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  • Ahryin
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 856

    I need some advice...my ex is back!

    Hello WH, good morning, good afternoon good evening to all...

    I'm going to try and make this as short and to the point as possible but in order to get the advice I need I am going to have to give as much info as possible (dang i'm glad my SO doesn't come to this site!)

    Ok...here is the thing months before I started dating my now SO (pic on the page...such a lovely man) I was on the back end of a short lived relationship with an up and coming hip hop artist. For those of you who do not know I write a lot, music is in my family so I spend a lot of time in recording studios (when I do have the time that is)

    This is how is started (sorry this might just be a long one) My sister moved into my apt in the BX I have stated that before. Now my neighbor has a recording studio built into the apt, its actually pretty neat and very useful. I have always passed my neighbor and said hello but never any meaningful convo. Turns out my sister knows my neighbor and has for years, he is a producer (doesn't mean he's not a bum) So...she kept telling me "you gotta meet him...i've been in the studio you just have to meet him...he makes beats he isn't going to charge us" blah blah blah..now I have my own places I go and affliates I deal with but its right accross the hall from the apt so I was tempted to at least try it out. The dude started courting me, and courting me hardcore...I wouldn't give him my number so he kept going to my house and asking my sister to call me. The whole nine....he allowed me to listen to his main artist and I really dig'd the dudes style. About a month past and we were all partying together popping bottles real video like (which means it looked like it was a scene from Jamie Fox's blame it on the alk video)

    Now Forum...remember I have told you I can speak on a lot of things because I have experienced a lot...things got a little hot and heavy and this dude was ON me like white on rice...well I gave in a tad bit and let him give me service (pleasure me with his mouth on my no-no spot) We were in his apartment and his freaking mother walked in! WTH Man! I have NEVER been walked in on and it was a real turn off. Whats even more strange is his mother seemed to be HAPPY about it. Turns out she wanted us to get together. His mother and him are very close and his mother also talks to my sister. Before I ever got to talk to my sister she did and told her "oh i'm so happy your sister and my son got together, you sister is such a beautiful young woman and so well established" Now this freaked me out even more. Let me also mention that the producer would not stop calling me and talking to my sister about me, telling my sister all these feelings he had about me and he couldn't stop thinking about me etc.

    Ok next part of the story...my sister calls me up on day and says...you know the artist we heard he is sitting here and you have to help him. He is having a problem with his son, the mother won't let him see his son and she took him. Now I have pretty good knowledge of the court system and laws when it comes to family law because I go through it a lot. AT first he just talked to me over the internet..I gave him all the links to the forms he needed to file and was giving him as much advice as I could. After speaking to him I could tell he really wanted to be in his sons life it touched me so I felt the least I could do was help him with info. Then we started talking on the phone, I would walk him through writing the letter to the judge and childsupport everything. I got him to file his own childsupport before the girl did which looks a lot better it proves you want to support your child. Then came the day we finally met...mind you another month had passed. His producer (who I want to say is also his best friend) was still calling me but I was not responding or barely responding.

    WH Fam..when I met this man I don't know what it was but I was blown away. He was funny, handsome, very tall, light skin, skinny and he twitched a little for health reasons but to me it was adorable ( I still don't know why). I was instantly attracted to him. On top of that I loved his music, his lyrics his passion. Well he felt the same way when it came to me. ( I want to note that at this time we had been talking to each other every day all day in some way shape or form) He took me to meet his mother (our familes are both from the caribean) She took one look at me and you could tell she just loved me. She took me aside and told me that he had only took one other woman to meet her and that was his sons mother, she said I must be special and please remember that. Her and I also had an instant connection. She was gorgeous and just looked strong. She thanked me for my help in finding her grandson and trying to get him back to them.

    Ok so a little time passed, a couple of meetings later and we were alone..thats when he asked me...What happened between you and my peoples (talking about the producer) He had this anger behind his eyes. I was touched and shocked at the same time. He is very vocal with his emotions, at least he was with me (I found out later he wasn't like this with other women) He explained how his producer didn't do anything, nothing at all. He made the beats, he wrote all the songs, the producer built the studio for him and all he really did was promote him. It made me laugh because the entire time the producer had been lying to myself and my sister. It didn't affect me because I do my own things. He wouldn't tell me what was said but the producer had lied to him and told him we went all the way. He said he didn't know his producer was talking about me..and that the producer had all these feelings for me. So he was confused. He told me he wanted me and he felt bad because he wanted me. He had this tormented look on his face as if the thought of me being with his friend was physically painful for him.
    I explained to him that his friend lied to him, that he wasn't telling the truth about what happened between us. Long story short we started seeing each other in secret. Only because it was really no ones business, also he didn't want to hurt his friend and I didn't want to come in-between them. My sister wanted me with the producer and I'm the baby of the family. My brothers and sisters are very protective of me. Before me he had been a ladies man and my sister feared I would be hurt. So she protested our friendship greatly.

