[CHANDLERS WISH]

In-deed it may be a complex person, maybe to work things out, maybe a very deep mind, we are not here to judge, it's easy to call troll but in retrospect, in denial? you do not answer.... You do avoid posts and those answers....

In any event, if not wanting answers? Maybe a "click" something that made sense are we not all built in differnt ways?

As Corey states, who knows..

Only the OP can help add, give us more insight and allow us to help more , or not...


CW

[Ashlee T.]

Let me clarify that I was in no way trying to say that the OP is a troll...in case I gave that impression which seems to be what started the whole "is he a troller? is he not?" conversation. What I said is that I do not believe the OP actually wants to be any different than he is. He gives the impression that he believes he knows all the answers already, he combats any advice given to him (or doesn't respond), then eventually he stops responding.....only to come back a few weeks later and post something similar yet always a little more bizarre.

I do not believe an addiction to porn or prostitutes would explain his behavior, in any way, shape or form. If that were the case he'd be focusing his attention on those things......not focusing his attention on unsuspecting women who he might "score" with.


The OP has regulary made statements in his posts that are disrespectful to women, yet says he doesn't disrespect women. He argues that he's not analyzing and hunting these women for sex, he only wants someone to cuddle and kiss......... but then he posts that if she attempted anything with him he wouldn't turn her down, and posts about not being able to resist paying for oral sex from prostitutes. For a man that can't resist his urges, he certainly purposefully puts himself around alot of unsuspecting women. And frankly, I feel for this new roommate, this young woman who is being watched so intently for even the slightest sign of ANYTHING that even remotely resembles interest so that a move to some extent can be made on her........all the while she's in the comforts of her own home. Sad. And then if she IS interested, he'll make her believe he's interested in her so he can use her for her body because she's not good enough to be anything more than that. Even sadder.

I have a feeling there is much MUCH more to all this than the OP will ever even be willing to admit to us on here anonymously.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

We "hear" disrespect.

If we were to try to analise,...

The women are, women, the outer-selves, the beauty, the smell, the makeup, the smile, the alure, the temptation...

A soul, a shell, the inner-self, the beauty inside a sign, she's the one, no alluring, temptation, rather her, the innerself...

Could it be that your "seeing" the outer self of all women, as temptation...

But, searching for the one that has soul, that allures you mentally, not physically....

If that is the case, this is difficult because you have to see all women for themselves, their innerself, not the cask, mask that we wear....

CW

[bob_smith]

I have no objections to prostitution where the women have consciously chosen that career. I suspect this is the case for most high priced call girls, but for street walkers it is much more difficult to tell. I have never used a prostitute and don't plan to, but maybe it is possible to tell from their behavior before you hire their services? The prostitution in Germany "looks" legit - in Reeperbahn in Hamburg the prostitutes line up next to the police station, but of course if they are economic slaves, the presence of police doesn't help.

I think women should have complete rights over their own bodies - including the right to sell them.

In Germany the prostitutes are in brothels which are very clean and nice looking. It's very weird. You go to the red light district and there will be about 8 brothels all right next to each other. In each brothel there is about 15 rooms, each hooker has her own room. She has to pay 80 euros a day to rent the room, so that means she needs at least 3 customers to make a profit. (30 euros for 15 minutes). There is even a security guard in the brothels who looks like a normal person. So I don't think there is any pimp or madame, it's just pay 80 euros to the brothel and that's it. Also the men that go there seem to be a perfect cross-cut of the men in society. It's not like the men that go there are different from other men. They look like normal men.

I looked up human trafficking in Germany. Prostitution is legal in Germany and they even have health insurance. There were 775 cases of documented human trafficking in Germany in 2008 according to the Govt report so it does happen.

[bob_smith]

The women are, women, the outer-selves, the beauty, the smell, the makeup, the smile, the alure, the temptation...

A soul, a shell, the inner-self, the beauty inside a sign, she's the one, no alluring, temptation, rather her, the innerself...

I don't go to the brothel because I disrespect women, I go to the brothel because I can't resist and it's an addiction. I treat hookers with respect and am very polite to them. Just look at Elliot Sptizer, he extracted 5 billion dollars in fines from corrupt wall street firms when he served as Attorney General of New York. He was one of the best politicians this country has ever had. I was very upset the day of his scandal, because I knew that what happened him, could happen to me.

[bob_smith]

The thing is that Mr Smith has a dedication to a belief system that runs contrary to his biology and basic nature. That is bound to create confusion and frustration. This is a fundamental of most religion, to create guilt and a control mechanism using something that vitually undeniable in most people- sex.

I don't see anything wrong with having ideals, failing to obtain them, then feeling guilty when I fail. I believe guilt is good, because it makes strive to do better. I would rather have ideals and fail to obtain them, then disbelieve in ideals.

Why not start looking for a woman who is your match? One that you are very attracted to, physically, emotionally and intelectually? Understand though that you must be able to respect her and honor who she is and not see her as a tool for sexual release or as inferior to you. She may be different but is not inferior.

