[CHANDLERS WISH]

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Attack of the killer whale was a great movie!!!

Katty1, i just want to say, that i've been on this site only for around 6 weeks, addicted actually, but you know, i have read many a post that has shown a real help to these people on the Forum of what Caroline has written in her "explicide words"...

And, yep, some people may not like the full monty of information, if not they know not to read her replies... But, it's been a great asset to me to be honest with you... and i had trouble reading them firstly as she is just well, so different but a difference with a lot of love that i can see and i commend her to be honest for telling it how she sees it, as it is how she feels and feelings are the most important thing in life a gift where passion is concerned.

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We have all stated our insecurities on here, including Caroline but then we have all shown our confidence.

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Its just excitement of when you find yourself in life where you have never been before, i am the second person on this Forum that has told that i to have ejaculated recently twice and how that felt, it's a woman's forum.

It truly is a great place Katty1...

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I recently wrote back to ANON, regarding the difference of young prostitutes that he knows and the older ones that Caroline mentioned and that both were correct if you perhaps look at that age difference, as to why the feel the way they may feel?

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Work your way around the site, and read the posts over the past 6 months or so from all, we are all different but there has been great advice and each to their own opinion i think on descriptions, i don't use it in that fashion but i tell a simular story sometimes, when i'm brave...

I do think you need to read more here as truly you are judging and i really didn't want to get involved here but i think credit where it's due to be honest and i like what Caroline writes, if it's to much for me at that time, i by pass but often go back and look anyway, it's a way of learning...

CW

[katty1]

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Attack of the killer whale was a great movie!!!

Katty1, i just want to say, that i've been on this site only for around 6 weeks, addicted actually, but you know, i have read many a post that has shown a real help to these people on the Forum of what Caroline has written in her "explicide words"...

And, yep, some people may not like the full monty of information, if not they know not to read her replies... But, it's been a great asset to me to be honest with you... and i had trouble reading them firstly as she is just well, so different but a difference with a lot of love that i can see and i commend her to be honest for telling it how she sees it, as it is how she feels and feelings are the most important thing in life a gift where passion is concerned.

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We have all stated our insecurities on here, including Caroline but then we have all shown our confidence.

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Its just excitement of when you find yourself in life where you have never been before, i am the second person on this Forum that has told that i to have ejaculated recently twice and how that felt, it's a woman's forum.

It truly is a great place Katty1...

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I recently wrote back to ANON, regarding the difference of young prostitutes that he knows and the older ones that Caroline mentioned and that both were correct if you perhaps look at that age difference, as to why the feel the way they may feel?

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Work your way around the site, and read the posts over the past 6 months or so from all, we are all different but there has been great advice and each to their own opinion i think on descriptions, i don't use it in that fashion but i tell a simular story sometimes, when i'm brave...

I do think you need to read more here as truly you are judging and i really didn't want to get involved here but i think credit where it's due to be honest and i like what Caroline writes, if it's to much for me at that time, i by pass but often go back and look anyway, it's a way of learning...

