[CuriousYellow]

You never ramble Romy your points are well read so good job. With me my wife is bi but I will watch her with girl friends or she will have girls night out for her fun with them but never another guy would join in there be issue with that with me.

Wish my wife was bi.

[jen1447]

305 - glad it worked out for you!

effy, I was mainly just saying that IMO a woman who has bi fantasies is ....maybe kinda bi in reality too (pretty common in my opinion and experience) , but that for practical purposes, if she states that she's strictly straight, you don't really have anything to worry about regardless. I know you don't worry much yourself, but it seems to pop up in Something's mind from time to time.

[Motorguy]

I dunno Motorguy... If my GF decided to have fun on the side with females it would mortify me. She says for certain she has no interest in women, she just likes to compete with them. I believe her.

Well the first thing in a relationship is trust and I feel you have that with your GF. You should never doubt her unless she gives you reason to do so. I believe your relationship is just fine nothing to worry about SA good luck.

[effy2014]

There's a thin line between fantasy and reality.

(j/k ....while that's fundamentally true, the practical reality for you guys is that no, your girls are not bisexual. You really shouldn't stress over it. )

I never stressed about it. But I think there is a very bright line between fantasy and reality. Each of us know our relationships and each of us set boundaries -- I'm not talking about particular sex acts. For Romy and I (and I think S_A), the bedroom can be very experimental but only between us and our partners. For you, again based on your writing, it's the exclusivity you and your BF have the male-female relationship.

It's the made up fantasy, with no rational basis, that has me shaking my head. Maybe that is the real danger of porn.

[effy2014]

Let me put this mfm question to rest..., well, at least for guys like myself:
There's nothing I want more than to possess and dominate a woman that is wildly out of control with sexual passion, and whatever it takes to get her there, I will discover and provide. I do whatever it takes to invade the privacy of her mind, extract her fantasies, and either tempt her with my knowledge and desire for them or actually make them happen, pushing her limits at times in succumbing to her own ideas. It doesn't really matter what it is, as long as the notion makes her cum hard and loud. If I find out she's gotten off on being tied-up, I tie her up, if she wonders what anal is like, I give it to her, if she imagines being with another woman..., well, of course I'd luv to ******** both of them ideally, so I'm led to the idea that, similarly, she'd go just as crazy having sex with two guys as I would with two girls, and that makes me super-hard when she wants it and I'm in control. It's all about her fantasies though, and if it turns out that she hates a concept, I'd never have any desire to return to it ever again. Make sense??

It doesn't put anything to "rest" with respect to the discussion that Jen and I were having. You write in terms of the woman's desires and fantasies. "It's all about HER fantasies". That makes perfect sense. We all want to satisfy the desires of our partner, within the limits of our emotional bonds. I get that those are different for different people.

The issue that made us both scratch our heads is when the fantasy is ONLY the man's fantasy in seeing his wife or GF having sex with another man. Most of the time (read the posts in this forum), the wife or girlfriend rejects the idea. The assumption here is that the man is not homosexual or bisexual. No one has yet to explain this desire in a non-cuckhold relationship. The closest we've come is that porn has made a fantasy.

If these same men . . . the ones who will allow anything that would satisfy his woman ... would be upset if their wife has an affair that she thoroughly enjoyed sexually . . . I'm confused even more.

[Stu]

Let me put this mfm question to rest..., well, at least for guys like myself:
There's nothing I want more than to possess and dominate a woman that is wildly out of control with sexual passion, and whatever it takes to get her there, I will discover and provide. I do whatever it takes to invade the privacy of her mind, extract her fantasies, and either tempt her with my knowledge and desire for them or actually make them happen, pushing her limits at times in succumbing to her own ideas. It doesn't really matter what it is, as long as the notion makes her cum hard and loud. If I find out she's gotten off on being tied-up, I tie her up, if she wonders what anal is like, I give it to her, if she imagines being with another woman..., well, of course I'd luv to **** both of them ideally, so I'm led to the idea that, similarly, she'd go just as crazy having sex with two guys as I would with two girls, and that makes me super-hard when she wants it and I'm in control. It's all about her fantasies though, and if it turns out that she hates a concept, I'd never have any desire to return to it ever again. Make sense??

Oh you better believe it ....no stone left unturned in my world.

Something, interesting connection to voyeurism type kink, hadn't thought of that. There may also be a connection with the 'making/forcing' thing - the power is out of the submissive guy's hands and he has no choice but to do what she wants or watch her doing what she wants. But why would the guy vicariously enjoy her sexuality (when he could have it all to himself I assume), and why is the superiority of the 'bull' so important? Those things still seem kinda unanswered.

Oh and I hate the sound of "cuckold" too. I think if it had a cooler name I'd talk about it a lot more. (I've heard "hot wife" used for the women ....that sound silly too but it's not as bad as cuckold.)

Oh p.s. - I'm pretty sure BF is not that way (99%). I read people well and we have no secrets. I guess there's always a narrow possibility tho. Maybe I'll ask him outright or just threaten to beat the truth out of him.

[305]

The great thing about the experience was that we enjoyed it so much that have talked about doing it more...lol and after I've finished with my friend...my bf would jump right in for seconds lol it's hot but kinky lol

[305]

Hey (:
I'm with a BIG smile because it happen this weekend!!! Twice matter in fact! Fiancé and I had two encounters with my friend.
At first it was just me and my fiancé making out...(did talk about rules) not too many lol but I wanted to make sure it was something he wanted to experience and if he was going to be okay...we also reassured each other that this was experimenting.
Well, we made out and then he came...bf watched...while we made out...lots of laughing and giggling lol and then...we started to make out heavy...while bf just watched and stroked himself...I have to say it was erotic lol first time it was just me and my friend...then bf joined us...wow! I couldn't think I could handle both guys but I managed just fine lol
Well, we both liked it VERY MUCH and so did my friend that he asked permission for seconds...it was not denied (:
I'm just shocked I could handle both men lol

[jen1447]

There's a thin line between fantasy and reality.

(j/k ....while that's fundamentally true, the practical reality for you guys is that no, your girls are not bisexual. You really shouldn't stress over it. )

[effy2014]

I dunno Motorguy... If my GF decided to have fun on the side with females it would mortify me. She says for certain she has no interest in women, she just likes to compete with them. I believe her.

Not every woman is bi . . . My SO had a bi fantasy relationship but could never act on it. I am like you -- keep the bedroom between me and my SO. As you have recently learned, you don't need a third person to spice things up.