[CHANDLERS WISH]

They are the same. Both use the exact same mechanical technique. "Making love" was coined by someone way too uptight to say "got ****** real good last night".

Come on Sin..... Your Married...... It's not all about "SEX".......... and yeah, you mean someone who was "horny" last night, and had sex.

Or was that now, as you read those words?

Be nice.

[SinisterUrge]

I would argue that such a person wasn't really making love, was s/he? I honestly believe that a person who makes love would care about how the other person feels about that act and would not defame it by making such a crude comment.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you implying that only people "in love" care about the other person? Is everybody going through the motions just one step above rape?!?

Come on Sin..... Your Married...... It's not all about "SEX".......... and yeah, you mean someone who was "horny" last night, and had sex.

Or was that now, as you read those words?

Be nice.

No, marriage is certainly not all about sex. But the sex that is involved with married persons is physically identical to unmarried sex. Being in love with someone doesn't change how reproduction works. The only difference is in the head of the performers, thus; 'making love' and 'sex' are one and the same.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

SinisterUrge
No, marriage is certainly not all about sex. But the sex that is involved with married persons is physically identical to unmarried sex. Being in love with someone doesn't change how reproduction works. The only difference is in the head of the performers, thus; 'making love' and 'sex' are one and the same.

Interesting and I don't disagree... However, surely, "making love" can also involve "feelings" , "emotions", thus adding a different quality into it, than performance of the love making, or sex persay. .........

[CC22]

I agree. Having sex is a one-night stand. Making love is with someone you're in love with and you do know you're going to be with him for a long time.

[damd]

[quote=SinisterUrge;44549]That doesn't make any sense. Are you implying that only people "in love" care about the other person? Is everybody going through the motions just one step above rape?!?quote]

Sure it does. Tying in what I posted earlier.

Making love is having sex while connecting more than just on a physical level.

Sex is purely physical.

A person might meet someone and have a one-night stand. I would consider that just having sex. But two people demonstating their love for each other... thats making love. However, it is still possible for two people to be in love and still just have sex hence the "quicky."

What I am saying SinU is that the person that you described did not "make love" but just had great sex based on the comment s/he made. To down play the act of making love to a crude remark as "got f*cked really good last night" shows that such a person was more into his/her own physical being rather than the overall state of both peoples involved.

No I am not implying that only people who are in love care about the other person. Nor am I implying that only people that are in love can make love. I am implying that only a person that cares about the other person can make love. Even if it just for that moment.

As for your rape comment, I sure hope not. Rape is forced. Everything I was talking about was between consenting adults.

[C]

To me the term of "having sex" would come into play when he sees the wild craving in my eyes and knows that I want his body...I want to be ravished...This is raw sex..It is filling a cavity that begs for nourishment.....A sexual hunger that needs to be extinguished....It is hot, hungry sex....Enjoyed, loved but adventuresome....

Now "Making Love" is something that we usually do to each other...We stimulate each other to sexual perfection...Usually more than one sexual position in mating..This is more of a performance or sexual dance of love to achieve this goal ....It is the highest sexual stimulation possible before that final step is taken of copulation (fooled you there didn't I)....The final ending of this happiness comes when I lick him off and swallow my lover..Now that is what I call "Making Love".....It is more erotic and animal like than it has ever been in our life....

[ChelseaRenee]

I think you can both make love AND have sex with someone you're in love with. Sometimes the BF and I will spend all day in bed fooling around and being together and end the night with amazing, passionate, loving sex, and other times it's frenzied, on the couch, loud, messy and over in 5 minutes. It's def. about the mood.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

You could look at the words separately:


SEX:

LOVE:

Sure you can have sex with both words in mind.

I envisage this:-

Sex:- (1) No commitment, you can still include foreplay but there are no emotions, pure lust, just do end of story.

Or straight out over the counter prescription, so to speak, filling one's needs/desires mind only on the medicine, attraction of physical needs, even in a committed relationship.

Love:- Feelings involved, emotions involved, want and desire, lust, love, wanting to please for no other reason than the word "love", and wanting to feel every emotion, and feeling, with love.

That's my version...

[Sweet Lady]

Sex:- (1) No commitment, you can still include foreplay but there are no emotions, pure lust, just do end of story.

Or straight out over the counter prescription, so to speak, filling one's needs/desires mind only on the medicine, attraction of physical needs, even in a committed relationship.

Love:- Feelings involved, emotions involved, want and desire, lust, love, wanting to please for no other reason than the word "love", and wanting to feel every emotion, and feeling, with love.

I think "making love" is the physical sexual expression of what I feel emotionally. When making love you actually try to show the other person how much you love/care for them by giving them the highest pleasure. I want to believe this takes time to do i.e. pay attention to detail in expressing that love to the other person or to each other.

"Sex" can and does involve love but as Caroline said, "This is raw sex". I think this when I can be selfish and "use" him to achieve my own level of physical satisfaction. Bump him for myself and forget about him.

Making love is quieter and dignified pleasuring; Sex is wild and may be noisey!

[Uneeklyme]

Sex is a physical act. Love enhances what sex can be. It's an emotional sex toy.

You have sex in every physical act... the one night stand, the uck buddy and the lover. There is always sex.

Now, sex with the one night stand or uck buddy or whatever, I am enclined to either kick them out of the bed and send em packin directly after sex or I would get dressed and get out directly after. No kissy, huggy, post coital glowing shared with a love. Sex with someone you love more often than not you bask in afterglow cuddled up to your lover maybe talking and purring at each other even if its just for a few minutes. You lay around with each other after going so high together and come down together blissfully. You've just made love and felt all the love right along with the physical pleasure of sex. With a one night stand or uck buddy, you just had the physical pleasure of sex.

The quicky... IMO unacceptable with a one night stand or uck buddy. With a love, I love that they take their pleasure with me knowing they are doing it with love and respect. If I dont get mine during a quicky, I know my lover will make it up to me at another time... one night stand or uck buddy...they don't really give a crud about your pleasure now or later. Its just sex and they are out to just get off as much you may be. No strings, no feelings.