her body? Do you hold hands, kiss, tell us a little bit more about your actual marriage.
          PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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          • gu666ud
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 3

            CHANDLERS WISH: Arranged, not really (half affair). I always mention to her that I like her great body, which indeed, she has. Of all the times we tried for intercourse, I was never allowed to do it more than 10 minutes. According to her, I should be done with the intercourse within 10 minutes.

            I suggested her that we can go to a doctor or a councilor for advice couple of times in the past. However, according to her, we don't need to, because we can get all the advice from internet. The funny thing about her is that she has a preset self-generated idea about a thing and she keeps looking at the internet until she finds that idea being uttered by someone, even though some others may be having different opinions.

            oxy-moron: thanks for the advice.

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            • PinkySweet
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 168

              Hm. Shes being really selfish... Have you every asked her to touch you, while your touching her? Lube is perfectly safe! I recommend water based lube...

              As far as Animal instinct, Humans are mammals, and alot of animals are mammals... So I would think its perfectly fine for use to have a animal instinct. Have you told her that you feel like shes being selfish? Also, that not every man can finish in 10 minutes?

              It seems like she thinks about sexual activity more as a business type thing, instead of a enjoyable, loving and bounding type thing.

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              • demotivator
                Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 41

                The key word is therapy. Her sexuality has been messed up by someone or something long ago. Although, therapy is not a short process, so you will have to be very patient and hold on for a year or two.

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                • kennethmiller12
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 3

                  Please give her time to overcome from the pain during intercourse and try to discuss with her and give more knowledge about the orgasm and be happy.

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                  • Quiet Soul
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 5

                    She is most likely feeling pain because she's not fully relaxed or excited, or has some sort of a mental block about everything.. I'm going with the mental block since she felt guilty about how she felt with you the last time. (the animal instinct)

                    Normally I would suggest tons of foreplay but it seems like she gets that when she jumps on top of you and you touch her.
                    .
                    I would try asking her while she's on you if she can try doing stuff to you.. but start out slowly with things like asking her just to touch your penis a little bit and leave it at that. Then next time get her to touch it for longer or rub it and see how she reacts.

                    It sounds like she isn't even trying to meet you halfway. She doesn't want to use lube but is ok with water, but finds this "animal instinct" to not be right but it's ok for her to jump on you and masturbate, which is essentially the same thing save for the fact that you don't get any pleasure from this.

                    How would she feel about you doing what she's been doing? Or how would she react if you started masturbating while she was on top of you?

                    More than anything I would recommend talking about all of this with her and possibly having her talk with a therapist (either by herself or with you). She could even sign up to talk to an online e-counselor) as it sounds like she is dealing with a lot of guilt over something that by now should not be hurting her that much and should feel a bit more natural and enjoyable.

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