[Fallen1]

No no no...im still cross with this.

I was in no way implying that just do one method for the rest of your life, that would be madness...i was trying to put the point across that you said oral was much better, sensationally, than vaginal. AND, you are still saying this...."stuck" with vaginal, interesting choice of words.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree here.

Miffed.

PS: I dont mean to offend either, i just think this is the most ridiculous and degrading thing ive ever heard.

Stuck? Yeah, still comes across as saying "well if that's all I've got I guess I'll have to take it".

Agreed ..... bad choice of words.

[Greydog72]

This is my personal opinion about the subject.

I give oral because I love to give something to my lover. I'm doing something that I know that she loves to get and I'm willing to do it FOR HER because I want to see her enjoy herself. I think its what you want to give and take. I love making love more because it is the only place that I can feel more connected to her. I get more than getting my rocks off, I also get emotionally satisfied. My wife hasn't performed oral on my in quite awhile and I would love for her to perform it on me, but I want her to decide. I've done the pleading and begging enough in the past and now I'm tired of that. If she ever does give me oral again, I will know that it is her decision to give me something that would make me feel like she is doing something for me. I've had great BJ's in the past I love the feeling and miss it, but I want more then that now. I want the satisfaction of my wifes BODY and soul. And know that I'm the only one for her is a big turn-on to me.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Also not to offend at all....

But, it seems that the kegal, and Miffed23 and my comments, which we all posted at the same time had a ring to it ?

It seemed that the reaction was " i didn't know that, so i'll give that a go", which seems to confirm that oral is a tighter fit?

Which is sad.

Purely because i don't know guys have a heart there. Women have children, so your "stuck with viginal sex", if she doesn't like oral.

But i am sure, if she dresses sexy, moans nicely, likes to be blindfolded, this is a major, major turn-on to you?

I think what is being said by "women" is that actually hurts, to feel that you guys prefer the tightness of our mouths over our........

It's a bit like us saying, well you never find "the spot", and you don't teeze you just do, and you don't use good positions, i have more fun masterbating?



Debating, not arguing nor mad... Wish i could be the last one, that would help me sometimes....

CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Fallen 1
I also disagree with the above. As far as the men I believe it was metboogie or maybe hystorm that said in an older thread that nothing compared to vaginal sex.

Oops forgot one, my mind is um, elsewhere........

CW

[damd]

last time

I think this will be the last time I post about this thread, I feel that I am being too defensive about the feedback to the responses that I am posting. First a question was posed by miffed 23 about "the best oral you ever recieved" and I think I answered it to the best of my ability. Another question was posed CW
"Is penetration more desirable or the BJ?". After my attempt to answer this question miffed 23 respond with.

"REALLY?? Oral is more enjoyable than vaginal for men?

I am completely bummed out by this. Pleeeease can someone disagree. So youre saying that if you could only chose one method for the rest of your life you would choose oral over vaginal?!

There is no possible way that this is the same for women, surely. Nothing beats penetration....oral is great, yes, but in comparison to sex sex...it doesnt come close.

Miffed <-----very distraught.


"
And my reponse was
"To answer that question, no I think BJ would be out forever and I would be stuck with vaginal for the rest of my life, which if that was the only way my wife and I could ever have sex, I would be happy."

So now my choice of the word "stuck" is under scrutiny. Well I might not be the most articulate person however, to continue what I said..

"To answer that question, no I think BJ would be out forever and I would be stuck with vaginal for the rest of my life, which if that was the only way my wife and I could ever have sex, I would be happy. However, that would be a tradgedy. Because both oral and anal are exciting. And intermixing oral, as I stated before, while having sex is absolutely great."

My wife and I try to have an exciting sexual relationship mixed with variaty of methods and positions. To be limited to just one method would be a tradgey and yes I believe one would feel "STUCK" to a same routine if that was the scenario.

Sorry for being defensive, just felt like I was being crucified for giving an opinion that many did not want to hear.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Chandler, it's not about tightness, it's just overall a completely different and lovely sensation. If sex is alcohol, it would be a shame to only be able to drink beer, not wine and whisky etc... Variety is the spice of life. It's also about "me time"... No pressure, just uttlerly relax.

I will never be in a relationship devoid of oral sex.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

damd
However, that would be a tradgedy. Because both oral and anal are exciting. And intermixing oral, as I stated before, while having sex is absolutely great."

Yes you did say that. Yes, as women, we pick a "puppy" from the litter which was STUCK...

I understood the sensation side, just didn't want to feel that in "general" guys thought that we were too..... and so our mouths are better, well, women are senstitive...(Smile)... Frankly, if you could never go there again you'd miss it, lol.. I understand preference is preference, you are talking about stimulation, how it feels.

AnonChandler, it's not about tightness, it's just overall a completely different and lovely sensation. If sex is alcohol, it would be a shame to only be able to drink beer, not wine and whisky etc... Variety is the spice of life. It's also about "me time"... No pressure, just uttlerly relax.

Well, then i don't feel so............ it so sounded like tightness............... not having any kids, i'm probably defensive myself in that regard, as C, started mentioning Kegal excersises and then i guess we all started to feel what? Do you guys think?

But as i said, i DO understand the sensation side... And, thanks for bringing that back to the fore-mind of the lay back and enjoy side... i guess your not having to do that 90% work load there, no pressure as you state, it's your turn.. So in that example, oral would be better for a man... pure luxury, me time.... fair call....

I will never be in a relationship devoid of oral sex.

Me neither.... giving and taking, equality i feel, .....

[miffed23]

Im almost done with this.

Damd - can you at least visual it from a womans point of view?

Oral is great yea, i get that, a mixture is great, yea i get that too. But, what youre blatantly saying is that you much much much prefer oral to vaginal. This is degrading....i see it as you might as well be with a man then. A man has a mouth, a man has an anus.....the only physical component that differenciates us for you is a vagina...and youre saying that you would be stuck with this and oh, what a tradgedy.

Its like me saying, screw you.... i dont need your penis, id rather you use your fingers. Your penis does **** all for me.

Are you starting to understand or are you still adiment that a vagina is like sh*gging a senseless bucket?

[rcoreyus]

Its really difficult to figure out why people (including ones self) like things. I love oral - but is that because it feels different / better, or just because it is something I can almost never have? The forbidden becomes desirable.

I don't think oral vs. vaginal should be considered degrading. In some of the posts on this group, women have suggested than men performaing oral on them is an effective way to reach orgasm.

As far as oral an anal being the same if given by a man or woman - its a really good question. Imagine if you (as a woman) were blindfolded and receiving excellent oral from your partner - then you removed the blindfold and found out it had been a woman performing on you. (Those of you who are Bi might say "great", but that's not my point ). I think most straight men who discovered that they were receiving oral from another man, not a woman would freak. Even if they had been stimulated to a wonderful orgasm before they found out they would freak.

[Fallen1]

I don't think oral vs. vaginal should be considered degrading. In some of the posts on this group, women have suggested than men performaing oral on them is an effective way to reach orgasm.

I can see where the ruffled feathers came in.

I think the trigger here was the use of the word "stuck". It not that it sounds degrading but that it sounds like you're having to settle for something.

"Hey man you're lucky, you're wifes got a mouth but I'm stuck here with this old vagina"

But I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt here and say that I'm sure that's not how it was meant. Just a poorly chosen word.