[inquisitive1]

I appreciate your concern - thank you. No, I won't really kill myself - that would be far more hostile to my wife than divorcing her, which I won't do either. I am going to try to figure out how to bring up counseling - but I don't have high hopes.

Hello rcoreyus-

Good....very good! I am pleased to hear you say that! I just needed to know you are okay.

As far as suggesting counseling with your wife....I do not know her so it would be difficult for me to say what would be the best way to approach her. Perhaps just coming straight out with it will work. I know when I really need to grab someone's attention.....a person that otherwise may not respond to the sincerity or severity of the message that I need to convey to them.....I simply write them a note or memo. Four simple words that always command attention "we need to talk". This works for me, perhaps it will for you as well. Another suggestion is if you have not already tried this, put it in writing. Take your time, choose your words wisely, expose all your heart's deepest rawest offerings, no matter what they are, and then put pen to paper. Quite often a person will absorb this in ways that they do not respond to verbally. The goal is to get the dialogue open....in a positive direction. P.S. Confusedman....if you are still out there I would extend this to you as well.

[Confusedman]

tried it.

Hello rcoreyus-

Good....very good! I am pleased to hear you say that! I just needed to know you are okay.

As far as suggesting counseling with your wife....I do not know her so it would be difficult for me to say what would be the best way to approach her. Perhaps just coming straight out with it will work. I know when I really need to grab someone's attention.....a person that otherwise may not respond to the sincerity or severity of the message that I need to convey to them.....I simply write them a note or memo. Four simple words that always command attention "we need to talk". This works for me, perhaps it will for you as well. Another suggestion is if you have not already tried this, put it in writing. Take your time, choose your words wisely, expose all your heart's deepest rawest offerings, no matter what they are, and then put pen to paper. Quite often a person will absorb this in ways that they do not respond to verbally. The goal is to get the dialogue open....in a positive direction. P.S. Confusedman....if you are still out there I would extend this to you as well.

Thanks for the repsonse yes ive tried the note, then the letter, then a novel(30pages) councilling idea. even tried writing journals where each day we write a thought then we would read it near the end of the day.