[betamale]

Hello forum members,

I have had some experience, although I do not consider myself an expert, far from it, thus my inquiry. I have watched videos and read tutorials (ie. Eat ******************** Like a Champ/Learn about the g-spot, a-spot, etc.) on how to properly please a woman through oral stimulation, but even after going through all the info, I don't think I got it quite down.

Here's my approach: I gently massage the pelvic region. Work the vaginal mound, the area attaching the legs and the pelvis. I kiss the area and the lips. I go slowly, realizing that rushing into it would be such a mood killer. I tease my way towards the vagina. Eventually, I would start gently by licking the clit and its hood. I would then form my mouth into a position as if I were sucking a cherry. With this position, I would suck the clitoris while trying to use my tongue to lick up and down or side to side. I would go at this for more than 5 minutes. My chin would be wet and the genital area would be as well, but I'm not sure if my partner came or not. I'm too ashamed to ask, and maybe, they are not honest about it to prevent me from being embarrassed. I think the wetness comes about from my tongue action, so I don't think I made her come. Sometimes I would try to work my finger into the vaginal canal, while sucking on the clit, or sometimes to take a break from the clit action. I would start with one finger, making sure it is moist by licking it and inserting it downwards with the palm side facing the floor. I would use it to feel the insides and massage the walls. After a period of time, I would go with two fingers, but no more than that. I would then try to have both fingers pointed upward and give the "come to me" motion while pressing on the top floor, trying to rub against what I think is the g-spot. I don't think I have ever found it. (Side story: I had one partner that let me explore the inner walls of her vagina through fingering. I tried to search for the ever-elusive g-spot, but did not find it. My partner looked bored.)

I had a partner that had a milkish fluid that was almost drying up near the entrance of her vagina. I tasted it. Not sure what it was. I thought for her to come, it would have to be moist and dripping.

I had another partner, that after she rode me through various positions of cowgirl, I wanted to taste her. I stuck my tongue inside and tasted something sweet. Obviously, not as a result of any oral stimulation on my part.

I read somewhere that the clit itself is not the point of stimulation but a nerve located nearby at the hood region. Is this correct?

Does sticking one's tongue into a vaginal canal do much? By the way, I don't have much length, as far as the tongue goes.

I have seen several porno films from Japan where the male actor would have their fingers inserted into the female performer and they would be jamming it aggressively. The female performer would eventually become very wet and she wouldn't stop dripping or her juices would fly everywhere. The male actor would sample the juices and finger her some more, and the female performer would cum again and again. I'm trying to get my partner to come, but I am intimidated that I can't even get her to this point, even once.

I have even considered traveling to New York after hearing about an individual that specializes in teaching proper technique through "in vivo" (live/being present at the moment) training.

Would like some feedback on this.

[jns]

You switched from present tense to future tense. Is this a scenario or have you actually tried it?

As far as your actions, have you had a girl just suck on your penis with no other action or maybe a bit? Do you think such action would get you to orgasm? I do not think it would, at least not after a few times. Licking or rubbing is more likely than sucking to produce results with a woman (from experience). It can be directly on the clitoris or through the hood. The clitoris is usually the most sensitive part, but it can be overly sensitive from direct stimulation, hence the stimulation through the hood.

You have to get feedback on if you are hitting the right spots and to what degree. This can be her saying things to you when you are doing it right, from your observations of her level of excitement (hopefully you are building it) or a combination of the two.

Try to keep from going at it too strong or too long as you can overstimulate or fatigue her. Take short breaks away from the clitoris. Just go to another place like her inner thighs, but then come back.

Usually the vaginal canal doesn't give a lot of response from oral. The concentration of nerves is much lower there than for the clitoris. However, you may get some response, so it is useful to check if she responds to tonguing there. Other areas are near her urethra such as the urethral sponge may respond to tonguing.

Porn is usually very bad at giving good technique for bringing a girl to orgasm. The Japanese porno you talked about sounds painful.

Oh yeah, every girl is different so what works on one may not work on another.

[betamale]

I appreciate the feedback, jns.

The described scenario is what I have tried with several partners that I have had as I learn about this process. An instructional video or two that taught me to suck on a female's clit is due in part that they have stated that the clit is similar (with all its nerve endings concentrated in such a small area of the body) to the tip of a man's penis. So, I followed the procedure of sucking lightly and increasing the intensity of it, while licking up and down or side to side at the same time. But, I will take into account what you have said and go ahead with that next time. The recommendation of relying more on licking and rubbing.

The feedback part is a hit or miss. A previous experience had me fingering my partner and asking her if she is feeling anything, while I tried to look for that g-spot.

You also mentioned not going too long, but does it not require at least more than 5 minutes of continuous stimulation to get her going orally. I remember reading somewhere that it's at least 7 minutes of genital to genital friction to stimulate a female in that manner.

[jns]

Stimulation without over stimulation or fatigue has been a case of build up, relax a bit then build up higher and repeat in my experience.

In the quickest of times, I have gotten a girl to first orgasm in about 3 to 5 minutes, maybe manually slightly faster than orally. On the slowest of times, it has taken well over a half an hour on a different girl. One girl I got to orgasm with breast stimulation. That took about an hour if I remember rightly.

You being relaxed will help her relax and not worry if she doesn't seem to be getting close to orgasm right away. Let her know you find her sexy and exciting as you go.

Observing her level of excitement can be tightening of her muscles such as in her legs and stomach, her moving slightly to another position to be more comfortable, changes in her breathing patterns, etc.

[betamale]

Thanks again, jns. I'll take note of the physical changes. Quick question though, I know they say it's about 2 knuckles in, but I have had the hardest of times trying to find that g-spot. I try to feel the upper cavity of her vagina for that ridge or bump, about a nickle size, but still have not come across it. I'm guessing that it's due to me not stimulating her enough to get it to become more prominent in size.