[C]

Caroline, I can tell you what certain posters are
here for, and what they are going to post. I don't
need to read them, so I don't.

Don't allow cow patties to dictate which MBs you
can belong to and what you can or can't post.

Just step around them.

Kay that is my Achilles Heel. The rejection and questioning myself if I am right in my thinking.

Being a sexually satisfied women, it makes me sick to see men try to persuade other women on this Forum to perform this on their mates. My reasoning on this is that we are already struggling to get our man to give us oral when he only wants a blow job. This is true of many relationships. Men are getting more demanding every day. Sure glad I was not born in this era. .

I wonder if a woman realizes if they introduce this anal pleasuring to their man, that by his possibly loving this anal act of a dildo up his butt that she could be losing a special part of her satisfaction in her sexual life. With this act a man will so often ejaculate from this new thrill of this object up his butt. When this happens he no longer needs her and the close intimacy of their hot sex is lost. It is the special joining of two people that makes sexual relations wonderful. I guess I always go for "The Perfect F**k....and this just would not be it....but then I am older and I am sure times have changed.....but lord, how I love it here.....

[kaylar]

One day, at a community meeting, the Chair suggested
we go on a trip. We go to some beach somewhere
requiring a bus.

I live on the beach, everyone can walk to the beach.

She was going on of where she'd get the bus and who
would do the cooking, and everyone was silent. There
were about one hundred people there.

No one said anything.

I'm thinking, well, 'I'm not going, I hope they have
a nice time.'

She went on and on, and still no one said anything.

Then she asked how many people were going, so she would
know how many buses to hire.

NOT ONE PERSON RAISED THEIR HAND.

Just picture it. A hundred people, saying nothing,
the Chair is talking, no one is arguing, no one is
making any sounds to suggest disapproval.

But NOT ONE PERSON thought it was a good idea.

If this conversation was going on the Internet
she might have created 'duals' to agree with her
so that the body would think; "Everyone is going,"
as I did.

The point is, outside of the Chair there was no
interest in this trip.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Glancing over this thread with tired eyes it looks like we've got a homophobe who's been hurt when a partner went gay, and it's affected her reasoning abilities.

There's so many flaws in the arguments here, but I can't be bothered to do a full post atm. Maybe some time in the future. Basically, I think Kaylar is extremely closed-minded and predjudiced, and talks with certainty about issues of which she doesn't know all the facts.


A short point though - gay men are mostly annoying - as in, CAMPNESS is horrible and annoying. I have no problem with what gays do, I have a problem with the personality of CAMP people. Why can't a male who hates camp people be bisexual?

[kaylar]

but then I am older and I am sure times have changed.....but lord, how I love it here.....

Caro....
I don't think that things have changed tho'.
I think there are those who wish to make it
seem so. It's as in the Community Meeting.

The Chair made it seem that everyone was just
dying to go on a trip. No one was. Each of
us sat silently thinking, as I was thinking;
"Well, I'm not going," but not until it came
to the vote was it revealed that it was only
one person who wanted this trip.

In RL, unlike the Internet, there are no
'duals'. But I think, that even on the
Internet, where one person can have four
or five duals, and all four or five agree,
the people are still not going to go on
the trip.

[Little]

Glancing over this thread with tired eyes it looks like we've got a homophobe who's been hurt when a partner went gay, and it's affected her reasoning abilities.

There's so many flaws in the arguments here, but I can't be bothered to do a full post atm. Maybe some time in the future. Basically, I think Kaylar is extremely closed-minded and predjudiced, and talks with certainty about issues of which she doesn't know all the facts.


A short point though - gay men are mostly annoying - as in, CAMPNESS is horrible and annoying. I have no problem with what gays do, I have a problem with the personality of CAMP people. Why can't a male who hates camp people be bisexual?

Haha, are you trying to make fun of me? I'm "hurt" because my middle school online boyfriend went gay? You're joking, right?
Gay men can be horrible or amazing. Just like straight men or bisexual men .... or lesbians or bisexual or straight women ...
Just like anybody.
I mean, I could ask you if your girlfriend ever did achieve that orgasm, or if she minds that you "took over" her profile (I mean, shouldn't anyone raise an eyebrow at the name "anonymous white female" when the poster is male?) I love my gay friends. One of which is my ex-boyfriend. He's a sweetie. Not to mention campy as all get-out.
I have a wonderful gaydar these days, but my homophobe-dar is even better, and it is going off ... just not in Kaylar or Caroline's direction.

