about the been wanting to do it for a while i can see why you'd think that but if its something she adamantly said "no" to then i wouldn't even be talking about it. the last thing I'd want to do is force her into an uncomfortable situation that she didn't want to do. the reason she flip flops on the issue, i believe, is because she's a human being. we change our minds fairly often. she's one of those, not unlike myself, who changes their mind as the wind blows. as I've said she's never said flat out "no" but there are times when she's intrigued by the idea there are times that she's not in the mood. once again, she is a human being. just trying to get someone to sketch out a scenario that happened to them or that they happened to have enjoyed. maybe some "do's" or "donts" based on some experience.
i think that you don't give us guys enough credit. if i was a kind of jerk guy that you likened to a dog i would have got her drunk and made it happen already but i haven't. instead i've elected to have an open dialogue about it in an effort to become more enlightened about the issue rather than force a scenario.
thanks for the feedback.
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