[LoveYourLife]

Let me put it this way: I have a lady riend who has both a son and daughter. She told her daughter, "Remember, anything a man can do, you can do better."

I asked her, "So do you also tell your son that a woman can do anything better than he can?"

"Haha, no, of course not," was her reply.

But that is our culture. Like Annie Oakley, "Anything you can do, I can do better!"

So men are naturally dominant but culturally submissive. And the end result is "odd" sexual fetishes and sexually frustrated women. imho

Yeah, I see what you mean.

[darcdante]

I also think the reason why he's into it being a type of 'fight' is because just imagining being dominated the old fashion way by other girl (like whip style) might be kinda boring it's not even like I'm trying to fight back or struggle at that point. This it would be like I'm trying to resist, but just getting overpowered by another girl.

I think a almost all people like dominance/submission during sex, but without the bondage and whips. The black leather/masks/chains/whatnot turns me off, but I like being both dominant and submissive.

Here's a hint: one reason men like BJs so much is cause it's lazy sex, but also dominant. Your boyfriend, imho, wants a break from always having to be in control and is combining that with the hawtness of two women getting it on. That's all I see. And now that you've brought it up, I think it's my new fantasy lol.

I honestly think it's great that he feels so open with you that he can mention this. I also think that he wants to "be in your corner" and "nurse you back to health," so to speak. That lets him be chivalrous while still seeing you submit, and it's all sexualized. I dunno, I think it's hot, and cute that he's in your corner.

Anyway, I hope my responses helped. I say go with it! And if you have any fantasies, share them with him too, and get a *** for tat trade. :P

[LoveYourLife]

I think a almost all people like dominance/submission during sex, but without the bondage and whips. The black leather/masks/chains/whatnot turns me off, but I like being both dominant and submissive.

Here's a hint: one reason men like BJs so much is cause it's lazy sex, but also dominant. Your boyfriend, imho, wants a break from always having to be in control and is combining that with the hawtness of two women getting it on. That's all I see. And now that you've brought it up, I think it's my new fantasy lol.

I honestly think it's great that he feels so open with you that he can mention this. I also think that he wants to "be in your corner" and "nurse you back to health," so to speak. That lets him be chivalrous while still seeing you submit, and it's all sexualized. I dunno, I think it's hot, and cute that he's in your corner.

Anyway, I hope my responses helped. I say go with it! And if you have any fantasies, share them with him too, and get a *** for tat trade. :P

Your responses definitely helped!

You've basically completely given my viewpoint of this fantasy a 180 since I posted the other day. When I first asked these questions I was apprehensive and thought it was a really 'weird' but now that I've really given thought to why he would want to do it I feel completely different. Like you said I think it's incredibly hot and cute that that he wants to be in my corner like that. : )

I think I'm going to stick with the shadow boxing for now, that way he can be on the side lines and pretend to be my little cheerleader, haha. :P

I'll start it off being fairy even, like in the first round or so, but then after that I'll start to get overwhelmed and battered around the ring. After another round or two I'll make it so that I'm basically completely helpless and at the mercy of the other girl, all leading up to a dramatic KO.

Maybe we'll even do like a prefight where I seem super confident and I'm telling him what I'm going to do to her, and then during the first corner session I'll still be confident, but then each subsequent corner I'll become like progressively more submissive and less confident and I'll pretend to be injured and stuff too so he can 'fix me up' (Which can basically be like sexual stimulation, forplay, or something) and then we can save the 'main event' for after I'm KO'd and he's 'consoling me / tending to my wounds', hehe.

About the porn someone mentioned earlier, maybe I should watch one with him to kind of get a feel for what he's looking for, although now that I'm feeling more confident about this whole thing I think I'll be able to act it out pretty well. :P What do you guys think?

[rcoreyus]

My thought on the porn was to find a video that involves women fighting / wrestling. You'd watch it with him, then when it ends and one woman looses, you pretend to be her so he can console you or whatever he wants.

Its always tough trying to figure out a kink that you don't share. To the person with the kink it seems obvious what is important, but to someone else, it isn't clear what part of the scenario really matters. Other people's kinks are fine, and if it is your partner, then its great to try to satisfy them, but it can be tricky to figure out what they really want. In this case is it the domination aspect? Should the fighting be sexual, or (play) violent? It part of his kink you being with another real woman (in which case this is more difficult to do). I think the best you can do is talk to him to try to find out what matters, then try a few things.

