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  • Motorguy
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 3921

    Originally posted by Patti-here
    Well never being a prostitute I can't answer all your questions,, but I'd think anything short of being tied up and beaten can't be refused...
    Very good point Patti, but many street walkers prostitutes are threaten and beaten.If they even think of leaving so there terrorize by there pimps to make them more money and nothing else.So you can say they are being dramatized by fear.
    When out driving always turn left. Then, should you become lost, you can find your way home by reversing the procedure and always turning right.

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    • Patti-here
      Banned
      • Mar 2014
      • 2602

      Originally posted by Motorguy
      Very good point Patti, but many street walkers prostitutes are threaten and beaten.If they even think of leaving so there terrorize by there pimps to make them more money and nothing else.So you can say they are being dramatized by fear.
      Yes I understand that, but we're talking about 'legalized prostitution' so the pimp is eliminated from the scenario.

      In other words, it's a free will proposition.

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      • Motorguy
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 3921

        Originally posted by Patti-here
        Yes I understand that, but we're talking about 'legalized prostitution' so the pimp is eliminated from the scenario.

        In other words, it's a free will proposition.
        Well every major city in this country have massage parlor they are just legit cat houses nothing else. I think it's the right thing to do the women are off the street they using condoms plus are tested regularly
        But if the city just open there eyes they see there be less street walkers no pimps plus there making money from business licence fee plus tax revenue it's a win win situation for everyone.It works great in Coppenhagen, Denmark with prostitution and drugs and there violence crime there is almost none.
        When out driving always turn left. Then, should you become lost, you can find your way home by reversing the procedure and always turning right.

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        • Lancashire Lad
          Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 69

          One thing about pimps is they wont go away and still need money so they will draw more kids into a seedy life.

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          • Motorguy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 3921

            Originally posted by Lancashire Lad
            One thing about pimps is they wont go away and still need money so they will draw more kids into a seedy life.
            Well yes that's a whole different issue they are using minors and that is completely very bad. I say you arrest them and throw the book at them they found guilty they get shot.This is a real big problem in this country with underage prostitutes.If you come down hard on these scam bags maybe they think twice about having underage prostitute in there stable.
            When out driving always turn left. Then, should you become lost, you can find your way home by reversing the procedure and always turning right.

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            • Little
              • Feb 2007
              • 4329

              I've read a few accounts of sex workers in Australia where the business is legal and regulated. It helps that the reports come from native English speakers in a 1st world country - definitely a model of what legalized paid sex could look like in the US.

              It sounds a lot like the modeling business. They might work for agents or a center that gives out their information. They are able to report malicious Johns so that other sex workers don't have to deal with bad customers. The women seemed as though they were pleased with their jobs and the treatment the law afforded them, and I don't hear about Australians rising up in protest against it, sooo ...

              Certainly a sex worker should be able to deny services at will, for good reasons or no reason at all. Suppose I ran a business building websites. Maybe I specialize in HTML but somebody wants a site built with Java - I can say no! Or even if somebody wanted the exact product I specialize in, but was a total creeper I didn't want to work with ... nope. If no other private business is required to dispense services they don't want to dispense, why should a prostitute be considered differently?
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              • jns
                Assistant Admin
                • Mar 2010
                • 8398

                Originally posted by Little
                If no other private business is required to dispense services they don't want to dispense, why should a prostitute be considered differently?
                Doctors are forced to dispense aid at times when they know that they will not be paid for services rendered (or even goods such as bandages, medicine, sutures, etc.). The federal government is forcing companies to dispense birth control and have medical insurance for employees that covers abortions against the religious objections of their owners. I think that the government should start a service to cover what is left out by private companies instead of forcing them to do something they find repugnant. In the end though, companies are at least partially public. Individuals should not have their rights limited to give rights to others.
                I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
                ...
                Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

                From a speech by Patrick Henry on March 23, 1775 at St. John's Church, Richmond, Virginia

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                • Justice
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 204

                  little, I think jns is correct. businesses can be penalized for discrimination, although I can think of examples like the eentertainment industry, which cannot.refuse to provide services to people in a number of protected classes. so if you were a male.prostitute who.only wanted to service females. the laws could force yo to service other males? the was a story recently about a wedding cake baker who was devout and was being force to do a cake for a gay wedding. no matter than thousands of other bakeries would do.the job, the govt was going to force the one who did not was to, to do it. so assumedly the court could order prostitute to provide service that they do nit want to customers thst don't want to service

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                  • Little
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 4329

                    I was thinking of that, JNS, but couldn't think of any non-essential services that can't deny service - though one could argue that non-life-threatening healthcare is not essential. The closest thing I could come to were protected states like being unable to deny service based on ethnicity, gender, etc. Usually there is a work-around - the provider can deny service for "no" reason.
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                    • Sonny
                      Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 44

                      Originally posted by Patti-here
                      Should prostitution be legal? I don't really have an opinion, one way or the other.
                      It should be decriminalized and discouraged like spittoons were and are.

                      As things stand in most of the US you can't have sex for money but you can have sex for barter, i.e. dinner and a movie.

                      And go figure porn stars who get paid to have sex with each other but can't pay each other for sex.

                      Therefore the public policy of criminalizing prostitution or sex for money doesn't logically compute or work.

                      Moreover, it will go on whether legalized or not hence the expression "...the oldest profession."

                      And the laws against it are for the most part only enforced against poor street walkers.

                      Rich call girls are almost never busted and when they are it's news because it's such a rare event.

                      And lets face it - most of Hollywood is just high price vice from Mae West to Marilyn Monroe to Pamela Anderson, etc.

                      What drives most young women into the sex trade is grinding poverty and limited opportunities.

                      End poverty or at least decrease it and you will see fewer women going into it.
                      Last edited by Sonny; 04-20-2014, 07:19 PM.

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