[CurlyQ]

Good luck. Have fun.
let me know how it goes.

I can't believe I was brave enough to go through with it.
I was so nervous but once we started making out I calmed down.
I was so into it.
I want more.

[WaveRider]

Hi muffin70,

I've tried to envision my g/f doing another dude in front of me. I know she wants a threesome with another dude. While I can envision the act, I can't predict how it'd change our relationship. She has told me that she's always loved to be naked with men she's dated. Nudity does not bother me in the least. Her naked in front of another dude or dudes wouldn't affect me. I probably could be good watching another dude banging her rains out. Her giving another dude head might, especially if he were to cum in her mouth. She does love to give head. I would probably be good were a dude to have anal sex with her. According to her, she's an anal sex expert. I've never had anal sex with her. I've taken her at her word.

A substantial concern would be STD's. So it'd have to be a dude whom were certain is STD free. That would eliminate a stranger.

My g/f is extremely sexual. I've always encouraged her to explore the boundaries of her sexuality. I'd hate to deny her an experience she desires. Knowing how horny she is, she'd probably want threesomes regularly. This is not BS: she can have sex for hours.

I've know dudes who have shared their wives or girlfriends. It seems that the experience of threesomes enhances relationships.

[WaveRider]

Hi amy40,

For some reason, nudity doesn't bother me. I'd imagine it'd be matter of personal comfort.

My ex-wife used to be the first one naked and in our pool. After skinny dipping, she'd remain naked for the rest of the night. Our friends at that time were all good with it. She did have a great body. When everyone's naked, no one cares.

The woman I'm seeing now is a subtle exhibitionist. She has no problem being naked in front of men. She was naked in our friend's jacuzzi last weekend. She didn't care. I do think that my friend's g/f was getting jealous. It's a long story. She's very lucky that she's dating my friend. He has a lot of $$$. She has none. So she's very protective of her relationship with him. My friend has told my g/f that he wanted to bang her brains out. If both hadn't been extremely drunk, who knows what might've happened.

[amy40]

The woman I'm seeing now is a subtle exhibitionist.

not an exhibitionist here, however, when Spencer Tunick came to a city fairly close to us, I talked to husband about maybe doing it and seriously considered it...........because it was art

chickened out, though

[amy40]

nudity aside, still wouldn't do a threesome and share husband

[WaveRider]

Good Morning, amy40,

My advice, which ain't worth a whole lot, is to always do what's right for you.

Exhibitionism is a common female fantasy.

As for wife swapping, what grates on me is that once a deal is sealed, there oughta be a no-weasel clause. If I were to swap my wife for a fishing boat, she's his, I'm going fishing and he's her indentured servant. I do have a sense of humor.

When I was younger, I wouldn't have remotely entertained the concept of a threesome, especially with another dude. Make no mistake, I was DNA'd without a hint of a feminine side. I'm in to women and only women.

As I've matured, I've become less rigid. No, I ani't close to thinking about altering my affinity for only women. But I can see life through the eyes of others. I know that my g/f is closing in on the end of her sexual prime. If doing two dudes is what she really wants to do, I'd have to consider it. I know that its another common female fantasy. She has asked me to find a swingers club. It's obvious that she haas devoted much thought to doing a two-dude threesome. I know how I'd feel were I to have a pronounced yearning for something only be denied by another. How would she feel 10 years from now if I were to deny her sexual exploration she now desires?

She looks 10 years younger that she is. She obviously has excellent genes. She looks hot out of her jeans. She's told me that she's always loved to be naked, that she knows the power her naked body has over men. She loves to fantasize aloud during sex. She loves dirty talk, especially being called a porn star and a s__lut. Out of the bedroom, I treat her like a queen, especially in front of her family.

I've never been with a woman who loves sex as much as her. We had sex on our first date. That was 11 years ago. I probably know close to her entire sexual history. She loves to talk sex. I know sex is in the cards when she starts graphically talking about past sex with one dude or another. She'll still tell me how one of her first boyfriends with whom she was in love would eff the heck outta her as soon as she arrived at his apartment, then she'd allow him to bang her butt, then they'd take a shower & go out.Then they'd go back to his apartment and have more sex. She talks about him a lot because she was authentically in love with whom she thought he was. Later she learned that he was a BS'er. She does not regret the incredible sex she had with him. I've told her any times that she's fortunate to have such wonderful memories. And she has a lot of sexual memories.

Like most women, she loves rough sex. She's not in to men who love her tenderly. She does not like size-challenged men. She'll virtually worship a long, thick penis. She loves to give head. So what would I do were another dude to cum in her mouth? Would I ask her to brush her teeth and hit Listerine before I kiss her? Drink a shot of whiskey to cleanse her mouth? I have no clue.

Another concern is that I'm good for one. A couple hours later, I can usually hit it for another. So what do I do during intermission? I know a huge part of it is that I'd watch her getting worked by another dude. just her fantasizing about my watching her getting worked drenches her. If that would heighten her experience, I'd do it. But I'd rather put my down time to productive use.

