[DreamP346]

But when she was on her period she could have sex all day for days and not have to worry about becoming knocked up.

Not true. We really need better sex education in this country.

[jns]

Not true. We really need better sex education in this country.

WaveRider's gf was overly optimistic, but a flat "Not true" is overly cautious. If the sex is in the first two days of menstruation, there is little chance of becoming pregnant. Then again, no form of birth control is perfect, not even a total hysterectomy if a fertilized egg is implanted on the intestine (if a fertilized egg implants on the intestine, death from hemorrhaging is likely when the placenta tears the intestine when the fetus is large). So we talk about likelihoods. Sex on the second day with five day life of the sperm under quasi optimal conditions would require ovulation to take place on the seventh day, again very much not likely. Irregular periods and short cycles occur, so the risk of pregnancy goes up slightly for sex on the third day and continues to rise until the day of ovulation. How this works is that day three plus five equals eight, a day that ovulation occurs in a small number of women. I have read that sex on the day of ovulation has about a 9% chance of causing pregnancy as long as other factors don't come in to play, such as him shooting blanks or almost shooting blanks or her having medical reasons that prevent pregnancy or make it difficult (heavily scarred Fallopian tubes in my wife's case). Ovulation on the eighth day is probably a much less than 10% chance (I think that ovulating on day 8 occurs in less than 10% of women but I was not able to find a statistical table) and then having only a 9% chance of becoming pregnant during an optimal day would leave a chance of around 1% or less. For a woman who has regular periods and ovulates very near 14 days, the odds are much less than 1%. Toward the end of a seven day period, the odds are much higher on becoming pregnant, but are overall still fairly low. What is interesting is that sex two days after ovulation occurs is of low risk. Ovulation can be tracked with high certainty. Therefore, with good record keeping, sex during a period is probably not the least risk situation.

[Lithium]

WaveRider's gf was overly optimistic, but a flat "Not true" is overly cautious. If the sex is in the first two days of menstruation, there is little chance of becoming pregnant. .

I think she was talking about diseases and not the pregnancy part.
Having a period doesn't protect from those to happen. So I follow her lead: people in general need way much better sexual education. I have seen people saying such things about sex that my brain just melts... Things like "the condom doesn't prevents you from getting pregnant unless you take a pill" or "non-hormonal pills do not prevent against pregnancies". Yes, I heard this and it was not only once and indeed not from the same person.

[DreamP346]

WaveRider's gf was overly optimistic, but a flat "Not true" is overly cautious. If the sex is in the first two days of menstruation, there is little chance of becoming pregnant. Then again, no form of birth control is perfect, not even a total hysterectomy if a fertilized egg is implanted on the intestine (if a fertilized egg implants on the intestine, death from hemorrhaging is likely when the placenta tears the intestine when the fetus is large). So we talk about likelihoods. Sex on the second day with five day life of the sperm under quasi optimal conditions would require ovulation to take place on the seventh day, again very much not likely. Irregular periods and short cycles occur, so the risk of pregnancy goes up slightly for sex on the third day and continues to rise until the day of ovulation. How this works is that day three plus five equals eight, a day that ovulation occurs in a small number of women. I have read that sex on the day of ovulation has about a 9% chance of causing pregnancy as long as other factors don't come in to play, such as him shooting blanks or almost shooting blanks or her having medical reasons that prevent pregnancy or make it difficult (heavily scarred Fallopian tubes in my wife's case). Ovulation on the eighth day is probably a much less than 10% chance (I think that ovulating on day 8 occurs in less than 10% of women but I was not able to find a statistical table) and then having only a 9% chance of becoming pregnant during an optimal day would leave a chance of around 1% or less. For a woman who has regular periods and ovulates very near 14 days, the odds are much less than 1%. Toward the end of a seven day period, the odds are much higher on becoming pregnant, but are overall still fairly low. What is interesting is that sex two days after ovulation occurs is of low risk. Ovulation can be tracked with high certainty. Therefore, with good record keeping, sex during a period is probably not the least risk situation.

Before responding, let me just preface my qualifications in this area. I used to be a sex educators and have studied this area significantly both within an academic setting and on my own. While what you say is true, the chances of getting pregnant from any single sexual encounter is a matter of probability. The thing is, when we are young, the body is constantly trying to get pregnant and while certain days within the month may be lower risk days, continually engaging it that risk is like playing Russian roulette each time.

Your presentation of the situation does not account for too many variables, the primary being that majority of women do not have regular periods. That 28 days thing is an exception, not the norm. Women will tell you that. Additionally, sperm can live within the vagina for up to 5 days. It is true that ovulation can be tracked with high certainty, however do you know the realistic ability to do it? It requires a huge dedication, taking your vaginal temperature each day at EXACTLY the same time before your body makes any movement, meaning you can't be rolling around. It's one of those things are doesn't translate too well to real life situations.

The idea that you can't get pregnant during a women's period is one of the biggest misconceptions we fight with teens.

[jns]

Before responding, let me just preface my qualifications in this area. I used to be a sex educators and have studied this area significantly both within an academic setting and on my own. While what you say is true, the chances of getting pregnant from any single sexual encounter is a matter of probability. The thing is, when we are young, the body is constantly trying to get pregnant and while certain days within the month may be lower risk days, continually engaging it that risk is like playing Russian roulette each time.