CW

Hi Chandlers Wish - thanks for your post - im going to have to make make my comments regarding caroline in my post to you she said dont read my posts anymore and i wont and i have no interest in replying . She was rude and nasty so hey ! if you give it out she should be able to take it back !! If you check ...caroline still isnt able to explain the porn film issue! it seems to me she cannot deal with even the *thought* that her husband might want or have the desire to masurbate !! basically ...what im saying is HOW WOULD SHE LIKE IT if the shoe was on the other foot ??? if her husband made it his business to check (and its hard for man to check if a woman has been masturbating ie: NO EVIDENCE ) there isnt any but if he constantly hassled her asking do you or have you been masturbating going on and on to the rediculous point of arguments ...paranoia ..insecurity ...i find this whole attiute to this BIZARRE!! whats the big deal : annonwhitefemale summed it up perfectly and thanks again by the way im SO glad of the MALE input men are masturbating GET OVER IT CAROLINE !! caroline states she knows for a FACT her husband does not masturbate ...if she says that id like to know HOW she knows ...if carolines husband thinks it would anoy her or upset her OF COURSE hes not going to admit it hes going to do it secretly (AND HE HAS DONE ) as she states she caught him masturbating to porn ...but lets get real here!! hes been cought once so hes going to do his best to make sure he dosent get cought doing it agiain THATS OBVIOUS dosent mean hes stopped doing it ...im not putting it on the same level but its like husbands who have affairs if the wife said are you seeing someone else OF COURSE hes not going to admit it is he what man with any sense would??? she also said she watched porn and she also has three or four she hasnt watched put away ...BUT in the next sentance she says WE DONT *NEED* PORN ...ok if you dont *need* it why have it in the house ? why not chuck into the garbage? and if they dont need it why were they watching it? isnt it just cruel and controlling to have these unwatched films that she prob knows her husband wants to see (on his own) in her home ....and i really do find her behaviour coming across as very very controlling ...agin back to masturbation issue they (her and her husband) are suppossed to be so open minded about sex but why is she masturbating (secretly) with a dildo !!! agin she has said he wont accept her doing it thats also SELFISH she does it anyway and takes no notice of him ...so dosent she think her husbands taking no notice of her and hes doing it ...you can bet thats the case ...!! regarding porn i think she really does have a massive jelousy problem she carnt deal with the fact she is ageing and shes going to get older we all do ...shes not 19 anymore ..deal with it !!! and as ive always said and its been like that from since time began A WOMAN CANNOT COMPEAT WITH YOUTH someone more younger and more beautiful think of men having affairs say the wife is 50 the mistress 30 !! or younger why do you think men do that its natural for them to lust after younger nubile women and perhaps because they havent had kids they are tighter (however many operations on the vagina to make it tight and plastic surgery the wife has ...there is a MEGA difference between the body of a young woman to that of a woman approaching menopause !! thats obvoius !! i still say she comes across as TRYING TOO HARD ...trying too hard to please (that can be a turn off for most men) its as though she constantly wants reassurance shes .."sexy" hot and however else she trys to portray herself ....i think we need a reality check !!! im not trying to be nasty caroline was nasty with me and didnt answer my questions i hit the rore nerve !!! im going with annon white female we need more male opinions (i dont ) because i feel i know the score on this issue !! men masturbate they love to look at porn !! i loved my ex the French guy hes now back in france we met while he was working here id say we had some pretty hot sex ! if you knowits hot people shouldnt feel the need to constantly tell people hey ! im having hot sex !!! i dont think that they are as open with each other despite what she says as they should be there is a lot of control issues going on ..my apologies chandlers wish as i didnt say anything back to this post that you have said its rude of me , sorry ...i dont know everyones different !!

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Hi Katty1, I pretty much read all that you wrote back to me, allthough you may like to use paragraphs to make it easier to read. Look, please take this in the right way, if Caroline wishes that you don't read her posts or reply, please don't use my name to get your points back across to her, through me. As i said, please take that in the right way. So as such, i am not going to reply to your thoughts as they are your thoughts and not directed to me. I can only tell you what i know of from reading threads and posts here. If two people have been married for 50 years, and they are very very close, have an excellent communication, then i would bet money on it that they talk about everything and know everything about each other including what they do and don't do. They either are trying to find their way back into that honeymoon stage that they once had, or they already have found it and are looking for ways of improvement. The only difference being is both parties are willing parties. Now, if they do find that phase again, why not act like children and be excited over it? So many marriages fail because of the loss of it and it is encouraging for me anyway to know that if i find, i can have that for at least 30 years, maybe 40, so for me what i learn is not only what i have to look forward to but the importance and how to maintain that for that length of time, so i don't become a stastisic of those woman who say na, headache, na don't touch me..... what ever. Age is all a matter of belief, you are as old as the woman you feel, you are as old as you feel and more power to them. As i said, it's an interesting forum and great advice and heart warming stories, sad stories and it's about support and help and discussion. If you can open a door to someone, help them see something they never saw, give an opinion that they never thought of that may provide the answer, be there and support them through pain, offer encouragement when they need it, stuff up when your wrong, be 44 and laugh your head of because you thought the G-Spot was the cervix and say so, because you are not ashamed as we are all a form of a family in our own way, then that is well worth running around here daily, just look at the amount of posts i have done in such a short time... We don't take offense or shouldn't because we are talking to a computer, we do not know the person at the other end really do we, or how they think, why they state their "opinion" and they may say one thing and then after reading something, think and change their thought pattern as they grow and learn. People state their "Opinions" bluntly, loosly, silly, all sorts, as you are correct we are all different people. Enjoy your time here that's all. Help where you can help, support where you can support, create when you want opinions, or answers and take it lightly as life is beautiful and should be enjoyed, and everyone should enjoy and feel that enjoyment. CW

