[kaylar]

As men on the Down Low reject the possibility
that they are homosexual, they spend a great
deal of time trying to convince others that
they are 'men'.

They will regale with ecstatic reports of
anal sex, how it is so much better than
vaginal.

They 'sell' themselves the story that everything
is just perfect, and refuse, at first to even
recognise their fascination with the anus.

They might begin with some contraption to
represent a penis being inserted into their
anus until such time as they appreciate that
they wish truly to be penetrated by a man.

It may take a year or more for the male to
admit he wants to have sex with a man,
'just to try it', (his lie to himself)
but in truth, he is a homosexual in denial.

Eventually he will manifest, first in the
down low, then eventually accept his homosexuality.

[gyrator53]

"many men attempt to divert by the 'pegging' that you spoke of. They are gay, suppressing it, assuming that if they have anal sex and a female is on the
other side of the dildo they are not gay."


Do you have any evidence to support your contention that “many men” act as you describe? I think you are peddling a fiction – a dangerous fiction (and, based on a view of your postings are for some reason peddling it very hard indeed) that a desire on the part of a man to receive anal stimulation is a definite sign of a homosexual desire. This is utter nonsense. If one applies the same twisted logic to women one would conclude that a woman who likes receiving oral sex, especially one who can orgasm with oral sex but not from penile penetration alone is certainly a closet lesbian. This is of course nonsense as is your assertion.


If you had ever experienced a male orgasm yourself you would know that the seat of the ecstatic sensations is not in the head or shaft of the penis but is in the 'engine room' of a man's sexuality around the prostate gland. Many men discover early on in life that it is quite possible to have an orgasm without penile stimulation. In the days before safety regulations stopped it school gymnasiums were equipped with high climbing ropes and I cannot have been the only boy to discover that the act of climbing one of these could rapidly bring on a climax. So it is fair to assume that most if not all men are well aware that the prostate is central in their sexuality.


It seems to me that what you are suggesting to your fellow women is – don't indulge your husband's desire to be pegged as it is going to encourage him to become gay or perhaps that if your boyfriend expresses a desire to be pegged drop him fast as he is a closet gay who is only using you as a decoy. If we return to my female analogy this would be the same as saying to a man that, despite knowing that the clitoris is a critical part of a woman's sexuality, you must under no circumstances massage it or orally stimulate it as this will only make her into a lesbian and if she wants anything other than penis in vagina sex in the missionary position with no foreplay dump her quick as she's already a lesbian for sure. Total nonsense, of course, but I believe your thesis is equally flawed.

[kaylar]

Caroline, as is painfully obvious to me the
poster you quote is a homosexual male who is
trying to remove the 'stigma' of anal by
'spreading it around'.

If what he said were true we would have died
off as a species millions of years ago. Once
a guy found out he could have pleasure by
sticking a branch up his rectum, what would he
need women for?

And when he found that another guy's penis
worked even better, well then all the men
would be gay and alas there goes the human race.

Since we seem to have an overpopulation problem
on this particular planet, I would make the wild
assumption that the majority of human beings
engage in penile/vaginal sex. Often. Very often.
Maybe too often.

I don't know why no one else on this MB ever
heard of wikipedia or google or any 'search
engine' where they could actually, all by
themselves, do a search and read the data
published on various sites on the Internet.

I guess many people don't have the 'research
gene'.
Or, as one pundit said;
'Don't confuse me with the facts!'

[gyrator53]

“ When I brought up to my friend who is very knowledgeable about sex, this term pegging she did not know what this was. From what I can gather this is a gay term. “


I suggest you look at the wikipedia entry on the term. As you will see it was relatively recently adopted and as the wiki entry notes it is a specifically heterosexual term.


“I have asked my husband about anal sex on him and if this was a thing in the Navy years ago. His answer, these guys were thrown out.”


Chances are that these men did experience a form of heterosexual anal stimulation. More than 35 years ago Alex Comfort in his book “Joy of Sex” noted that digital anal stimulation during fellatio as a way of enhancing and/or quickening an orgasm was “a well known old bordello trick”.

“Being at a woman's forum any man here can/could say he is married and yet not be. He could instead be promoting this anal sex and just pushing more women to allow their husband's this sexual turn on which brings him closer to the sliding over to the other side part of his sexual preferance.”


Would I be right in thinking this is an argumentum ad hominem directed at me?


“From women that have written me when I discussed this very slightly on my site because truly it kind of sickened me, they have said that when they do this that their husband/lover did not want to participate in full sexual intercourse. He just wanted this. “


One can find examples for arguments both ways. I can certainly direct you to a post on one of the “tribes” where one man with an enlarged prostate was quite simply incapable of getting a serviceable erection until his wife started to peg him. Apparently he is now significantly relieved of the symptoms of his enlarged prostate including being able once again to penetrate his wife. This, I understand, would not be news to some in Japan where wives massaging the prostate of their husbands for health reasons has long been practised.



Kaylar - another Argumentum ad hominem and therefore not worthy of a civil reply.

[sourpuss]

I'm shocked at the close-mindedness of some of the posters on this site.

[Fallen1]

......that a desire on the part of a man to receive anal stimulation is a definite sign of a homosexual desire. This is utter nonsense. If one applies the same twisted logic to women one would conclude that a woman who likes receiving oral sex, especially one who can orgasm with oral sex but not from penile penetration alone is certainly a closet lesbian .......

....... If we return to my female analogy this would be the same as saying to a man that, despite knowing that the clitoris is a critical part of a woman's sexuality, you must under no circumstances massage it or orally stimulate it as this will only make her into a lesbian and if she wants anything other than penis in vagina sex in the missionary position with no foreplay dump her quick as she's already a lesbian for sure. Total nonsense, of course, but I believe your thesis is equally flawed.

Whatever you may think gyrator's or others intentions are on this particular issue, you have to admit he does have a very good point here.

[sourpuss]

Whatever you may think gyrator's or others intentions are on this particular issue, you have to admit he does have a very good point here.

Agreed. With both you and gyrator.

[kaylar]

'Duals' are secondary accounts created by a poster who
can not rely on his/her argument to 'convince' or'destroy'
another poster's points.

A poster who uses duals will make a point, and then make it again and again using different accounts; duals.

Often 'ringers', these are posters
who pretend to be what they are not, i.e. a homosexual male
who pretends to be a woman or married man, will create duals of the 'useful' gender/race/
sexual orientation to 'back up' his post.

So Ricardo, who is a homosexual male pretending to be
a married hetero will make a point, and then log in
as a female, Kama, and make an ancilliary point to
confirm his point, and then he will log in as Tuna
another female who confirms the points made by
Ricardo.

An unaware user will see three 'different' people
making the same point. Hence the view is that
'everyone' agrees with Ricardo.

[sourpuss]

Are you accusing the people who don't agree with you of being alias'?

[commonsense]

homo argument

Very truthfully, you are very learned in defending the homosexuality issue and Anal Sex. I am not. It does not interest me but it does interest you. I do realize that some people who really do not have too much of a sex life life we do will go to any extent to find one. But I wonder why do you hang around a woman's site and push your rhetoric and quote passages unless you are very aware of the arguments that surround you..

I am into helping women with sex. My husband has never spent hours masturbating nor watching Porn. He has spent hours doing me. What you push and what you talk about is a dangerous practice. Not only for the health of a woman but for the sexual relation's that she will miss when she starts bugging you up........

I will not answer you again as I have more important things to talk about and it sure is not the joys of a man's as* or sticking it up a woman's a*s. Crude but honey, I said it all......Happy Holiday's.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! That replay was hilarious!