    I just didn't want the drama. Things just got harder from there. I started to resent the fact that we were having this wonderful experience in secret. I mean when I was with him we were happy. He would smile all the time, he was teaching me things about music and equipment I didn't know before. WE would create together..he would write his songs and I was writing my sisters for my sisters album. Also..the sex was amazing! I really enjoyed pleasing him and he enjoyed everything! LOL

    Well then the sons mother found out and started fighting him more, the producer wouldn't stop calling me and he noticed it so we would argue about that, my sister found out and her and I would argue about it. It was just...drama! I don't do drama....next thing you know we broke up. There is more details to the story but if I devulged them all we would be here all day. Bottom line we broke up because I said it was time we just come out and tell everyone and face it together. He felt as if he betrayed his friend, I felt as if he was betraying me by not telling his friend. It got pretty ugly one day and I gave up and started to try and heal and move on. Still the fact remains that if those variables didn't exsist we would have been happy.

    We took a break with no contact between us and one day I got a text message from him. It said simply..."I told him" A few days past and he called me, we decided to be friends. Months later I met and started dating my SO which turned into what it is today.
    Now for the kicker....all this time my ex has been making songs about me, us, the situation...these songs are asking me to leave my SO, telling me to come home to him, that he loves me, he's sorry, he can do things better than my SO just put all the best love songs you have heard and put them to hip hop. He always sends me these songs but we rarely discuss the content. He says i'm his best critic because I actually listen. Sometimes I catch things he has overlooked. We are good friends. He has gone back to the way he was before me and has dated at least 6-8 women that I know of since us.

    Well as of late he has told me he is lonely (also let me mention he is about to sign with a major label...all off the songs he has writen about us) He instant messages me out of the blue and tells me he loves me, he misses me, he's so sorry...he doesn't even acknowledge the fact that I have someone.

    Now I know my SO has heard the songs i'm not sure if he has put two and two together. My sister is now in shock because she has heard the songs and she knows. She is like...wow..He has made me his son's godmother and before this we were good friends. I value our friendship but when he said he loved me and no matter what he is going to provide for me and my girls I felt my heart flutter...which put me on high alert...I'm not supposed to feel that right? I have always felt bad for my judgement with his producer, I knew what I was doing was wrong and I REGRET it! I hate that he (my ex) had to go through that, listening to his friend talk about me...but then again if he really cared wouldn't he had said something?

    I guess I just need advice....i'm not sure what I want to do Ohhhh and now my ex is asking if we can be intimate again, he wants to service me but I think it is just a ploy because he feels if he touches me I will not be able to let go of him.

    I don't know if I love my SO, but I know I still love my ex...the thing is I think I love my SO, he has never done anything to wrong me, not that I know of. I mean I know I don't trust him but thats an issue within myself, I trust NO man! There are so many things I enjoy about my SO for one my SO is drama free! He has no kids, we don't argue...not at all. My ex and I always argued but then we had great make up sex. I don't know why i'm confused..but I am...I just thought that if I wrote it all out and heard some of your opins I would be able to put things into better perspective.

    Be as open as you want, ask me what you want I will be listening closely to this thread.....I need your advice seriously!

    We took a break and became friends
  • Ahryin
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 856

    I thought maybe I should post one or so of the songs he has wrote so you get more of a jist of what i'm talking about

    This is from a mixtape he did a remix to Broken Hearted
    Chorus
    We used to fight and now I know that everything I did was wrong
    I should have tried to fix it then but now you're gone
    I left you broken hearted
    I left you broken hearted
    I left you broken hearted

    Now i'm feeling so lonely I'm wishing and hoping I could have my baby back
    Cause all I can think about is shorty reminescing about all the good times we had
    If I could go back in time then maybe
    I wouldn't feel the way I felt lately
    So if I had the chance I'd change things
    Cause now i'm going so crazy
    and in my heart I know I did you wrong
    The main reason that I wrote this song
    I want to cry but I have to be strong ... because i'm by myself

    (Chorus)

    I just want to say sorry for every single time I made you cry
    I'm by the phone hoping that you would call me
    I'm missing you more as of every day that goes by
    Apologies wont take away the pain but I could promise I wont do it again
    You're telling me it will never be the same
    I'm hoping we could be friends

    Cause I would do anything for you
    All the fussing and arguements are through
    So whatever it is you got it just name it I mean it

    Chorus

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    • Chantalemma
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 171

      Wow! Talk about complicated!