[katty1]

Hi Chandlers Wish - thanks for your post - im going to have to make make my comments regarding caroline in my post to you she said dont read my posts anymore and i wont and i have no interest in replying . She was rude and nasty so hey ! if you give it out she should be able to take it back !! If you check ...caroline still isnt able to explain the porn film issue! it seems to me she cannot deal with even the *thought* that her husband might want or have the desire to masurbate !! basically ...what im saying is HOW WOULD SHE LIKE IT if the shoe was on the other foot ??? if her husband made it his business to check (and its hard for man to check if a woman has been masturbating ie: NO EVIDENCE ) there isnt any but if he constantly hassled her asking do you or have you been masturbating going on and on to the rediculous point of arguments ...paranoia ..insecurity ...i find this whole attiute to this BIZARRE!! whats the big deal : annonwhitefemale summed it up perfectly and thanks again by the way im SO glad of the MALE input men are masturbating GET OVER IT CAROLINE !! caroline states she knows for a FACT her husband does not masturbate ...if she says that id like to know HOW she knows ...if carolines husband thinks it would anoy her or upset her OF COURSE hes not going to admit it hes going to do it secretly (AND HE HAS DONE ) as she states she caught him masturbating to porn ...but lets get real here!! hes been cought once so hes going to do his best to make sure he dosent get cought doing it agiain THATS OBVIOUS dosent mean hes stopped doing it ...im not putting it on the same level but its like husbands who have affairs if the wife said are you seeing someone else OF COURSE hes not going to admit it is he what man with any sense would??? she also said she watched porn and she also has three or four she hasnt watched put away ...BUT in the next sentance she says WE DONT *NEED* PORN ...ok if you dont *need* it why have it in the house ? why not chuck into the garbage? and if they dont need it why were they watching it? isnt it just cruel and controlling to have these unwatched films that she prob knows her husband wants to see (on his own) in her home ....and i really do find her behaviour coming across as very very controlling ...agin back to masturbation issue they (her and her husband) are suppossed to be so open minded about sex but why is she masturbating (secretly) with a dildo !!! agin she has said he wont accept her doing it thats also SELFISH she does it anyway and takes no notice of him ...so dosent she think her husbands taking no notice of her and hes doing it ...you can bet thats the case ...!! regarding porn i think she really does have a massive jelousy problem she carnt deal with the fact she is ageing and shes going to get older we all do ...shes not 19 anymore ..deal with it !!! and as ive always said and its been like that from since time began A WOMAN CANNOT COMPEAT WITH YOUTH someone more younger and more beautiful think of men having affairs say the wife is 50 the mistress 30 !! or younger why do you think men do that its natural for them to lust after younger nubile women and perhaps because they havent had kids they are tighter (however many operations on the vagina to make it tight and plastic surgery the wife has ...there is a MEGA difference between the body of a young woman to that of a woman approaching menopause !! thats obvoius !! i still say she comes across as TRYING TOO HARD ...trying too hard to please (that can be a turn off for most men) its as though she constantly wants reassurance shes .."sexy" hot and however else she trys to portray herself ....i think we need a reality check !!! im not trying to be nasty caroline was nasty with me and didnt answer my questions i hit the rore nerve !!! im going with annon white female we need more male opinions (i dont ) because i feel i know the score on this issue !! men masturbate they love to look at porn !! i loved my ex the French guy hes now back in france we met while he was working here id say we had some pretty hot sex ! if you knowits hot people shouldnt feel the need to constantly tell people hey ! im having hot sex !!! i dont think that they are as open with each other despite what she says as they should be there is a lot of control issues going on ..my apologies chandlers wish as i didnt say anything back to this post that you have said its rude of me , sorry ...i dont know everyones different !!

Just like to add one more thing ...i carnt remember exactly the words that caroline said so forgive me if i dont say it exactly the sme as she said it ...previous post she said quote caroline YOU STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND TWO PEOPLE IN LOVE !! two people can be DEEPLY in love ive been very much in love and had passion my parents have been married since they were both ages 23 and 24 they have good a wonderful loving marriage and are still together loving each other as much as they did the day they met ...i have a great relationship with my mum and dad and CHOSE to live a a street away from them . So i DO understand love caroline ive been in love and i know what love is ..but theres so so much more to real love than sex its about being there for each other through all the difficulties, illnesses with kids partners where money is not in great abundance we are not "wealthy" people but we see (mum dad my brother and myself) that to be blessed with good health , love and respect and learning not to expect to much out of life to be contented with what you have as the most important things ...ive never seen my parents touchy feely or sexual with each other of course they must be ...but caroline i do understand two people in love ive had a life too !!

