[KarlAva]

Hello!

Hope it's okay to reply here after a while, but I wanted to give some feedback.
I've been very fortunate to have her permission for facials and I have been giving them from time to time. We have talked about it and she has been honest about not liking the act itself any more than she did before, but she also considers the helpless feeling quite arousing in a way. She also enjoys the fact that she knows she can say no at any time and I will respect that, but she always allows me to do it. When we first started doing facials, I had very mixed feelings about it - I loved ejaculating on her face, but sometimes I could tell she didn't really enjoy it and felt bad about it. Lately, however, I have surprisingly discovered that it actually turns me on even more. Sometimes, when we haven't had sex for a day or two and I am going to finish on her face, she just looks into my eyes and smiles, although she knows she will not like it. And when I'm ejaculating on her face a bit more boldly, I can tell she finds it too messy, but she just accepts it. She doesn't turn her face away, doesn't tell me to stop, just kneels in front of me calmly with her hands on her legs and allows me to do it. I'm in heaven with her

[Allie602]

She probably does not dislike it and is letting you do it, she probably feels neutral but is willing to humor you. It probably more your fantasy that she is letting you do something she does not want that makes you interpret her actions this I think.

The reason I point it out is that I wanted to offer a cautionary note: I think you should be careful not to give into getting turned-on by doing things to her that you think she does not want/like. Even if you just imagine it to be so. The reason I say that is because when I read your post little alarm bells started to fire.I was thinking that, taken to it's logical or illogical extent, what you are doing may be mildly sadistic. Do you think that you will need to do more overt sadistic things to keep you turned on in the future? Have you had any sadistic tendencies in the past? Does she have masochistic tendencies? If you are a matching set, it might be the beginning of a great romance. I hope you don't find this offensive, I did not mean it to be, it's just my crazy overactive analytic mind but I thought I would tell you what I thought anyway.

[KarlAva]

Hello!

No offense taken and I understand your point. It's the first time I've felt like this and I was ashamed to admit it to myself and her.

I know she enjoys being submissive in bed, she loves me holding her head during oral, carefully thrusting into her mouth, being tied up, having anal in a position where she can't move, but I know she really loves the feeling of not having any control. With facials, I know she considers it emotionally the most submissive act possible, but she finds having my ejaculate on her face physically unpleasant.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

I am sorry but having read all of this, I believe that Fallen1's original post to you is correct..

It is great that you have found something that turns you on to the hilt, and makes you want more sex, when she is the more sexual person, otherwise she would miss out, that's basically what you've stated.

But now you talk about, holding her head durning oral, thrusting in her mouth, tying her up, anal, no control..

I have to ask you, what does she like? What has she stated she would love to do?

Is this equal?

Some women can't handle cum on their bodies, other's love the way their partner loves the feeling and it's exciting and they will put up with it...

But, you make it sound as if you purely wish to share the way you love this feeling...

We get that, there is no question?

What would she love that you would find un--pleasant and have you done that...

What ever that is...

[Guest]

I really don't like it when my b/f does this to me, but he likes to do it.

When he's ready to cum he puts his hand behind my head and holds my face up so he can get a good shot at it, he calls this "Painting my face"

[KarlAva]

But now you talk about, holding her head durning oral, thrusting in her mouth, tying her up, anal, no control..

I have to ask you, what does she like? What has she stated she would love to do?

She has stated that she enjoys all of these acts the way we do it and she is the one who usually decides on it when she's in a submissive mood. And we don't do anything remotely rough, for example when I am holding her head, I make sure that I don't go too deep and she's enjoying herself. And she likes doing most of these things to me as well sometimes. Having her tie me to the bed and kneel over my face with a devious smile is nothing but a turn-on.

Her biggest everyday pleasures are receiving lots of oral sex with g-spot stimulation and long sessions of vaginal sex in three or four of her favorite positions and I'm more than happy to please her.

What would she love that you would find un--pleasant and have you done that...

What ever that is...

