[Elanor-Jane]

What is more interesting is they (men worried about their penis size) take something that they cannot work on (the size of their penis) and obsess over it while ignoring what they can work on (their personality, their willingness to give and their skill at being a lover).

Very true, although I have seen some really sad instances of surgery being performed on men to make it bigger but it's not say as common as a boob job. Funnily enough on the show I saw about penis enlargement surgery the guy started off with an above average wang but still thought it was small! He went back like three times as it was never big enough! So so sad. I can totally relate to having low self esteem but I've never had it translate into being unhappy with my body. It just seems so vacuous, and it's sad as it means many people have the most unimportant values.

[Mes T]

Yeah. If only we could isolate the stems of those values and eradicate them... Where to start though? It's like the little pageant girl who grows up to think that looks are all that matter. Shame on her, but it's ultimately her mother's fault.

[ska1331]

So true. Unfortunately it takes awhile, and some never do get it, but eventually people realize that its what's inside and not the outside that counts. My wife's ex was very well endowed, but was a complete jerk and on top of that, didn't know how to use what he had. He thought it was for his pleasure and not hers. As if she should be pleased/ excited just be the sheer size of it. Then she met me. It took a while for her to get used to being with someone that puts her pleasure above all else. That's more important than size anytime.