[effy2014]

Do you watch shows Effy? Got great seats to see Zarkana. Can't wait for that. I am a big Cirque Du Soleil fan. Maybe we could go to a very nice place on the night of the show. What would you recommend Effy? If I don't go this weekend, I will go on another weekend. I go to Vegas at least once a year, often twice a year.

I will eat any cuisine, but I do love to go out nice. The Palazzo is a great choice and I love the suites. There are three amazing restaurants in the Palazzo/Venetian Complex. Wolfgang Puck's Cut is extraordinary. Mario Battali's B&B has very good Italian (the beef cheek ravioli is excellent). Thomas Keller's (of the French Laundry in Napa) Bouchon has a fabulous breakfast/brunch. My favorite meal was at Gordon Ramsay Steak in the Paris Hotel (the Sticky Toffee Pudding was worth the cost if the entire meal).

Since you are going to Aria for the Cirque show (I am a big fan but have not seen Zarkana), you and SAGF might like Julian Serrano's Tappas restaurant. It has fantastic reviews. I have stayed at Aria and the City Center complex is beautiful.

If you venture off the Strip, Bacci Burger has fantastic burgers and you will not get a bigger breakfast than at any of the Hash House restaurants. Good food as well. I also understand that there is an outpost of the NYC Shake Shack at Caesars. If there is . . . go.

Yes, I love Cirque shows. I also saw Manheim Steamroller over Thanksgiving two years ago which was fantastic.

[Something_Awesome]

Wow Effy... I will visit maybe two of your list then. Great post and informative.

I figure I will keep this as like a diary or something like that (for the weekend). I am at the gym as we speak and shortly after my last post I got into a little argument with my GF via text regarding the strip club. She tried calling me but I did not pick up. It's for the best as it's probably not good to answer a potentially hostile call while working out

[Something_Awesome]

GF got ticked off that I said I wanted her to get a lap dance and to touch the dancer and grab his ***. She called the idea very disrespectful and said she was shocked that I'd want that. She said she did not want to go to the strip club anymore. We talked and we are going to go after all but she says she does not want any dances. To me, that's like saying you want to get a gourmet burger and, once you get to the restaurant, asking for a quinoa patty. I just wanted to see her get a dance while I make it rain on them.

We're good now, but it makes me wonder about all the posts I read where a "woman" posts:

My husband wants to watch me have sex with another man. I was not OK with the idea at first, but now I am intrigued. I have been checking out such-and-such guys lately and think I may have someone in mind. What do you guys think?

I've seen like ten of those on here and they all read the same. If they are legit, it makes you wonder how the guy got their SO to want to have sex with another man when I can't even get my GF to touch a harmless entertainer without getting my head chewed off.

[jen1447]

No offense SumSum bit IMO you got your butt kicked for good reason. You don't decide that stuff for her. Some women do indeed freak out at the idea of a guy wanting something like that for them because they see it as a violation of your bond. SAGF is indeed somewhat conservative in some ways (despite the bedroom antics), so it's not really surprising to me she'd feel that way. My advice is don't breathe another word of it unless she brings it up, either before hand or at the club. The important thing is not that you want to "make it rain" while she gets a lap dance and gropes the guy, it's that she enjoys her time at the club however she wants to enjoy it. Sorry to beat you up buddy but you have it coming.

I have to ask btw - do you have some fantasy that involves SAGF having sex with other men? With all the other stuff we've covered, I don't recall. Doesn't sound like you but the way you're talking about it sounds significant.

[Something_Awesome]

Well, I assumed she was getting a dance. If she is getting a dance then it would look really wrong if she didn't touch the guy. I tried to explain it to her but she didn't get it.

Ok, so imagine my GF, being danced on, and she isn't allowed to touch the guy, while he teases her, and he's supposed to get paid. Sounds like she's his b_tch at that point. My perspective is she can touch all she wants if the guy is going to get paid, and he can't touch her. Shifts the balance of power back in her favor. I wouldn't like it any other way because it would make her seem desperate. Take it one step further. Imagine the male dancer asked her to sit on her hands (now a female dancer never asked me to do it, but I knew of this as being a practice before I went to my first strip club). OMFG I would be so ****ed

edit: And maybe because if she didn't act more assertive with the dancer that it would make me think why she is different with him than she is with me. I don't know. Though she is not that assertive outside of sex.

[jen1447]

It's a business establishment SumSum, those rules are there for a reason. So the comparisons don't really fly. And besides, she's no one's ***** under any circumstances - doesn't really matter if she's 'allowed' to grope a guy at a strip club or not. Her authority isn't really actions or evidence based, tho it's certainly fun for the two of you to demonstrate it wherever you like - between the two of you. I can almost guarantee she'll have no problem with the club rules for those reasons, but if it makes you feel any better personally, ask her to give you a shot to the sack when she gets done with her dance to 'restore' her authority in your eyes.

[Something_Awesome]

I am sure I will be sore down there before we go lol. And it's not the rules I was worried about. First, I doubt the guy would have minded, and second, I was not that concerned with the rules. I would have been OK with being removed for touching. We'd just go to Foundation Room after that or something. My only concern with being removed would be if she got embarrassed.

[jen1447]

Not your call. Let her sweat the big issues, that's why she makes the big bucks.

Seriously - she doesn't need you to do any thinking for her or really to 'protect' her or look out for her best interests or anything like that (except in obvious ways like with your muscles). She's perfectly capable herself.

[Something_Awesome]

BTW, good call on the violation of the bond. She said something similar, but with more words and it didn't really "click" at the time.

[Motorguy]

So, I intend to make some sex related posts about my trip to Vegas because, well, we will be trying new things and I want to talk about it. My trip is tomorrow and, last I checked, there was a pool that was started with regards to me getting pegged lmao. Not gonna' happen.

I guess I'd first like to start by saying we are planning to go to a strip club (would be my third time ever and her first time ever). MG recommended Polomino's (sp?), but I read one review on it that was enough to scare me away. Bad part of town, a sign that says no weapons allowed (really?), mean bouncers, and when you think about how they serve alcohol and show the vagina, you can imagine how the place could attract some grimey people. I don't want her in a place like that.

Stupid me asked my GF what she thought about seeing guys strip. It was an idea that had not crossed her mind before... So now she wants to see male strippers and has expressed no interest in seeing female strippers. I still want her to see female strippers (she had a curiousity before, so it probably just didn't vanish but got supressed by her curiosity of male strippers) So I've decided to take her to Olympic Garden (OG). It has female strippers on the first floor and male strippers on the second floor.

I plan to call OG's tonight to see if I need a table reservation and, if so, how that would affect us if we wanted to use bith floors. I also will ask if I, as a male, am allowed in the male stripper venue. When my GF and I talked about male strippers (like a couple weeks ago), we decided to search for such a club in Los Angeles (found a club called The Hollywood Men). The club's website said that they cannot legally keep me from going in, but that they preferred to not have men enter the club because it would make the women there feel uncomfortable, and that they should be allowed the privacy to act wild and let their hair down (or something to that effect).

My main question is if anyone know's if women are allowed to touch the male strippers. Like, can they grab their ****** and whatnot. I am guessing they can, but it would be a bummer if the ladies were not allowed to. It'd probably be a deal breaker for me if my GF can't touch them. It would make my GF appear degraded IMO.

Well SA have a good time this weekend with GF, I can't believe the Palmeno strip club took a nose drive like that. It was a great place for me and wife but place can change over time i guess it's to bad. I can't wait to read your story on your adventure in Vegas good luck and have a great time lol. My advice to you, Don't do anything I wouldn't do if you do name it after me lol.