Your presentation of the situation does not account for too many variables, the primary being that majority of women do not have regular periods. That 28 days thing is an exception, not the norm. Women will tell you that. Additionally, sperm can live within the vagina for up to 5 days. It is true that ovulation can be tracked with high certainty, however do you know the realistic ability to do it? It requires a huge dedication, taking your vaginal temperature each day at EXACTLY the same time before your body makes any movement, meaning you can't be rolling around. It's one of those things are doesn't translate too well to real life situations.

The idea that you can't get pregnant during a women's period is one of the biggest misconceptions we fight with teens.

Hi DreamP346 , since you were a sex educator, you should be able to point me to good statistics on the percentage of women who ovulate on each day after the start of their period. A large enough study would take in irregular periods. For a woman who has irregular periods, the majority you claim (statistic basis? The women I have known intimately enough to know their period have been mostly regular with only slipping a few days early and several days more late, on occasion), the real determination is about how irregular they are. Do they ovulate on day 8 in a 22 day cycle one month and ovulate on day 21 in a 35 day cycle the next month? I think the average pattern is much less irregular than that.

AFAIK, it is not generally true that sperm can live in the vagina for five days. The vagina is too acidic to allow sperm to live very long except during a woman's period. The sperm needs to make its way into the uterus or the fallopian tubes to find a nurturing environment if it is going to live for five days.

Dedication is what makes many things possible. Being irresponsible often leads to undesired results.

[DreamP346]

Hi DreamP346 , since you were a sex educator, you should be able to point me to good statistics on the percentage of women who ovulate on each day after the start of their period. A large enough study would take in irregular periods. .

I will have to get back to you on this. It will require dusting off some old textbooks. I was a sex educator, not a statisticians so keeping track of where you can find certain study data was not my expertise.

For a woman who has irregular periods, the majority you claim (statistic basis? The women I have known intimately enough to know their period have been mostly regular with only slipping a few days early and several days more late, on occasion), the real determination is about how irregular they are. Do they ovulate on day 8 in a 22 day cycle one month and ovulate on day 21 in a 35 day cycle the next month? I think the average pattern is much less irregular than that.

Actually you just demonstrated that the 28-day regularity is a fallacy. "mostly regular" "only slipping a few days" is exactly what I mean. The only thing that is regular is a Timex And periods tend to be less regular when younger.

AFAIK, it is not generally true that sperm can live in the vagina for five days. The vagina is too acidic to allow sperm to live very long except during a woman's period. The sperm needs to make its way into the uterus or the fallopian tubes to find a nurturing environment if it is going to live for five days.

You are correct here. The sperm has a short lifespan within the vaginal canal but can live up to 5 days within the uterus which is a sterile environment and definitely can make its way to and wait patiently for that egg to arrive.

Dedication is what makes many things possible. Being irresponsible often leads to undesired results

Words are easier than actions. Just because it is possible, doesn't make it reality or realistic. And we are dealing with the real world here; people with flaws and consequences that can impact lives.

[Romy]

I'm female and I absolutely hate condoms. It just doesn't feel the same and I also feel it's more intimate without a condom. I'm talking about sex with a regular partner. I also don't enjoy sex as much because I know it's not as good as it can be for the male. I can't image what it feels like for them. I find I dry out quicker and the friction becomes painful. I'd rather not have sex to be honest if a condom is involved. Thankfully it's not an issue for me these days.

[deep-evie]

Condoms suck to be honest, but for new lovers i do demand them be used. I love anal and don't offer it until i know he is free of STIs, as for anal i demand no condom, i love the dirty feeling of anal sex and having him with protection defeats the purpose, gotta have some risk there for that "omg this is filthy" feeling.

[Texasred]

Male:
I once read that having sex wearing a condom is like taking a shower wearing a raincoat. That pretty well sums it up for me! With the loss of sensation, it's almost impossible for me to orgasm.

[WaveRider]

Women on this forum have confirmed what my g/f has told me: women don't like condoms.

*Romy: I'm a a stage in life where I'd rather go blood test before sex with a new partner.

*deep-evie: my g/f is an anal sexpert although we've never done it. She hates condoms. I asked her if any of her anal sex dudes wore 'em due to fecal matter. Nope. No anal sex condoms for her. But she did tell me that she always assured that she had pooped before she'd allow a dude to have anal sex with her. After I have a finger deep inside of her butt, I'll always thoroughly wash my hands immediately after my finger's free & clear of where it had been. No poop on my finger.

My g/f was incredulous when I told her that I've never had anal sex. I don't have a phobia of it. It was merely that a mouth and vajayjay were all I needed. She told me that most of her college sorority sisters were doing anal sex. She has told me that most of her adult friends do anal sex. Maybe if I knew I'd be good for more than once, I'd let her take my anal sex virginity. But anal sex ain't something that excites me like blow jobs and banging does. And after she's done cumming, she wants to be full contact banged. Then she'll rest for a while and want to cum more. I've never been with a woman with a sex drive like she has. Her sex drive could win the Indy 500, and she wouldn't need a Formula One car to hit the checkered flag.