Again its really very nice of you to try to do this for him - I hope he is as willing to do things you want in bed.

Thanks for your reply!

Hrmm, the porn idea is interesting. Do you mean like play the video and act out what's happening on the screen pretending to be the losing woman?

I think he enjoys dominating me only in the sexual sense (eg. Being in control in bed), I don't think he would actually like to pretend to dominate me, but then again if he could also pretend to be the woman dominating me he might go for it. I guess it depends if he'll be able to get into character while still keeping the fantasy sexy for himself. He could still do the corner thing, but he wouldn't be able to encourage me from the sidelines like he could if I just shadowboxed. It would also probably be harder to coordinate because instead of me just making up the entire scenario I would have to work with him to get a feel for how he wants me to react to his pretend blows, haha. That's not necessarily a bad thing I guess. It would give him more direction. I'll have to talk to him about it.

[LoveYourLife]

My thought on the porn was to find a video that involves women fighting / wrestling. You'd watch it with him, then when it ends and one woman looses, you pretend to be her so he can console you or whatever he wants.

Its always tough trying to figure out a kink that you don't share. To the person with the kink it seems obvious what is important, but to someone else, it isn't clear what part of the scenario really matters. Other people's kinks are fine, and if it is your partner, then its great to try to satisfy them, but it can be tricky to figure out what they really want. In this case is it the domination aspect? Should the fighting be sexual, or (play) violent? It part of his kink you being with another real woman (in which case this is more difficult to do). I think the best you can do is talk to him to try to find out what matters, then try a few things.

Again its really very nice of you to try to do this for him - I hope he is as willing to do things you want in bed.

Ah, ok I understand about the porn now. I think I'm gonna go for the shadow boxing, but I think I'm gonna look online for some videos and study up a bit so I look like I know what I'm doing.

Also, I was talked to a close girlfriend about this last night and she said that she she's seen 'topless boxing' videos online and that apparently several companies produce per-arranged topless boxing bouts so she figures there must be some type of audience for it. So I guess some type of girl vs girl fantasy/fetish isn't as far out there as I had originally thought.

So I think I'm gonna go topless with panties during the shadow boxing, or maybe completely nude? I don't rally know, with panties he'll have something to take off so that could add a little more sexual tension...

As for what part of the fetish he really wants? I honestly, think it's a combination. He wants to see me dominated by another women and nurture me back to health primarily. But I think the context of it being a competition is important because he doesn't what it to be like a pre-arranged dom session where I'm going there with the intent to get dominated. He wants it to be like I'm fighting another girl trying to win with him pulling for me, but then end up getting dominated and he comes in to console me after the loss and 'tend to my wounds'.

As for the sexuality. I think he wants their to be sexual tension and intamacy between us throughout the fight, before, and after, but he doesn't want the fight itself to involve sex. So for example, the fight would be like a standard boxing match with punching so it would be more like play violence than sexual fighting. But then during the rounds when I see him in the corner he wants it to be a little sexual when he's trying to pep talk me up and tend to my 'injuries' know what I mean?

I also thought of another idea that I think is really cool. It's basically to use cosmetics to make my face and body look more beaten after each round. I figure that having fake bruises/blood on the face would make it more convincing that I'm losing the fight and it would help sell the the fact that I'm getting beaten/dominated better because I wouldn't only be relying on making painful grunts, heavy breathing, panting, etc. It wouldn't necessarily have to look super real, just enough to get the point across that I took some damage. I'm thinking like dark eye shadow to simulate black eyes, maybe something like red lipstick to simulate fake blood? If anyone has any better suggestions I'm all for hearing them. I'm not sure exactly how I could create bruises on other parts of my body.

I was also thinking of adding on to the role playing a little bit. I really want this to be hot, sexy, and extra special for him. I was thinking that I could basically be a champion in some type of topless boxing league. I would make up some record, undefeated, and that night I would be defending my title for like the 3rd or 4th time or something and that's when I get beaten badly by the challenger. I figured it just adds an entire new emotional dynamic to the entire thing. The whole being confident and being on top to getting dominated and being humbled type of thing. I think that will really get him going.

