[WildChild]

This all recycling of what is taught in a variety of motivational/sales/wealth/coaching programs. And some do really help some people. What they mostly do is sell books and additional attendence at programs which makes the promotors very wealthy. I've done a lot of them and have gotten some what cynical about most of them, although I did learn something at each; often more by my observation of people and how they respond and how they can be manipulated. All of us are in a variety of ways pretty much daily. Sad thing is it isn't usually what is good for us but rather what will foster a desired end for others, such as getting you to buy brand y instead of brand x.

Yes in the mid-west I think there is less game playing in some parts of life. I've lived most of my like in the west and mid-west but have spent a few years on both coasts, But that doesn't mean we are exempt from it and relationships tend to be where the larger part goes on. Just like beefing up a resume, some people manage to hide who they really are for a long enough time.

Isn't funny/sad that so many will put their best foot forward for strangers and save their worst for those closest to them?

[Livelaughlove]

Little men behave like sperm women behave like the egg. Ill let you draw your own conclusion through that.

That's not 100% true. That's the problem with labels. Being a geek doesn't mean that you are socially inept or a social outcast. I have a friend who refers to himself as a geek because he likes computer games and other things that people consider geeky. He's tall, built, very handsome, has tons of friends and is a total socialite.

A player doesn't mean that you are social, good looking, etc. A lot of times a person who is cocky, considers himself a player and is social is also the same person who is lacking the confidence and uses this as way to exude something he/she wishes they were. They're hiding from something.

I highly doubt that a person who is behind a computer or video games is a social person!

Words dont convince me!

It has been my experience that the two are mutually exclusive. A person who enjoys the outdoors, hiking, biking, running will not sit in front of the TV for hours.

The fact that society even makes him feel the need to change who he is just shows how completely effed up the world is. He should be confident in who he already is. If he wants to make improvements upon himself then that is great but he shouldn't do it because he feels that he isn't what society claims is "popular demand."

When it comes to socializing its easier to be a women then a man! All women have to do is say yes or no. Men actually have to take action to get a girl!

With men there is an extreme amount of fear associated with approaching a women! Its the equivalent of how you feel THE MOMENT BEFORE you sleep with a guy for the first time.

So a man actually has to face that fear every time he approaches a girl. Imagine if you had to feel the fear every time you spoke to a new guy, it would make it difficult wouldn't it?

Resentment, not at all. Not even close. I've always been popular, pretty, out-going for the most part. I've never had to change who I was though either and I never would. Sure, there is always room for improvement in all of us. None of us are perfect, Everyone can use a little work. I just say, don't do it because you think it's what people want from you.

I never said I was perfect!!

Perfection is an illusion, Which again I clearly stated in my previous post!

Im happy you didn't find any of my words offensive, as they were not meant to hurt rather to enlighten.

Im not posting here because I enjoy spending my time on a computer just to argue a certain topic which seems to be the case for some people! I have better things to do with my time!

With that said, live laugh and love

[OG612]

Little men behave like sperm women behave like the egg. Ill let you draw your own conclusion through that.

Men behave like little, wriggling proteins while women just kinda lay there? What?

I highly doubt that a person who is behind a computer or video games is a social person!

September 14, 2009, is the day I cancelled my WoW subscription. It's not because it as cutting in to my social life, nor because I couldn't afford it, but because it was too repetitive and slow for my liking.

Words dont convince me!

Would you like to see my email I got from them?

It has been my experience that the two are mutually exclusive. A person who enjoys the outdoors, hiking, biking, running will not sit in front of the TV for hours.

Then your experiences haven't been very broad. You're showing a very closed-minded perspective here. On top of that, my dad loves going for hikes, fishing with his grand kids, BBQs, and playing music until the crack of dawn. But there are times when he'd just rather relax in front of the TV with his wife. And my dad is one of the most social people I know.

When it comes to socializing its easier to be a women then a man! All women have to do is say yes or no. Men actually have to take action to get a girl!

See now you're making the mistake of confusing "socializing" with "pickup." Another deception of the Mystery Method (and almost every other PUA method out there). A woman can be shy and introverted and have a hard time socializing. She might put on a front at work, but deep down it's killing her because she really wants to be alone.

When it comes to finding a mate, or even a sex partner for the night, women tend to have it easier than men the majority of the time.