      Ok with the Ex? Do you think you have a future with him? Do you think that he loves you or wants you?

      With your SO? Do you see a future with him? I miagine he loves you and treats you well. Sometimes I have to say less baggage better it is. I don't like drama either. The quieter the better and you have 2 beautiful girsl right? You don't need drama in your life! Stick wiht the SO. Tell your ex to stay away. He had his chance. Sorry tiem to move on.

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      • Ahryin
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 856

        Yet another song he wrote ...

        A girl I know he can't treat you like I treat you shawty..you don't need that dude you can come home to me

        Ay shawty you don't need your man
        I can do it I can do it better than he can
        Baby he don't understand I got everything you want mommy take my hand

        Yes momma you the best momma you do you
        You don't worry about the rest momma
        But your man is worthless
        he's stressing you out
        But to me he's a clown
        He should be in a circus
        He's serving no purpose
        I'm seeing it like ..what you still with him for if he ain't treating you right
        That you don't need in your life
        Your to smart of a chick
        So he's trying to gas you
        I ain't even the type
        I would like to treat you like a wife believe but
        I ain't for the fight and I aint with the Ike and Tina
        Understand it boo..me lifting a hand to you won't happen thats nothing that a real man would do
        and i'm a real dude so i'mma hold you down
        Plus we stars so we shine whenever we roll around
        YOu could be my queen and I could be your King
        First you say you need a ring and i'm like it ain't a thing

        Chorus

        You know mommas ... you can come home to daddy anytime youre ready baby
        You don't need that man
        He can't treat you like I can anyway
        Tell that dude to get lost
        I'm taking over now
        YOu see me baby
        It's nothing what ever you need I got you

        YOU DONT NEED YOUR MAN (he screams it)
        Chorus

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        • LanaBear
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 8373

          Oh lord girl!

          Ex aside, do you love your SO? If he were to no longer be in your life, how would you feel?

          Thought process being... If you were to leave SO for ex and a drama filled relationship, what if things don't work out? You leave ex and no longer have SO. Is this a case of the grass may be greener?

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          • Ahryin
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 856

            That is what I have been thinking. I don't want to leave my SO but I know I still love my ex. My SO has never told me he loves me he shows me but he has never told me. I don't ask him because I don't feel I should have to and I feel it would be a smack in his face because of all the ways he shows me. Plus I want HIM to come out and say it freely when he feels ready.
            My ex on the other hand is trying to show me, tell me, wooo me...I don't know if that has anything to do with this feeling i'm having. It's just nerve wrecking...like WHY now? Why all of a sudden? My ex doesn't ask about my SO at all...he doesn't want to know. He will make smart comments like..where's ya dude? why isn't ya dude with you? Then I will ask him where are your groupies? AFter that we break off into more of a playful convo.

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            • CHANDLERS WISH
              • Mar 2008
              • 22440

              I felt like I was at the movies, watching a love triangle, with an un-happy ending.

              Hard to explain that one but I will try.

              As an ex-singer, I know, understand the strength of words, the beauty of music and the meanings and fuzzy feelings you get from listening to particular songs..

              What do we want out of life? To be looked after, to be treated like a Queen and him like a King, to live happily ever after, to be wanted and needed and loved.

              6-8 Ladies, in his life since you.

              A man whom can use words in songs and express his feelings...

              I'd be going to bed at night, hearing those songs, feeling that warm and wondering.

              All, the while you have a man in your life, who you adore but don't get to see very much at all, circumstances have changed and so it allows you to hear more of what the ex is saying, does it not, as he continues to send you the songs, continues to put thought patterns in your mind, he is still "classically" a part of your life, he is still in your life, he is your friend, however, he crosses the line, putting suggestive thoughts into your mind of ditching your current.