Haha, I can't believe how much fun I'm having thinking about this and helping flesh it out. Thanks again to all who have posted for helping me see this fantasy in a different light. Now I'm really excited and looking forward to it. You guys have helped me see that their is nothing to be ashamed about and that these types of things can be fun for both of parties, not just the one getting their fantasy fulfilled.

And don't worry about my fantasy. He's already taken care of it. It was a little bit more standard and less complicated than this one, haha. I'm honestly so lucky to have him, he's such a generous lover. That's why I really want to be able to push our sexual boundaries and bit and try stuff like this! : )

[Guest]

Wow, could hardly believe what I was reading here! My husband has the exact same fantasy. I have basically been telling him stories in the bedroom of me fighting (and generally losing) to either imaginary women, or women that we know for the last 5 years. How did your 'shadow boxing' go? maybe I should try that, he would love it. Its just so crazy to me that your bf is into exactly the same thing. maybe one day for a big bday, we can arrange something lol....

[LoveYourLife]

Wow, could hardly believe what I was reading here! My husband has the exact same fantasy. I have basically been telling him stories in the bedroom of me fighting (and generally losing) to either imaginary women, or women that we know for the last 5 years. How did your 'shadow boxing' go? maybe I should try that, he would love it. Its just so crazy to me that your bf is into exactly the same thing. maybe one day for a big bday, we can arrange something lol....

Wow, could hardly believe what I was reading here! My husband has the exact same fantasy. I have basically been telling him stories in the bedroom of me fighting (and generally losing) to either imaginary women, or women that we know for the last 5 years. How did your 'shadow boxing' go? maybe I should try that, he would love it. Its just so crazy to me that your bf is into exactly the same thing. maybe one day for a big bday, we can arrange something lol....

Wow, I can't believe it either, haha! I'm so glad there is someone else out there who's significant other has the same fantasy! I would love to talk more about it with you sometime. I'm sure if we put our minds together we'll come up with some stuff that will drive our men wild!

The 'shadow boxing' went really well. I really had him going the entire time, and I was surprised at how into it I got acting out the scene. It was actually quite a bit of fun. You should definitely try it. It's fun and I'm sure he would love it!

Just wondering can you tell me a little more about the stories that you tell him? Is it just of you fighting or is their any type of roleplaying of any sort. I've only done this a few times now, but my BF really loves it when I give the fight a context/backstory.

I'm so thrilled that I started doing this. Ever since we've been having the best sex so far in our relationship. His fantasy is truly becoming my fantasy, lol.

[Guest]

Definitely up for talking about ways to drive them crazy! Basically, our routine has become me starting with a story as we get into bed. Something like "I was in a store today and this girl started up w me in the dressing room...then giving a blow by blow of words exchanged, and a back and forth fight to a conclusion. Or... So 'insert woman we know", u know how she always ticks me off, well, she came over earlier today to drop something off, and I finally said to her "let's settle or issues woman vs woman" and detail a fight in our den. Obviously there are a lot of such possibilities. Not a ton of role play, though will occasionally Show him how I moaned or cried out as the other woman hit me or pinned me lol. Of course there is plenty of "me time" too, so this works well for us both.

Like anything in life or in the bedroom, things can get repetitive, so always up for ideas! Again, if you think of anything good let me know! Will see if the shadow boxing thing works for him.

[LoveYourLife]

Definitely up for talking about ways to drive them crazy! Basically, our routine has become me starting with a story as we get into bed. Something like "I was in a store today and this girl started up w me in the dressing room...then giving a blow by blow of words exchanged, and a back and forth fight to a conclusion. Or... So 'insert woman we know", u know how she always ticks me off, well, she came over earlier today to drop something off, and I finally said to her "let's settle or issues woman vs woman" and detail a fight in our den. Obviously there are a lot of such possibilities. Not a ton of role play, though will occasionally Show him how I moaned or cried out as the other woman hit me or pinned me lol. Of course there is plenty of "me time" too, so this works well for us both.

Like anything in life or in the bedroom, things can get repetitive, so always up for ideas! Again, if you think of anything good let me know! Will see if the shadow boxing thing works for him.

Awesome! I'd love to talk as well. I have a few ideas in mind that you could try. Did you get my message?

Also, how did it go with the shadow boxing?

[Guest]

I just got it and responded! Didn't know where to look before. Haven't tried shadow boxing yet but planning it. It's nice to be able o talk to someone partner is into the same thing. Looking forward to working together