[rcoreyus]

His "getting it up" when he wants it may not be selfish at all - but some sort of psychological issue. One of the reasons some couples use artificial insemination to conceve is because the husband is unable to have sex (no erection, or no ejaculation), with his wife, but can masturbate.

The situation you describe is complicated. Don't know how the porn fits into it all. He may have become so addicted to porn that he can only be stimulated that way. Or it may be just a side issue.

Are there any other stresses in your lives? Is there a pregnancy issue (this can be a real problem for some men).

Sorry, no good suggestions.

[Hystorm]

Dump the bum and get a young stud!
Also, maybe start a new thread instead of high-jacking one.

Ahhhh.., ok got that off my chest...now back to topic...men bashing!

Kidding....sorta.

[Fallen1]

Dump the bum and get a young stud!
Also, maybe start a new thread instead of high-jacking one.

Ahhhh.., ok got that off my chest...now back to topic...men bashing!

Kidding....sorta.

Young studs sometimes can't keep up .... well mine can't anyway.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Why is it that women just can't accept things as they are... I believe that if all men stopped watching pornography suddenly there'd be a new thing to complain about, probably that his eyes aren't watching his feet whenever a pretty girl walks past.

Why is that many women who complain about their men watching a fantasy don't realise their hypocracy when they get physical pleasure from their vibrator or realistic black veined dildo or whatever.

Why is it women don't understand that we don't give a darn about these porn actresses.

Why won't women understand that pornography is just the physical manifestation of the way our minds work anyway - the same sordid stuff goes on in our mind, but you can't complain about something as intangible as thoughts so you blame pornography.

Why is it women don't understand and make allowances for the biological fact that men are programmed to approach and have sex with as many partners as possible, and that women are programmed to be selective about their suitor and nest to look after the family. It's an unbelievable achievement that religion has managed to change human nature as much as it has without the sancity of our very minds being questioned.

Women like to read erotic stories, this is THE SAME as watching porn. It's not different. Its getting erotic stimulation from elsewhere.

This is harsh, but I think this thread needs a little woman bashing to counter all the man-hate so far...


As for men always saying everything is womens fault... sometimes is is sometimes it isn't. On a personal note, when my girlfriend performed and we had a good sex session, it never crossed my mind to watch porn. This isn't to say that it's always the womans fault for not being sexual enough, but a lot of the time it is due to the males higher sex drive being unfulfilled.

I know that if my girlfriend was horney for sex maybe twice a day, and I ignored her all the time except maybe twice a week, I would expect her to find a way to please herself, as I wasn't doing it for her. I wouldn't mind her watching people have sex, or that she was riding a larger, permanantly erect, vibrating pleasure tool. If she had a poster of her favourite porn star on the wall and called out his name during sex, then yes, that would be pretty bad... BUT that isn't how men think about it AT ALL.

Personally, I simply blame biology - as that is what makes us all what we are. If practically all men do something that upsets women, is it each individual mans fault? Of course not, it's what they are. That's like saying we're all morally redundant people for being carnivores.

I think that a woman telling a man that he can't fantasize (and porn is just the tangible result of fantasy) is akin to a man telling his woman that she can't talk with any other men ever, because they'd all want to have sex with her. It's just ridiculousso you don't pay it too much credence even though you know that he'd rather you didn't do it.

Most of the men who post here have their uninformed
opinions which are so off the mark, one assumes the
reason they are here is because this woman's site is
the only place they get to talk to women.

More mindless man-hate from the leader of them all. Of course, men are less informed about MEN than the wishful thinking of a woman. Perhaps we're here to try and drive some reality into the fiction you try to create.

[Fallen1]

Anon, the first post in this thread -

Why is it that every time a woman gets upset over something her significant other does that hurts her, porn being the main "offense" I'm referring to, most men want to blame her hurt on her being insecure?
I'll agree that in some cases it very well may be the culprit behind her feelings but that isn't the case 100 % of the time.

I posted a simple thought/question. That's all I did. And it is based on truth. Most men do want to blame women's dislike of porn on insecurity(ies).

My intent was to pose a question based on observation ..... no where in my words is/was there any man bashing.

[Private.Flangeamin]

Yes !!! Reddiculousso...

Why is it that women just can't accept things as they are... I believe that if all men stopped watching pornography suddenly there'd be a new thing to complain about, probably that his eyes aren't watching his feet whenever a pretty girl walks past.