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Just like to add one more thing ...i carnt remember exactly the words that caroline said so forgive me if i dont say it exactly the sme as she said it ...previous post she said quote caroline YOU STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND TWO PEOPLE IN LOVE !! two people can be DEEPLY in love ive been very much in love and had passion my parents have been married since they were both ages 23 and 24 they have good a wonderful loving marriage and are still together loving each other as much as they did the day they met ...i have a great relationship with my mum and dad and CHOSE to live a a street away from them . So i DO understand love caroline ive been in love and i know what love is ..but theres so so much more to real love than sex its about being there for each other through all the difficulties, illnesses with kids partners where money is not in great abundance we are not "wealthy" people but we see (mum dad my brother and myself) that to be blessed with good health , love and respect and learning not to expect to much out of life to be contented with what you have as the most important things ...ive never seen my parents touchy feely or sexual with each other of course they must be ...but caroline i do understand two people in love ive had a life too !!

I'm sitting here starving at 3pm in the afternoon!!! So now i'm eating...

I know you posted this before you read my previous post as i know that you would have just posted, not used Chandlers Wish again.

Yes, love is beautiful and real but you know, it can happen for some people only once then they spend the rest of their life searching again for it and can't find it.

Yes, it touches the soul and that is beautiful of course, and as for your parents having sex, who knows, they may be ones whom have very very infrequent sex as their relationship is now based on friendship or they could be he and she devils for all you know, i'm just glad i don't know too much about mine that would be hard to visualise..... And, trust me i am great at visualising.

I was thinking after you wrote this part and where you are looking at this, love is "relationships/ dating / husband and wife / general " and sex is well "sex"...

So, the touchy feeling expressions are expressed on the other thread areas and the sex is expressed in the sex forum and that is where people can go wild and express if you know what i mean.

As i said before, some say it subtley, some say it with words, some read everything take it in and practice and say nothing, and every now and then i see one pop up and go Huh? I would never have thought she had that in her / or him, based on them replying mainly through other thread areas...

So, again, i can only say work your way through, chill, dont be personal or take things personally.

I have changed myself since joining here as i have a much better understanding on how people communicate here, the difference between if i can say Little, Americans to Australians to English.. The difference in words and how that effects different people.

Sure men will all agree on masterbation, but there is also nothing wrong if a woman feels ( over the past 3 years from that experience that is all so new to her) that she can do it all and he doesn't need to, i mean that would be a mans fantasy wouldn't it, total bliss 24/7 neither work, they have all the time they need. So again, it's all good and again, an opinion of what works for one doesn't always work for another.

I am very pleased Katty1, that after your ordeal had at such a young age and your mature decision which was your decision alone to make, that you have been around guys that watch porn, are gay, been if i recall in a bi sexual relationship as in he was bi and you went out with him, and been in love with a French Man.

That, if you read some of my threads where abuse was made, almost raped, is a confident woman standing tall and going foward without much of a scratch other than possibly deep, but certainly a grounded woman with much love to give and want and desire.. I am truly thrilled as not many of us can do that as women.

But also, being married or living with a guy or never being there, is also very very different as far as the extent of communication and knowledge of each other in totality, what they think, feel, do, as when you are married you do know a **** load more about the person, or when you live with them, i know, 8 years remember, very different than just having a boyfriend or fiance...

Frankly, i like the on-going lust instead of cooking meals and washing their jocks, so i may play this differently this time round.

Lastly, i will say one thing for Caroline this time, she knows that there is more than just sex, she is in her sexual peak, he had difficulties and she chose to do what ever she had to to keep him up, so to speak and it worked and as a result she is walking around daily sexually charged but she also collects Antiques, loves her dogs, cooks for him, hugs him, goes away with him, for drives, etc, so of course she knows love, 50 years of it, as i said, it is so hard to comprehend their age and where they are at, love struck teenagers but cute it's more the manorism of her speach that maybe you don't like, but other's do and then some don't, everyone is different.