              Think back to when you were with him, sure make up sex was great, but he says he made you cry, and cry... He says he was wrong, he will not do this again, yet it was your compatibility of two people, or his nature full stop as to why that occured.

              Will that change?

              You say your SO and you don't argue ever, and that he shows you he loves you... you know that he does.

              How much do you "really love him?"...

              Emotional cheating is still cheating... And, you have a fear of cheaters, yet you are emotionally cheating on your SO yourself, but only because this ex is insisting you hear him.

              Does he hate to lose?

              Is it more about losing?

              Will he in fact be there for you and your daughters like he states? Will he marry you? Would you be happy in that world, with that life, and would you be happy never seeing your SO again?

              It's easy to be swept of your feet... with words, with lyrics, with music, with words.

              Look deep within your heart and do what your heart says not your mind, your mind is being taken over from the music.

              Look deeper into all you love about your SO, all you did love and didn't love about your ex.

              If you go the path of the ex, once he has won, will it go back to the same? Something you may not really know unless you try.

              But, if it did, would you then wish you had remained with your SO?

              It may be that you love your SO, however, you love the music world, and you love the drama that goes with that, the excitement and the wooing....

              WHAT is it that YOU need out of life?

              I feel he could be toxic and go back to what he was..

              I feel that your SO can't give you all you need but you love him.

              I think your kind of in a cross road.

              But, you need to take out the aweee factor and really focus on the whole thing, write down all about this guy on one page and all about SO on the other page, then write down on a third page all about you.

              I always feel that if someone is dreaming of someone else, then they are not in love totally with whom they are with.

              I also think that the ex is toxic and it's something you need for some reason that maybe if it's your SO that you establish is more for you, then something is missing in your now relationship that you have to include.

              Just understand, if you leave your SO for the ex, it may not work the way you think it will because what you are really going on is music, words, a creator... Is that the real person?

              It's such a hard one huh...

              CW
              PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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              • OGFL
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 46

                do you miss your ex or the sex? ( shot in the dark question, think hard about whether it was him or the amazing sex you miss more )

                if you u cant honestly answer that question without debating it your head, then what it is you truly miss is something you can make better with your current SO ( and if you u do i bet your feelings for your ex will disappear).

                Again, this is just a shot in the dark, but could be the ray of light u needed see

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                • OG612
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 261

                  No offense, sweetie, but your ex is a chump. There's nothing wrong with a man expressing his feelings for a woman, but if he's about to make a full-length album based on songs crying for his baby to come back to him... He has no balls.

                  If he was even HALF the player he fathoms himself to be (and I know that NY guys have almost zero "game") then this wouldn't even be an issue.

                  What happened here is that you made him your "dirty little secret." Your you made each other this. You hid it because "it's none of your business!" True. It's no one's business but y'alls. But when you hide something and make it "a secret" then it's going to come back and bite you in the **** when it comes to love.

                  I don't know enough about your current man to comment. From all accounts... he treats you pretty dam good.

                  You still have this strong emotional connection to your ex because it was an incredibly emotional relationship on both sides of the spectrum, and you never healed your wounded heart (hardly anybody does or even knows how to).

                  You say you love your current man... or at least think you might. Then you turn around and say that you're still in love with R&B Sensation. I don't think you love this guy. I think you love what he's about to be.

                  What it comes down to is this: What's going to be best for your current mental and emotional health RIGHT NOW?

                  OG
                  Through hypnosis, I create confident men and women to succeed in all facets of their lives. This place will soon get very interesting!

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                  • WildChild
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 14142

                    You've gotten some good responses and a lot to think about. I know this is a difficult situation to be in but consider a couple of things; you are in serious danger of having this choice taken from you. How long do you think your SO will sit still for this? He may love you and be waiting to see what you will chose to do but he may just decide to walk.

                    I wonder about the ex's integrity. What kind of man pursues a woman so blatantly while she is with another man? I may have some bias here, my first husband was "in love" with an ex girlfriend. He wrote songs and poems about her, painted pictures of her, begged her to come back to him -while we were married! She would respond to him but told him it could never happen. In the process I was miserable. When I finally left, then he freaked out and I became the lost love. This isn't exactly the same situation but it reminds me of it. It is really inappropriate for him to do this.

                    On the other hand he may really care for and love you. I think OG and CW brought up some good things to consider. Only you can make this choice. How do your children feel about each of these men?

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