Why is that many women who complain about their men watching a fantasy don't realise their hypocracy when they get physical pleasure from their vibrator or realistic black veined dildo or whatever.

Why is it women don't understand that we don't give a darn about these porn actresses.

Why won't women understand that pornography is just the physical manifestation of the way our minds work anyway - the same sordid stuff goes on in our mind, but you can't complain about something as intangible as thoughts so you blame pornography.

Why is it women don't understand and make allowances for the biological fact that men are programmed to approach and have sex with as many partners as possible, and that women are programmed to be selective about their suitor and nest to look after the family. It's an unbelievable achievement that religion has managed to change human nature as much as it has without the sancity of our very minds being questioned.

Women like to read erotic stories, this is THE SAME as watching porn. It's not different. Its getting erotic stimulation from elsewhere.

This is harsh, but I think this thread needs a little woman bashing to counter all the man-hate so far...


As for men always saying everything is womens fault... sometimes is is sometimes it isn't. On a personal note, when my girlfriend performed and we had a good sex session, it never crossed my mind to watch porn. This isn't to say that it's always the womans fault for not being sexual enough, but a lot of the time it is due to the males higher sex drive being unfulfilled.

I know that if my girlfriend was horney for sex maybe twice a day, and I ignored her all the time except maybe twice a week, I would expect her to find a way to please herself, as I wasn't doing it for her. I wouldn't mind her watching people have sex, or that she was riding a larger, permanantly erect, vibrating pleasure tool. If she had a poster of her favourite porn star on the wall and called out his name during sex, then yes, that would be pretty bad... BUT that isn't how men think about it AT ALL.

Personally, I simply blame biology - as that is what makes us all what we are. If practically all men do something that upsets women, is it each individual mans fault? Of course not, it's what they are. That's like saying we're all morally redundant people for being carnivores.

I think that a woman telling a man that he can't fantasize (and porn is just the tangible result of fantasy) is akin to a man telling his woman that she can't talk with any other men ever, because they'd all want to have sex with her. It's just ridiculousso you don't pay it too much credence even though you know that he'd rather you didn't do it.



More mindless man-hate from the leader of them all. Of course, men are less informed about MEN than the wishful thinking of a woman. Perhaps we're here to try and drive some reality into the fiction you try to create.

YESSSS ...i know P.F signed out but really some things do spur a woman into making another post so ive placed mine with AWF's this debate will always be never ending and it will always be never ending that women find it hard to accept . Deary me !!! im not going to make any referances to anyone making posts ...as it does seem to get ladies a little mad ...and also i guess i would be going over a lot of old ground . To the ladies who have made so many posts on FEMALE masturbation...how to...how often...where ...how much they ENJOY IT ...just have a look at those read over them and if your aginst this realize how silly and insecure you make yourselves look and hypocrytical!!! ..No ...not mentioning names as its "not allowed" apparently ..but do look at those whopping amount of masturbation posts by FEMALES ...and how they enjoy nipping of for that quicky with there buzzing matey boy !!! or twiddling the old button whilst "hubby" is downstairs , asleep or at work ...or even when they are at work in the car bath or whatever else takes thier fancy . It is a FACT men masturbate and its also a FACT women especially married women DONT LIKE IT ...(regardless of whether they do it themselves or not ) and they do!! Im trying really hard not to go over old ground But its a fact that when you get married the woman and man cannot expect thier partner the man to find them as "hot as they did the first date they met (when they hadnt got in thier pants) 10 years on or indeedy MUCH LESS when that woman has had kids ...hangs round in old tracksuit no make up ...or indeed body has gone to pot shes fatter ,older ect or just the fact they are married things CHANGE . The guy i was talking about who i found out was married told me ...I DO NOT FIND MY WIFE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE ...he said yes i love her but I DONT DESIRE HER that he was bored ..shes available to sleep with anytime and no matter how she dresses up its still the same person ...thats one reason to teh women who say ..hey ...im goodlooking i work out i keep in shape ...it makes no difference the fact they are there AVAILABLE willing sometimes DESPERATE to please ...it makes no difference ...these women need to accept that ...you carnt expect that level of passion you had the night you met . Aso all the other reasons i mentioned when i talked about it before . What gets me is the hypocrosy ...look at those masturbation threads from women . Men need to have an outlet and men need to masturbate ...they are totally different from women if you dont want them to DATE A WOMAN then you can have someone just as honest as YOU????? the fact is it is that difference why you are with a man ! STOP TRYING TO FEMINIZE MEN or date a man who wants to become female and play with each other at least you wont have to do it on the sly... or in the spare room !!!