Get to know her through here, you will soon feel differently over time, she is gratsious however you spell it and backs down if she feels she is wrong, and confident if she feels she is right, she has an opinion... Lord knows the challenges we went through at the beginning but on the same accord, lord knows the equality of where we both were coming from and the enjoyment of that together sharing in our own different way.

That is all i am saying on that, because maybe you may understand that unless you have been here for a while and read what she writes on other matters / relationships etc, then and only then can you gage what type of person she may be or thinks, other than that, it's called judgement, you read a few things and then judge...

I hope that all makes a lot of sense.

Now let it go and start again, i say.....

CW

[C]

I'm sitting here starving at 3pm in the afternoon!!! So now i'm eating...

I know you posted this before you read my previous post as i know that you would have just posted, not used Chandlers Wish again.

Yes, love is beautiful and real but you know, it can happen for some people only once then they spend the rest of their life searching again for it and can't find it.

Yes, it touches the soul and that is beautiful of course, and as for your parents having sex, who knows, they may be ones whom have very very infrequent sex as their relationship is now based on friendship or they could be he and she devils for all you know, i'm just glad i don't know too much about mine that would be hard to visualise..... And, trust me i am great at visualising.

I was thinking after you wrote this part and where you are looking at this, love is "relationships/ dating / husband and wife / general " and sex is well "sex"...

So, the touchy feeling expressions are expressed on the other thread areas and the sex is expressed in the sex forum and that is where people can go wild and express if you know what i mean.

As i said before, some say it subtley, some say it with words, some read everything take it in and practice and say nothing, and every now and then i see one pop up and go Huh? I would never have thought she had that in her / or him, based on them replying mainly through other thread areas...

So, again, i can only say work your way through, chill, dont be personal or take things personally.

I have changed myself since joining here as i have a much better understanding on how people communicate here, the difference between if i can say Little, Americans to Australians to English.. The difference in words and how that effects different people.

Sure men will all agree on masterbation, but there is also nothing wrong if a woman feels ( over the past 3 years from that experience that is all so new to her) that she can do it all and he doesn't need to, i mean that would be a mans fantasy wouldn't it, total bliss 24/7 neither work, they have all the time they need. So again, it's all good and again, an opinion of what works for one doesn't always work for another.

I am very pleased Katty1, that after your ordeal had at such a young age and your mature decision which was your decision alone to make, that you have been around guys that watch porn, are gay, been if i recall in a bi sexual relationship as in he was bi and you went out with him, and been in love with a French Man.

That, if you read some of my threads where abuse was made, almost raped, is a confident woman standing tall and going foward without much of a scratch other than possibly deep, but certainly a grounded woman with much love to give and want and desire.. I am truly thrilled as not many of us can do that as women.

But also, being married or living with a guy or never being there, is also very very different as far as the extent of communication and knowledge of each other in totality, what they think, feel, do, as when you are married you do know a **** load more about the person, or when you live with them, i know, 8 years remember, very different than just having a boyfriend or fiance...

Frankly, i like the on-going lust instead of cooking meals and washing their jocks, so i may play this differently this time round.

Lastly, i will say one thing for Caroline this time, she knows that there is more than just sex, she is in her sexual peak, he had difficulties and she chose to do what ever she had to to keep him up, so to speak and it worked and as a result she is walking around daily sexually charged but she also collects Antiques, loves her dogs, cooks for him, hugs him, goes away with him, for drives, etc, so of course she knows love, 50 years of it, as i said, it is so hard to comprehend their age and where they are at, love struck teenagers but cute it's more the manorism of her speach that maybe you don't like, but other's do and then some don't, everyone is different.

Get to know her through here, you will soon feel differently over time, she is gratsious however you spell it and backs down if she feels she is wrong, and confident if she feels she is right, she has an opinion... Lord knows the challenges we went through at the beginning but on the same accord, lord knows the equality of where we both were coming from and the enjoyment of that together sharing in our own different way.

That is all i am saying on that, because maybe you may understand that unless you have been here for a while and read what she writes on other matters / relationships etc, then and only then can you gage what type of person she may be or thinks, other than that, it's called judgement, you read a few things and then judge...

I hope that all makes a lot of sense.

Now let it go and start again, i say.....

CW

Honey, tell her to read my posts I don't care...I will try once more to get through to her....but on this thread...

