[bubba29]

Watch out - if she comes all the way out you may be in for a pounding.

It's interesting how many women are shy about all kinds of sexual things but seem to embrace them once they let go of the insecurities. From anal play to pegging and everything in between ....closet freaks everywhere!

she does have some insecurities and she knows it. i appreciate she tries to overcome them. don't get me wrong though, we have a great time. i just am just much more kinky than her. she is doing her best to keep up.

[Something_Awesome]

I'm not certain about this but there does seem to be a tendency for the fantasizing guy to be personally 'inferior' in some way or other - skinny, out of shape, smaller penis, little stamina, etc., as opposed to the stand in who's more often superior in all those things. (BF wouldn't really qualify under those conditions as he's larger with good stamina and in good shape, etc.) So ....low self esteem manifesting as some sort of self-fulfilling self-loathing prophecy/fantasy? "I suck so I don't deserve a faithful woman, in fact I deserve to be cheated on openly and unapologetically" and so on? Inferiority complex? I'm reaching here and out of my depth but I wonder.

It's a combination of her being hyper sexual (turn on) and her husband/bf vicariously enjoying sex with his wife/gf through the "superior" guy. Sleeping with another man sexualizes her, and her enjoying sex more because the new guy is "better just adds to it." I also think the guys that enjoy this will tend to be sexually submissive. I'd also say that there are more men who probably have this fantasy that won't admit to it than there are men that do admit to it. Jen, I would say that your BF may fit the profile and that he just won't admit it. Could be wrong though.

I don't have this fantasy, but I get it. It has a type of parallel to when my GF wanted to use her brand new sex toy on herself while I watched via facetime. Or when she uses it in front of me and just wants me to watch. It's a turn on. I personally can say that I do not have the cuckold (stupid word) fantasy, but I get it. I don't fantasize about her making me watch her use Iris (the sex toy) on herself either, but it's still hot when she makes me watch.

[effy2014]

It's interesting how many women are shy about all kinds of sexual things but seem to embrace them once they let go of the insecurities. From anal play to pegging and everything in between ....closet freaks everywhere!

I can only assume that your house has no closets at all . . . clothes scattered all over the floor.

[jen1447]

Oh you better believe it ....no stone left unturned in my world.

Something, interesting connection to voyeurism type kink, hadn't thought of that. There may also be a connection with the 'making/forcing' thing - the power is out of the submissive guy's hands and he has no choice but to do what she wants or watch her doing what she wants. But why would the guy vicariously enjoy her sexuality (when he could have it all to himself I assume), and why is the superiority of the 'bull' so important? Those things still seem kinda unanswered.

Oh and I hate the sound of "cuckold" too. I think if it had a cooler name I'd talk about it a lot more. (I've heard "hot wife" used for the women ....that sound silly too but it's not as bad as cuckold.)

Oh p.s. - I'm pretty sure BF is not that way (99%). I read people well and we have no secrets. I guess there's always a narrow possibility tho. Maybe I'll ask him outright or just threaten to beat the truth out of him.

[bubba29]

Oh you better believe it ....no stone left unturned in my world.

Something, interesting connection to voyeurism type kink, hadn't thought of that. There may also be a connection with the 'making/forcing' thing - the power is out of the submissive guy's hands and he has no choice but to do what she wants or watch her doing what she wants. But why would the guy vicariously enjoy her sexuality (when he could have it all to himself I assume), and why is the superiority of the 'bull' so important? Those things still seem kinda unanswered.

Oh and I hate the sound of "cuckold" too. I think if it had a cooler name I'd talk about it a lot more. (I've heard "hot wife" used for the women ....that sound silly too but it's not as bad as cuckold.)

Oh p.s. - I'm pretty sure BF is not that way (99%). I read people well and we have no secrets. I guess there's always a narrow possibility tho. Maybe I'll ask him outright or just threaten to beat the truth out of him.

although i am into the idea of watching my wife with another man, i am not into many of the ideas that go with cuckolding. i am not into being humiliated or dominated. i also am not into sucking the bull's cum out of my wife's VJay.

[jen1447]

You sure? You kind of sound like you are.

[effy2014]

Oh p.s. - I'm pretty sure BF is not that way (99%). I read people well and we have no secrets. I guess there's always a narrow possibility tho. Maybe I'll ask him outright or just threaten to beat the truth out of him.

I think BF has to be one of the most confident alpha males on the planet. I doubt a weak man would hold Jen's attention for very long. I wouldn't mistake his willingness to please Jen in any way she wants as a weakness -- he just feels incredibly fortunate to have her. We should all feel the same way about our partners. I do mine.

[Valleyball]

I enjoy MFM play very much. I enjoy being the center of sexual attention. I've been marked for 21 yrs. we are very happy together and these things keep our sexual relationship very fun and fresh, which isn't common after 20+ yrs of marriage, two kids, yada, yada, yada. I say talk about it openly and do what works best for your own marriage.

[effy2014]

although i am into the idea of watching my wife with another man, i am not into many of the ideas that go with cuckolding. i am not into being humiliated or dominated. i also am not into sucking the bull's cum out of my wife's VJay.

I didn't think so either. Your posts indicate that you are a confident man as well. That's why I'm stunned by the concept; it's clearly bubba's fantasy and not his wife's. She is satisfied by him alone but it is his fantasy to see her satisfied by someone else. Just can't wrap my brain around it. When I see the wife sharing videos, I fantasize about being the stud who satisfies the other guy's wife. Go figure.

[effy2014]

I enjoy MFM play very much. I enjoy being the center of sexual attention. I've been marked for 21 yrs. we are very happy together and these things keep our sexual relationship very fun and fresh, which isn't common after 20+ yrs of marriage, two kids, yada, yada, yada. I say talk about it openly and do what works best for your own marriage.

I clearly understand what you get out of it. What do you think he gets out of seeing you with another man? Do the two of you do the fmf thing as well?