Well, there are two things. First of all, she loves wearing lingerie, mostly stockings with garter belts and high heels. And she sometimes finds it very kinky if she's not the only one dressed up. When she's in a very dominating mood, one of her biggest fantasies is taking me with a strap-on. Honestly, both of these acts feel rather awkward to me, but I know it turns her on and that is enough for me

[Allie602]

Hello!

No offense taken and I understand your point. It's the first time I've felt like this and I was ashamed to admit it to myself and her.

I know she enjoys being submissive in bed, she loves me holding her head during oral, carefully thrusting into her mouth, being tied up, having anal in a position where she can't move, but I know she really loves the feeling of not having any control. With facials, I know she considers it emotionally the most submissive act possible, but she finds having my ejaculate on her face physically unpleasant.

Sounds like fun (except anal, my issues), I'm submissive too but all the time.

[Mr. Inquisitive]

I enjoy to give a good ole facial but I save it for those occasions when it is a particularily hot sex session. Other times she gets them by mistake, usually when I pull out and she finishes me off by hand. Then we laugh about it clean up and go about our buisness. I much as I enjoy doing this I think it is something that should done only on occasion.

Side note more often than not, when it is an extra powerful blast it tends to land in the hair more than the face, which she does not like (but not to the point of angering her). So as an aside question do all women hate when it gets in thir hair?

[Mitchel1870]

Never having had the chance to do this I must say that reading some of the women's experiences I must applaud them for their ability to delve into their partners fantasy. There are many lucky men out there, these men don't know how lucky they have it.

I am incredibly turned on by the act of ejaculating on my partners body but she can not handle this. When ever my semen touches her, she is deeply grossed out. You would think that battery acid comes out of my body, which makes me feel quite shameful about sex. I can see how it could be perceived as demeaning but it is not intended as that way. I am not disgusted about anything that is left on me after a active and satisfying sexual session that belongs/comes from my wife. I feel that it is evidence of sexual satisfaction that I have provided, which is important to me that I provide.

[Allie602]

Never having had the chance to do this I must say that reading some of the women's experiences I must applaud them for their ability to delve into their partners fantasy. There are many lucky men out there, these men don't know how lucky they have it.

I am incredibly turned on by the act of ejaculating on my partners body but she can not handle this. ....... I am not disgusted about anything that is left on me after a active and satisfying sexual session that belongs/comes from my wife. I feel that it is evidence of sexual satisfaction that I have provided, which is important to me that I provide.

Not picking on you when I read this I starting thinking -
This is something that I find difficult to resolve. One person is turned on by something that the other finds repugnant. What to do. It seems that the person with the strong objection can hardly say yes. If they did do the deed despite their strong distaste what enjoyment would there be in that for the other party. I wonder how the partner with the fantasy can feel slighted given the alternative - deriving pleasure at another's expense.

I get into longing for what I don't have, and thinking about it thinking and of ways to get it. I eventually stop and look around and realize I have more than 90% of the people on the planet, what makes me so deserving. Better enjoy it could be worse. I just stop thinking about the longed for whatever and I find I have renewed appreciation for what I have.

Maybe that's the way these sexual dissatisfaction should be handled. I suppose it is one of my worries about things that just don't appeal to me that my partner wants. I feel at times unloved if he hints at it. I feel am not enough? If I wanted to do everything I would be someone else but I'm not, I'm me.

I asked my SO to show me some empathy - put himself in my shoes feel what I feel and look at his request from my eyes. He got ****ed accused me of calling him self-centered. Oh well

I think the over reaction to your sperm getting on her is silly. Ask her how would she feel if you reacted that way with her fluids. Ask her to put herself in your shoes. Is there an underlying reason she has this reaction? How old is she and has she had very little experience. She could show a little compassion by not showing her dislike, people do that usually. Why did she make it so obvious to you that not kosher.

I would take the attitude of expecting her to grow out of her dislike as a natural course of maturing sexually. Or at the lest make no display of dislike in your presence.

It is a crushing blow when a partner shows distastes for body parts and fluids in an intimate setting. There should be acceptance and safety.It seems almost sacrilegious like cursing in church - if that happened to me it would just freeze me up. Geeez. what did she think was going to come out of you milk?

I hope she doesn't start making you pull out and cum in a little paper cup.