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Honey, tell her to read my posts I don't care...I will try once more to get through to her....but on this thread...

I'm truly hungry you two....

I am just going to say one last thing:-


Katty1, really really read what i wrong, go to sleep wake up and read it then over a coffee, it makes sense.

You know the saying " don't judge a book by it's cover"...

Both eat humble pie like i have had to do before on here " that's my opinion"....

And (C) answered your other thread, i have grown so much over the past month truly, things are seen with so much more clarity in life on all aspects of it.

And, i would not reply further if i had a choice to provide you with "my opinion".

A new thread is warranted i believe, just not sure what to call it? Maybe, how long it gets to know people or something? Have to think,

Both take care...

CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

WHAT I wrote not wrong, sorry!!!

[katty1]

Hi Katty1, I pretty much read all that you wrote back to me, allthough you may like to use paragraphs to make it easier to read. Look, please take this in the right way, if Caroline wishes that you don't read her posts or reply, please don't use my name to get your points back across to her, through me. As i said, please take that in the right way. So as such, i am not going to reply to your thoughts as they are your thoughts and not directed to me. I can only tell you what i know of from reading threads and posts here. If two people have been married for 50 years, and they are very very close, have an excellent communication, then i would bet money on it that they talk about everything and know everything about each other including what they do and don't do. They either are trying to find their way back into that honeymoon stage that they once had, or they already have found it and are looking for ways of improvement. The only difference being is both parties are willing parties. Now, if they do find that phase again, why not act like children and be excited over it? So many marriages fail because of the loss of it and it is encouraging for me anyway to know that if i find, i can have that for at least 30 years, maybe 40, so for me what i learn is not only what i have to look forward to but the importance and how to maintain that for that length of time, so i don't become a stastisic of those woman who say na, headache, na don't touch me..... what ever. Age is all a matter of belief, you are as old as the woman you feel, you are as old as you feel and more power to them. As i said, it's an interesting forum and great advice and heart warming stories, sad stories and it's about support and help and discussion. If you can open a door to someone, help them see something they never saw, give an opinion that they never thought of that may provide the answer, be there and support them through pain, offer encouragement when they need it, stuff up when your wrong, be 44 and laugh your head of because you thought the G-Spot was the cervix and say so, because you are not ashamed as we are all a form of a family in our own way, then that is well worth running around here daily, just look at the amount of posts i have done in such a short time... We don't take offense or shouldn't because we are talking to a computer, we do not know the person at the other end really do we, or how they think, why they state their "opinion" and they may say one thing and then after reading something, think and change their thought pattern as they grow and learn. People state their "Opinions" bluntly, loosly, silly, all sorts, as you are correct we are all different people. Enjoy your time here that's all. Help where you can help, support where you can support, create when you want opinions, or answers and take it lightly as life is beautiful and should be enjoyed, and everyone should enjoy and feel that enjoyment. CW

the thing is CH your backing Caroline up arent you and i bet its because its hit a rore nerve with you ...i mean your divorced arent you there must still and i understand that fully be some pain assoiciated with that . Look ..i wrote the piece and i knew as i was typing it i was going to get the "backlash" it was obvious it was going to get on the **** of some of the women reading it . As i say im new to posting although ive had PC or 6 or 7 years ...i started posting because i was posting on a health forum because my ex (french guy) unfortunately gave me chymydia and i developed PID...im ...but im not bitter as you can tell ...it i chanced upon this forum made a few postings in the gyne section and that led to sex forum and here i am !!! ...i knew when i posted it ...that either id get a load of feminists or get women ranting on about this and that because basically they either have an idea hes watching porn ect or they are upset and annoyed because they think or they are suspicious theyre "man" is either seeing another woman visiting a prositute (and im telling you you wouldnt believe how many men happily married ar doing this and theyre wife has NO idea) any man who has a pc can be waching porn the problem is the women who fall to pieces at the mere idea he *could be* instead of posting to females on this subject and if you notice ive already had a post from a lady THANKING ME ...it was lovely of her but there is nothing to thank me for ....so she was accepting of it ...porn and her husband! your used to posting CH ...but i think in future if i do decide to carry on posting and i can do id prefer to post to men on this matter ....it seems it really just winds women up ! whats the problem ....and you are backing up caroline coz you have been posting with her on the forum for ages why not let her speak for herself !! i think its touched a rore nerve with you too and im sorry you feel that way ...but both of you still cannot comment on what i said ...your sliding round the issue ...i spent a lot of time posting tonight and im truely typed out ...so thats my lot frankly i dont know why i posted in first place i can accept it porn/masturbation issue its obvious others carnt handle it !! best of luck with your boyfriend hope it all works out for you

