[suntan]

I wonder often why people want an orgy. Aren't they satisfied with a single person? I have often seen some pornographic stuff in which a single man has several women to have sex with and of course this makes one hot instantly and yet I feel there will be no love. Desires are likely to propel to an endless extent and yet when there will be threesome or more in the act of lovemaking intimacy disappears and we cannot feel intimacy with several persons at the same time. It is almost impossible. Yet I wonder why some people want to have an orgy and after the act they will lose intimacy with their associates. I think that is why most marriages fail since they never want to root themselves in some intimate relationships and they want to go beyond.

I am just interested to discuss this and what I said above is out of my limited knowledge and you may have more to say and share

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Free spirit.

An understanding of commitment is often still there, yet an understanding of wanting to try other people is also there, if it is mutual then that's a choice.

Marriages don't fail from orgies or partner swapping, or foursomes or watching someone with your partner if that is their choice and there is a clear understanding.

You are talking about "cheating" where one person is un-aware of the other, sleeping around or with someone else.. That is totally different.. There marriages do fail..

they never want to root themselves in some intimate relationships and they want to go beyond.

Together?

Love can still be had with partners that want to share experiences.

There are different people in this world.

Like I said, you are talking 'CHEATING'

CW

[suntan]

Free spirit.

An understanding of commitment is often still there, yet an understanding of wanting to try other people is also there, if it is mutual then that's a choice.

Marriages don't fail from orgies or partner swapping, or foursomes or watching someone with your partner if that is their choice and there is a clear understanding.

You are talking about "cheating" where one person is un-aware of the other, sleeping around or with someone else.. That is totally different.. There marriages do fail..



Together?

Love can still be had with partners that want to share experiences.

There are different people in this world.

Like I said, you are talking 'CHEATING'

CW

I simply wonder if there are things like swapping partners. I have never heard about it> Does it really happen with understanding and that do people enjoy watching somebody have sex with his or her spouse? I just want to know a little bit about them and can I have any access to such knowledge? It is really interesting, something very strange I have never thought about the possibility

[LilahX]

I hope I can shed some light on this for you. I am in a long-term relationship and we are swingers so we often have sex with other couples. I also help run a gangbang party where couples attend for the women to have sex with multiple men - say 5 couples and 25 guys. Some brief points that will hopefully help you understand this lifestyle :

1. Swingers are in emotionally committed relationships - but we don't deny the natural human instinct to be sexually attracted to other people. This does not diminish our love for each other. That we can honestly admit this attraction in fact brings us closer together.

2. We enjoy seeing our partners have sex with others, seeing their pleasure - butour greatest pleasure is still the sex we have when we're alone with each other. There is no jealousy because there is no insecurity nor feelings of possession. There is no dishonesty or pretense that we find others attractive. We can explore it together rather than sneaking around as so many others do.

3. Altho we may form friendships with the people we have sex with, an 'emotional connection' is not necessary for us to enjoy a physical relationship with them. However, there can indeed be a feeling of intimacy if there is a good connection. While our get togethers are about sex, they very often also include good conversation and lots of humour. It's sex, not romance.

Swinging is everywhere and for those couples who can approach it with honestly and trust it brings a new level of intimacy and excitement to the relationship. I hope that helps a bit.

[suntan]

I hope I can shed some light on this for you. I am in a long-term relationship and we are swingers so we often have sex with other couples. I also help run a gangbang party where couples attend for the women to have sex with multiple men - say 5 couples and 25 guys. Some brief points that will hopefully help you understand this lifestyle :

1. Swingers are in emotionally committed relationships - but we don't deny the natural human instinct to be sexually attracted to other people. This does not diminish our love for each other. That we can honestly admit this attraction in fact brings us closer together.

2. We enjoy seeing our partners have sex with others, seeing their pleasure - butour greatest pleasure is still the sex we have when we're alone with each other. There is no jealousy because there is no insecurity nor feelings of possession. There is no dishonesty or pretense that we find others attractive. We can explore it together rather than sneaking around as so many others do.

3. Altho we may form friendships with the people we have sex with, an 'emotional connection' is not necessary for us to enjoy a physical relationship with them. However, there can indeed be a feeling of intimacy if there is a good connection. While our get togethers are about sex, they very often also include good conversation and lots of humour. It's sex, not romance.

Swinging is everywhere and for those couples who can approach it with honestly and trust it brings a new level of intimacy and excitement to the relationship. I hope that helps a bit.

Your post has been one of the greatest revelations to me in life and I have never seen anyone ever talking so daringly, earnestly without deception and how beautifully you have put two aspects asunder emotional intimacy and sex. I can understand the essence of your thought since I come from a world where sex and emotional / personal intimacy have not been taken along the same line. I like this idea of swinging to satiate the immediate urge popping inside us and yet to maintain an excellent relationship. emotional, spiritual with the one we can privately be tied with. In fact I often feel lost, with muddled thoughts and your liberal thought has opened my eyes to the realities my mind never could never awakened to


I have a thousand and one questions to ask you and this conversation has some significance to me and stands as a pathfinder when I am lost in a labyrinth of thoughts.