[Fallen1]

YESSSS ...i know P.F signed out but really some things do spur a woman into making another post so ive placed mine with AWF's this debate will always be never ending and it will always be never ending that women find it hard to accept . Deary me !!! im not going to make any referances to anyone making posts ...as it does seem to get ladies a little mad ...and also i guess i would be going over a lot of old ground . To the ladies who have made so many posts on FEMALE masturbation...how to...how often...where ...how much they ENJOY IT ...just have a look at those read over them and if your aginst this realize how silly and insecure you make yourselves look and hypocrytical!!! ..No ...not mentioning names as its "not allowed" apparently ..but do look at those whopping amount of masturbation posts by FEMALES ...and how they enjoy nipping of for that quicky with there buzzing matey boy !!! or twiddling the old button whilst "hubby" is downstairs , asleep or at work ...or even when they are at work in the car bath or whatever else takes thier fancy . It is a FACT men masturbate and its also a FACT women especially married women DONT LIKE IT ...(regardless of whether they do it themselves or not ) and they do!! Im trying really hard not to go over old ground But its a fact that when you get married the woman and man cannot expect thier partner the man to find them as "hot as they did the first date they met (when they hadnt got in thier pants) 10 years on or indeedy MUCH LESS when that woman has had kids ...hangs round in old tracksuit no make up ...or indeed body has gone to pot shes fatter ,older ect or just the fact they are married things CHANGE . The guy i was talking about who i found out was married told me ...I DO NOT FIND MY WIFE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE ...he said yes i love her but I DONT DESIRE HER that he was bored ..shes available to sleep with anytime and no matter how she dresses up its still the same person ...thats one reason to teh women who say ..hey ...im goodlooking i work out i keep in shape ...it makes no difference the fact they are there AVAILABLE willing sometimes DESPERATE to please ...it makes no difference ...these women need to accept that ...you carnt expect that level of passion you had the night you met . Aso all the other reasons i mentioned when i talked about it before . What gets me is the hypocrosy ...look at those masturbation threads from women . Men need to have an outlet and men need to masturbate ...they are totally different from women if you dont want them to DATE A WOMAN then you can have someone just as honest as YOU????? the fact is it is that difference why you are with a man ! STOP TRYING TO FEMINIZE MEN or date a man who wants to become female and play with each other at least you wont have to do it on the sly... or in the spare room !!!

Convinced even more .... a guy posing as a woman.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Men need to have an outlet and men need to masturbate ...they are totally different from women if you dont want them to DATE A WOMAN then you can have someone just as honest as YOU????? the fact is it is that difference why you are with a man ! STOP TRYING TO FEMINIZE MEN or date a man who wants to become female and play with each other at least you wont have to do it on the sly... or in the spare room !!!

Seems like you didn't leave after all, and been reading up on a few threads maybe you are wrong you do like it here, but maybe not for the "right" reasons.............???????? And love that's a lot about masterbation? I thought this thread was on Porn and insecurity / or / not?????

Needless to say, reading that word so many times then, has made me a "tad" well horny.....



CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

CANT SPELL IT?
Men need to have an outlet and men need to masturbate ...they are totally different from women if you dont want them to DATE A WOMAN then you can have someone just as honest as YOU????? the fact is it is that difference why you are with a man ! STOP TRYING TO FEMINIZE MEN or date a man who wants to become female and play with each other at least you wont have to do it on the sly... or in the spare room !!!

Seems like you didn't leave after all, and been reading up on a few threads maybe you are wrong you do like it here, but maybe not for the "right" reasons.............???????? And love that's a lot about masterbation? I thought this thread was on Porn and insecurity / or / not?????

Needless to say, reading that word so many times then, has made me a "tad" well horny.....



CW


Sorry forgot those quote things...

[Private.Flangeamin]

Convinced even more .... a guy posing as a woman.

I doubt it love ...i was katty1 before i got the ban have a look, and guys dont get nsome of the things i wrote about in the gyne section !! just had a lot of dates and get along better with men than woman . I did the pornography and prostitution thread ...a while back there are some rational women out here that ARE feminine ...perhaps your a man who knows ...you wil have to ask little about that one