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Just like to add one more thing ...i carnt remember exactly the words that caroline said so forgive me if i dont say it exactly the sme as she said it ...previous post she said quote caroline YOU STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND TWO PEOPLE IN LOVE !! two people can be DEEPLY in love ive been very much in love and had passion my parents have been married since they were both ages 23 and 24 they have good a wonderful loving marriage and are still together loving each other as much as they did the day they met ...i have a great relationship with my mum and dad and CHOSE to live a a street away from them . So i DO understand love caroline ive been in love and i know what love is ..but theres so so much more to real love than sex its about being there for each other through all the difficulties, illnesses with kids partners where money is not in great abundance we are not "wealthy" people but we see (mum dad my brother and myself) that to be blessed with good health , love and respect and learning not to expect to much out of life to be contented with what you have as the most important things ...ive never seen my parents touchy feely or sexual with each other of course they must be ...but caroline i do understand two people in love ive had a life too !!

Katty: I wish you no malice...Life is too short...This is what I know of Porn and how I refer to it..

I would like to explain something...In many posts I have stated that I am his Porn Queen. Thinking about it this sounds kind of sl*tty yet I never meant it like this...This is far from what I am...How I came up with this is that other than Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee that was the only Porn that I had ever seen and I guess that was not Porn but simply life...So I really had a lot to learn....

After Orlando I had a thirst for sexual knowledge...It went on and on as I knew absolutely nothing about vibrators and everything else. Among the things I ordered were these movies...I guess I was pretty much like a kid in a candy store but soon to learn that when you eat your fill of candy, it can get you sick...And it kind of did...It did not repulse me but it was not our cup of tea...The first movie we saw was some kind of movie where some woman had a dress and it showed many women trying it on...Each was a different woman...Among the scenes was a woman in a bed that put her legs high in the air and did very sexual things...I sat there in shock as I watched it.....I did these things. This new person that I had become was wild as a marsh hare and the shock stayed until I talked to Patti. Hey, let's face it I am older but over night I turned young and this was hard for me to accept. I had broken free to be what a woman should be after all the years of being in a straight jacket. So now I refer to myself as Porn because it got worse or from my husband's words better. The shackles of shame that holds so many women bondage, I have been able to cast off. All women have them..Some so bad that they must stay under the covers during sex. Some want the lights off. Some will not undress in front of their men...Some will only do missionary and the list goes on and on. Saying this I had to learn a new me...I had to accept this new person that I was and love her to death...Just because I did not act like an older person became kind of a challenge...My age is my age but my sexuality is that of women who are younger...I have no age. This is all part of what has happened to me...And God help me I love it..

Now about my husband...He does not masturbate...He never has..If he wanted to so be it but he doesn't...BUT if I found him in front of a computer jacking off I would be furious...I am his wife...I would not allow it anymore then he would allow me to watch a naked man and masturbate...You see, we are a matching set. We join at the rib..You say your parents are in love, well whatever they are we are many more years more of passion and the depth of love that you cannot begin to imagine. How can I pretend to be young when my mind and my body already is..My hair has gotten thicker, I have not aged, I need no lubricant and have not for three years...and can be sexual at any time of the day..How could a person write of passion if they were not in passion.. There is no way that my husband would ever take anything from me...We talked once and I never told him that I would have taken him back if he cheated but he informed me that if I ever did I was out the door....I know my husband...I would be out the door...He is the neatest and sexiest hunk in the world...A great lover and I would die for him on this spot as he would die for me...

If you want me to say I am his lover instead of his Porn Queen I will....but I know what I do...Brag no...Happy yes....Afraid of old age...Aren't we all...But not afraid to die...But the two of us pray one thing....that we will die in each other's arms making love....Pretty hot...

I just had a hint of what you said with my sexual language...It is our bedroom talk...I love it...It has turned me on and drives him wild..Am I ashamed of it....absolutely not.....When you are this age and you have a man that can't keep his hands off you.....you are indeed blessed...Now let's cut this cra* and keep the Forum the way it is supposed to me...TC, C

And thanks CW....xox