I am always on the look out for true love and marriage. Have been since 2001.

[bob_smith]

How many attractive vulnerable woman are there that take a room alone with men?

In the former case I had two other roommates (one guy, one girl) , in this case I have two other roommates (two guys, but one has a girlfriend).

He answers only some post that offer the most material for his arguments and ignores others.

I don't have the time to answer everyone.

it would seem that young woman would room together to have friends and not with a man in his 30's.

The former was 24, this one is 28.

If I am wrong forgive me.

Trust me, we will.

[bob_smith]

Cw, I'm going to take a mental note of your comments but when you ask me a direct question I will answer it:

Do you believe in re-incarnation? Do you believe in past lives?

I believe a new soul can be combined with an already built soul. So, let's take Bobby Fischer being the reincarnation of Paul Morphy. They were both amazing chess players and both went somewhat insane after a few short years of playing amazing chess. Yes, I think Fischer had some new soul but also Paul Morphy's soul was reused and combined with his.

Do you believe that we are here to learn and change past mistakes?

not sure what you mean

[Allie602]

. Just look at Elliot Sptizer, he extracted 5 billion dollars in fines from corrupt wall street firms when he served as Attorney General of New York. He was one of the best politicians this country has ever had. I was very upset the day of his scandal, because I knew that what happened him, could happen to me.

Your country" ?? You are in Germany, not "this country".

You overplayed the brothel, I can google that just like you.

The roomate you said she shared the rent on your apartment where did all of those other people come from?. The 28 yo she is a student did you say maybe in your class. 28 is old for a student inGermany they go from hs into a specialized schools bypassing the 4 year collage. They are usually finished well before 28. The 24 yo was a more likely candidate for a student

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Cw, I'm going to take a mental note of your comments but when you ask me a direct question I will answer it:


I believe a new soul can be combined with an already built soul. So, let's take Bobby Fischer being the reincarnation of Paul Morphy. They were both amazing chess players and both went somewhat insane after a few short years of playing amazing chess. Yes, I think Fischer had some new soul but also Paul Morphy's soul was reused and combined with his.


not sure what you mean

Can't hurt So you are a deep person...

Do you believe that we are here to learn and change past mistakes?

If you believe in re-incarnation, my point is, then you have to believe that in our previous life, we made mistakes, and we are put back on this earth to correct those, or try to correct those before dying and being re-born again...

That is my belief... It was just a question, trying to get to know the inner you. ...

The women are, women, the outer-selves, the beauty, the smell, the makeup, the smile, the alure, the temptation...

A soul, a shell, the inner-self, the beauty inside a sign, she's the one, no alluring, temptation, rather her, the innerself...

There is a point I was trying to make here... You say you've been searching since 2001, you've been consistant with "10 years"... keep your mental notes I won't ask the same questions... But, what I was getting at here, is not that you disrespect prostitutes, you have stated your pastor is ok, your mum is ok, you are not okay with it, so it makes sense that you respect them and treat them well...

It is that if you look at all women, if they agree to your seductions, suggestions, having lusted after them, or if you "as addicted" try on each women, how can you find your soul partner? As you are seeing the outer person... You haven't gotten past that, the chemistry, your seeing what allures you, the temptation....

What if, you could change this addiction? By, actually taking time to change your thought pattern... What if, you focused on seeing the inner person, getting to know them, first, their personality, their morals, core values, life, .... wouldn't you then find the person your seeking?

In other words, all women you see as chemistry, sex.. I think personally in my opinion, the cuddles/hugs are the missing link to love and the oral sex, is the link to missing intimacy with the person your trying to find....

As for not having time to answer everyone? I've already stated it doesn't matter, what matters is what helps and what doesn't and what you may feel you want to answer, it's your thread.

To clarify for the members I am sure you have stated you travel, and are in Germany now, you weren't born there... We slip when we say in the now, when our minds reverts to the past..

In reference to Corey, you are addicted to prostitutes, that is your thread, it makes sense that as your in Germany, you know exactly how it all works... Any addiction, you know your facts on...

In reference to putting someone down on this Forum? It's called judging and I will remind people to be very careful....

Bob, I think the key for you is that you believe in God, you believe in re-carnation, you believe in love, your romantic, but it's almost like I said, to me, in my opinion that your lost... Your taking what religion is teaching you, your taking what people, pastor, mum, best friend are telling you and your confused, based on "finding that equal soul"..

And, again, I think you view the outer of women, you have to view the inner...

When anybody sees a person for who they are what they have to offer, their love they have to give, their beauty shines through both inside and out and then you add the compatibility and you forget the things you had in "boxes" of what she/ he had to have, because you've fallen in love, together....

You need to get help for the addiction of seeing women on the outside only, sexually.

So that you can find, their inner person... and find your wife.. In my humble opinion....

CW