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  • Texasred
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1216

    Originally posted by atskitty2
    ...wouldn't they realise that they can't keep up the charade forever? And they're going to lose her when he stops the act?.
    Maybe it's not always a charade, maybe it's just working at being a better person, sometimes anyway. Not unlike dressing better than you usually do, or being on your best manners when there's someone you really want to impress.
    I may have done that myself...

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    • amy40
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 2732

      Originally posted by Texasred
      As for the two voices thing: my wife does that exactly - there's the voice she uses on the phone, then there's the voice she uses with me
      absolutely hate that; my mom used to do it

      I do have two voices......my talking and my singing voice
      my singing voice is off tune but I sing anyway......always in the car and sometimes in stores to store music

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      • atskitty2
        Assistant Admin
        • Aug 2013
        • 4467

        OMG!!! You're a store singer!!!!!
        No!!!! No no no!!!!!!!!!!

        Lol
        I'm being dramatic.

        I have been shopping twice over the past 2 yrs maybe, when I've experienced a woman singing...so loud that it was hard to get away from and terribly annoying as it was just off with the overhead music. I have a serious aversion to loud, disorganized noise or noises that are not in sync...it's very agitating in my brain.
        Both times she had a gorgeous voice but it was such a distraction and irritant to me.
        It all only started with my illness...so I'm sure it's part of whatever that is, and I just leave the store.
        Anyway...

        Texas, I could see a man or woman doing that in the beginning...putting the best foot forward and such, but months in or a year into dating, I tend to let the guard down and let someone get to know me, as I am. I wear my gym clothes or, let them see me on a lazy day, with dirty hair or no makeup.

        At some point I wanna know who the person is at/near their worst, before I commit.

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        • Texasred
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1216

          Originally posted by atskitty2
          ...At some point I wanna know who the person is at/near their worst, before I commit.
          Maybe, or maybe not. What if that person just doesn't want to be "their worst" anymore? What if that was just inertia, and meeting you was the stimulus they needed to change?
          I'm not saying this is common, but I think it does happen.
          I know there have been times when I was alone and sat around on Saturday mornings with vodka in raisin bran for my breakfast, but those days are long gone! :-)

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          • atskitty2
            Assistant Admin
            • Aug 2013
            • 4467

            Of course, I'm much better now, than 15 yrs ago, even at my worst. I think we all grow and develop better skills, or at least we try to. But I think what's been described here is very different.

            ETA: I also think that being a catalyst for change could be a point of discussion here. I don't necessarily think that lasting, genuine change comes through inspiration of pleasing someone else, or obtaining the company of someone else. I think we only really change for ourselves. I'm not referring to little habits and preferences, like the toilet paper roll or how we prefer our tea. I'm talking about WHO we are, how we manage conflict and communicate, how we approach life and behave in the world.

            Last edited by atskitty2; 01-25-2018, 11:22 AM.

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            • Texasred
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1216

              That's true, but sometimes meeting a new person can be that catalyst for change. I recall exactly the day a certain woman came into my life, and all the thoughts that ran through my head as I was first speaking to her. Thoughts that ran from touching her, to introducing her to my parents, to picturing what our children might look like... And this at a time in my life when I was certain I'd never marry again! But mixed in all this, I resolved to work harder, go back to school, learn to control my hot-headed temper - all this in the time it took me to walk her to her car.
              And I did change: I got my Master's in engineering, I became a manager in my company, and it's been years since I've actually punched someone!

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              • atskitty2
                Assistant Admin
                • Aug 2013
                • 4467

                So are you saying you did all that for her?

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                • amy40
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 2732

                  Originally posted by Texasred
                  Thoughts that ran from touching her, to introducing her to my parents, to picturing what our children might look like...
                  And I did change: I got my Master's in engineering, I became a manager in my company
                  texasred
                  curious, did you do all that for your current wife or someone else?

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                  • Texasred
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1216

                    Originally posted by atskitty2
                    So are you saying you did all that for her?
                    I did all that for me, but she was the inspiration.

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                    • Texasred
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                      • Oct 2009
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                      did you do all that for your current wife or someone else
                      Someone else inspired me.
                      We were together for a couple of very good years, but when I got a new and much better job and had to relocate, she chose not to make the move with me.

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