This thread, again, is about men who, instead of coming clean with their sexual desires towards men, choose to hurt those near to them.

So, get off your high horse. It doesn't have a thing to do with your run-of-the-mill gay man ... or straight man ... or man of whatever sexual preference who happens to like to stick it in people's butts. It has to do with heinous liars, and the warning signs concerned.
Side-note, and if English isn't your first language, feel free to ignore it: Firefox has a spell-checker. I know it's a tricky language, what with all the lenition going on, but spelling things right is what lets us know you're not a bored middle schooler on winter break.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Sorry Little, I should've been more specific. My post was not aimed at you whatsoever, it was aimed at kaylar.

I mean, I could ask you if your girlfriend ever did achieve that orgasm, or if she minds that you "took over" her profile (I mean, shouldn't anyone raise an eyebrow at the name "anonymous white female" when the poster is male?)

I don't quite know why we're going here, I'm honest here. I've got no reason to be otherwise. About the name, I simply don't see it as important *shrugs*

It doesn't have a thing to do with your run-of-the-mill gay man ... or straight man ... or man of whatever sexual preference who happens to like to stick it in people's butts.

As I said, I was talking to kaylar not you - and in kaylars head, this is exactly what it's about.

Side-note, and if English isn't your first language, feel free to ignore it: Firefox has a spell-checker. I know it's a tricky language, what with all the lenition going on, but spelling things right is what lets us know you're not a bored middle schooler on winter break.

*Yawn* A typo at 3 in the morning after a bottle of wine doesn't mean anything, and it's fairly anal of you to concentrate so much on that one mistake, given that I'm one of the more elegent speakers wherever I go... And I don't rely on spell checkers - I believe they encourage a lazy mind.

Oh, and if I'm a homophobe, why am I arguing FOR homo/bisexuality. If you want to define homophobia as hating camp people, then you've nailed me, otherwise you're far off.

[kaylar]

[QUOTE=Little;25847]



[B]This thread, again, is about men who, instead of coming clean with their sexual desires towards men, choose to hurt those near to them.


The reason why Down Low is getting so much
attention from the academic community is
because of it's obvious '1984' connotation...
"WAR IS PEACE"...

Men on the Downlow reject everything about
homosexuality and do everything they can
to dispell any suggestion that they have
anything to do with homosexuality, while
engaging in homosexuality.

The Denial aspect is what causes the most
attention. These men deny that they are
gay, deny their desire for male anal sex,
and create a overt situation with wife and
children to 'prove' they are straight.

The fact that they engage, often in
unprotected anal sex with various men
puts them first in line for STDs, esp.
AIDs, and the number of hetero women
who have not been promiscuious who now
develope AIDs is alarming.

Originally the phenomenon surfaced in the
black community esp. amid the 'gangsta'
rappers or 'thugs' who surround them,
but has now passed into the white male
community.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

In most forums I know, kaylar, you'd already have been banned for impersonating a member of staff, and countlessly double posting, not to mention racial and sexual prejudice.


If you think people will listen to you I fear you're gravely mistaken. Go preach at the YMCA.

[kaylar]

The major point about the Down Low, to distinguish
it from Gay Culture or Bi-sexualism, is that the
Man on the Down Low rejects any inference
that he is gay.

He rejects Gay culture. He is often one of the most
vocal anti-gay voices.

He becomes vehemently angry when homosexuality is
suggested.

He is in such denial that he can not recognise that
anal sex is homosexuality. He will quote all sorts
of 'facts' none of which are, on examination true or
true in the sense he is using it.

He will proclaim he is not a homosexual.
Yet, he engages in anal sex with men.

Because of this he exposes his wife/girlfriend
to disease and the devastation of learning that
her man prefers to have sex with other men
than with her.

[rcoreyus]

Is there an equivelent for women? Are there nominally straight women who are having lesbian affairs on the side? It isn't so worrisome, most lesbian sexual activities are less likely to spread disease than most male homosexual activities. (though of course safe male homosexual sex exists as well).