With men there is an extreme amount of fear associated with approaching a women! Its the equivalent of how you feel THE MOMENT BEFORE you sleep with a guy for the first time.

And that fear of being approached doesn't resonate in women? That nervousness of having sex for the first time with a new woman doesn't resonate within a man?

So a man actually has to face that fear every time he approaches a girl. Imagine if you had to feel the fear every time you spoke to a new guy, it would make it difficult wouldn't it?

Why does it have to be fear? Why can't it be called "anxiety" or "negative performance energy"? While still negative in connotation, much more positive sounding than "fear" which is a painted word.

I never said I was perfect!! Perfection is an illusion, Which again I clearly stated in my previous post!

She said that you're putting on the airs of perfection. Like a "Mr. Know-It-All" if you will.

Im happy you didn't find any of my words offensive, as they were not meant to hurt rather to enlighten.

One could have easily taken offense to the things you say, though. Your language is full of negativity and heightened energy. I say "heightened energy" because of the prolific use of bold print and EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!! Calm down, junior. There are ways to explain things without coming across as so emotional.

Im not posting here because I enjoy spending my time on a computer just to argue a certain topic which seems to be the case for some people! I have better things to do with my time!

Nobody enjoys griping back and forth through a keyboard, my friend. And your little jab right there... swing and a miss. WC isn't one to get confrontational on here. But you know this.

OG

[Livelaughlove]

With all due respect OG,

It seems obvious to me that your being argumentative for the sake of differentiating yourself from myself and other pua's. Like a "OG vs LLL and pua world" if you will. As far as im concerned you have not made a single point worth arguing.

Live laugh and love

[Livelaughlove]

And "MY LITTLE JAB" was in no way directed toward WILD CHILD! I would never insult her, as she has more then my respect and admiration!

Live laugh and love

[Little]

LLL, you base your thinking on the idea that women act like women and men act like men. A point on which I fundamentally disagree in favor of "people act like people."
Some women like geeks, some men like geeks, some women like players, some men like players ... some people like people, some people don't.
Sometimes it's impossible to find a decent sexual partner when you want one, even if you are a woman! An attractive woman at that.
And we don't like leftovers here. If you don't want to be here, nothing is keeping you here. If you have better things to do, the thread will still be here later. We're patient. But I'm not going to tolerate bickering on my forum So when I get back to this thread, after I do my important things, I don't want to see any

[Haven]

How old are you, LLL?

[OG612]

With all due respect OG,

It seems obvious to me that your being argumentative for the sake of differentiating yourself from myself and other pua's. Like a "OG vs LLL and pua world" if you will.

If you read what I post on Style Life, you'll see that it's outside what is considered to be the "PUA norm" for events. I see things on a higher level than a "PUA". I see things from a perspective of life, energy, and spirituality (amongst other things). If I were a pickup artist, I'd pretty much be falling in life with what you're saying. And where would the fun in that be?

As far as im concerned you have not made a single point worth arguing.

It's hard to argue with my points. If you think I'm wrong, then say so. I'm a big boy and can handle a debate. My logic is simply on a higher plane than what you're willing to accept at this point in your life.

You can think I'm "wrong" and that's fine. That's your right to think such things. All I ask is that you allow yourself to expand your mind and elevate your consciousness to the next plane of thinking and you'll see what it is I'm talking about. Once there if you don't like what you see, you can always return to where you're at now.

Life is a game. But that doesn't mean that game is life.

OG

[Guest]

OTYA, I'm not quite 30 myself, brother. 27 if you're curious.

Wonders will never cease...i'm 27 as well.

And harem management doesn't have to involve trickery or deceit. It is entirely feasible to be dating multiple women at once, them all knowing about, and whom, each other are, and socialize knowing what's going on without any hard feelings. It's all in how you present the situation.

Meh - It is feasible to be "dating" multiple women at once...all of them knowing what's going on....however, in my experience I've found that the women who are "okay" with this are either lying about their feelings or i'm just plain out of their league.

Any of the ladies here okay with me dating you and fugging all your friends as well? Even if I was up front and honest about it?

[OG612]

As long as you manage expectations up front, then fault cannot fall on your shoulders as long as you don't stray from what you set up.

OG