I'm guessing that were we to thoroughly discuss it outside of a bedroom fantasy and she authentically wanted a MMF threesome, I'd more that likely oblige her.

[amy40]

I treat her like a queen, especially in front of her family.
our first date. That was 11 years ago. .

You've been with her 11 years? I still don't get why you don't ask her to marry you.
I don't get the whole California thing. Maybe you don't trust her?

[Maisie Dayz]

Not something i'd consider, not even if i were single.
I'm so not interested in having sex with women and definitely couldn't have sex with a man i'm not in love with (never had a 1 night stand). Both are turn off's, not on's.
Whilst I understand many have such fantasies, I kinda think they're best left that way but it's a personal decision and should only be considered if it's right for all involved.

[atskitty2]

Waverider, you've mentioned that this relationship is not long term, that you sort of suspect that it may be near the end for you. If a threesome isn't your thing, yet you don't wanna hold her back from realizing the fantasy, why not let her go so she can experience it?

I don't quite understand the dynamic of your relationship and I'm not asking you to explain, but generally, it seems your mind is somewhere else on this matter.

And, If you think she is near the end of her sexual prime, lol, be careful with that. She may have this high drive we'll into her retirement.

[WaveRider]

You've been with her 11 years? I still don't get why you don't ask her to marry you and make her an honest woman.
I don't get the whole California thing. Maybe you don't trust her? Maybe you think she would marry you and then take all your money? Would she be that vindictive?

I can't imagine being with a man that long and not being married.

Good Morning, Amy,

It's not that I don't trust her. I don't trust CA family law. Almost without exception, pettifoggers who can't do other legal work find their only option is to make money off of most vulnerable people. Commissioners and judges hate family law. The brightest judges move into criminal courts. Moron judges are given family law assignments. Commissioners are lawyers who take jobs meting out stupidity because they couldn't make a living practicing law. Commissioners are not judges.

I've read research that indicated that ~50% of family law commissioners and judges' rulings are wrong.

It's not the even slightest possibility of dissolution that scares men away from remarriage. It's the frightening thought that morons in family law can ruin their lives by making stupid decisions.

I'd love for anyone to cogently explain to me the difference between overt slavery and forcing a man (or woman) to work for the benefit of another. Spousal support is euphemism for legal slavery.

Watch, "Laws of Attraction" starring Pierce Brosnan and Julianne Moore. They're opposing divorce lawyers. Brosnan immediately falls in love with her. She's jaded due to hustling divorces. The best scene in the movie is a divorce lawyer conference. Brosnan addressed a forum packed with family law pettifoggers, "All lawyers are scum. Divorce lawyer are fungus that grows under the scum." He gets it. She doesn't...until she surrenders to her true feelings of love for him. Brosnan believes that lawyers' ethical responsibility is to convince their clients that they should try to save their marriages. Moore convinces her clients to divorce. BTW, "Laws of Atraction" is an excellent movie. I'm sure the script was written by a jaded and former family law pettifogger.

CA family law pettifoggers encourage acrimonious divorce. The more acrimony they can create, the more money they can steal. To family law pettifoggers, acrimony translates to higher "legal" (read: legal stealing) fees. They will look for any excuse to churn legal fees by filing stupid motions and making worthless court appearances.

My g/f and her ex wasted ~100k on their divorce. It was wasted money. And family law has created a family destruction industry of worthless morons who make money off of vulnerable people. People shystering in the divorce related industry; e.g., psychologists & "social workers", are actually patsies for commissioners and judges. When they screw up (One such CA judge screw up was the direct cause of a child's murder.), they blame patsies for giving them bad info. If commissioners and judges are too dumb to know fact from agenda, their highest and best use is cleaning courtrooms, not meting our "legal" decisions.

There is a lawyer hierarchy in CA. At the bottom are family law pettifoggers. Other lawyers look upon family law pettifoggers with contempt. Who would want to be in a career that is based upon misery of others? The noun for people who profit and seek gratification from misery of others is schadenfreude. The same is true for commissioners and judges who are unable to find positive, productive work.

That's why divorced men in CA rarely remarry. CA family law encourages women (and some men) to become deadbeats who leech off of hapless former spouses. My ex was in it for all she could get and then some. And she told anyone who'd listen that she wanted to destroy me and take me for everything she could get. Spousal support allowed her to pursue a life of leisure while forcing me to work to keep her in $$$.

I have absolutely no respect for anyone who profits off of misery of others. Such "human beings" have to be sociopaths.

BTW, I've heard rumors of CA politicians reforming CA family law because it's a reviled injustice. Divorce should be an easy administrative process, not a legal injustice. So far, rumors have not materialize in to reformative action. If family law were to dissolve, how would thousands of worthless erstwhile family law pettifoggers earn livings?