[ItsASecret]

No such thing exists other than going into the doctors office and asking for him/her to inject you with some anti-man serum. Even with heavy explanation of your situation they may still refuse because of possible complications. Talking it over in counseling would be a far better route.

I dont see any harm in slipping a few in her morning coffee though, since its natural suppliments!!

lol I would not advise slipping people pills, placebo based ones or not.

[stressed]

Don't even think about it! Like HD said, what kind of woman would claim she loves you and let you take something like that? This is not love, this is prison with daily torture.

Have you talked to anyone close to you about this? A friend? A family member? What is so special about her as to lead you to such a decision? You need to talk with someone as soon as possible.

[Hopeless Dork]

Yeah suppliments can have adverse reactions too. You do not want to be responsible for causing some sort of allergic reaction.

Sex for a lot of women is mental... arrousal starts in the mind, they have to want to feel pleasure or they wont -- even if a guy is rubbing all the right spots, they won't feel good if someone doesn't want them to. The mental connection to whats happening pretty much has to take place.

[WildChild]

Anything that would work would mess you up in other ways and undermine your health, certainly long term if not in the short term.

THINK about what you are saying here. You want to change your fundamental nature to be happy with this woman. This is so wrong. It's completely out of balance and will mess you up.

I can understand where you are coming from, I've entertained these thoughts too.

I'm coming to an understanding that by sticking around hoping for change (it was perfect at first but he couldn't sustain being loving) I'm actually hurting not only myself but him too. The day will come when we transistion from life form to spirit and we will honestly see all we have done to ourselves and others and what it did to them, we will feel the pain we gave them. I believe this is the "judgement" we will face, not by a so called higher being but by our own honest look at ourselves. In their turn they will see and feel what their actions did to us. By staying and being unhappy we are actually placing a huge burden on them and thwarting both's growth and development into more loving beings.

By warping ourselves to accomodate their drama, we are harming both and facilitating them staying stuck. You don't get someone out of quick sand by jumping in there with them. You stay out of it and extend them a rope or pole to help pull them out. You keep your feet firmly on solid ground. Some people will refuse the hand. Like in RobinHood Men in Tights, when Little John falls in the stream. He is in inches of water but thrashes about and panics - this is how many of us live our lives. Robin doesn't lay down and start thrashing with him. he stays standing and offers a hand up. That is all you can do and be healthy.

It hurts, we see the potenial, what is there under their hurt and mind set. But until they, themselves unlock that and are ready to live it, we cannot force them to. And our distorting ourselves to accomodate their drama, harms us and doesn't really help them.

I'm struggling with this, how to convey this lovingly and hopefully keep a freind but be free to find what I need and hopefully see this one I love so much move toward healing and find their own happiness. It may not be with me, but I may be able to give the gift of making it possible for him to do. Really what could be more loving?

[pittsburgh44]

Don't even think about it! Like HD said, what kind of woman would claim she loves you and let you take something like that? This is not love, this is prison with daily torture.

Have you talked to anyone close to you about this? A friend? A family member? What is so special about her as to lead you to such a decision? You need to talk with someone as soon as possible.

I was just thinking that some temporary levity from the who situation would be nice for me, almost like a vacation!

[StillLearnin]

I was just thinking that some temporary levity from the who situation would be nice for me, almost like a vacation!

Even doing that on a temporary basis is messed up.

You actually need a long, extended, vacation back to your true self. Not a drug induced vacation to the sexless man that your fiance wants you to be.