[stressed]

This is true but we all have to admit that really it boils down to somewhat being the fault of women. If women would stop posing for the pictures and making the films .............................

If it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it.

Many people sell drugs out there, but we don't have to buy them, do we?

[ocularone]

This is true but we all have to admit that really it boils down to somewhat being the fault of women. If women would stop posing for the pictures and making the films .............................

well it's really a never-ending vicious cycle. the women pose for those pictures and make those movies because they know it will attract the men(sometimes the only way) or because they are getting paid to pose.

i think both men and women have equal roles to play in the blame for it..

[ocularone]

economics 101: supply and demand

[Hopeless Dork]

This is true but we all have to admit that really it boils down to somewhat being the fault of women. If women would stop posing for the pictures and making the films .............................

I agree. Unfortunately the world is filled with a lot of emotionally damaged and or financially desperate women, so there's always going to be someone willing to do it.

I know there is a lot of women that do porn, become strippers that are mentally healthy and well and had perfect childhoods, but the truth is, most aren't and didn't. History of abuse and or drugs is even more prevelent in the women that do porn.

Of course there are women that do it for attention and do it for fancy apartments... but for everyone one of them there are 20 that do it to feed their family with no other job skills, that do it to feed a drug habit, that do it because they feel worth nothing anyway.

[Fallen1]

If it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it.

Many people sell drugs out there, but we don't have to buy them, do we?

I agree with what you are saying.

I was just presenting another side of it that sometimes crosses my mind. I just hate to always put TOTAL blame on men that this industry exists. However, with today's technology if women were to stop I'm sure it wouldn't matter. CGI would just take over.

[ocularone]

i am curious to speculate how many CEO's of pornography companies are women.

[newhere808]

If it didn't sell, they wouldn't do it.

Your not totally wrong, but that is far from being the sole driving reason. Ever seen an interview witha pornstar? It's shocking how many women actually enjoy what they do, enjoy being oogled as they pose and model and sleep with their work buddies, same goes for several non-nude models. Many admit to a feel of empowerment, being able to literally demand attention simply by flashing parts of their anatomy. Same goes for the girl in college that wears a low cut top or a short skirt to sway some attention her way, i'm sorry, but many of these women know exactly what they are doing and enjoy being the one's in control of the game. Assuming that the market only exists solely because of the male demand for it is, and sorry to say, extremely ignorant and biased.

I've seen more women swoon over half naked man boys that wax themselves to display their picture perfect abs than i've seen men stop and stare at a magazine cover. Suffice it to say, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, women can be just as visually stimulated and baited as men.

[Hopeless Dork]

. Ever seen an interview witha pornstar? It's shocking how many women actually enjoy what they do.

Ever seen some interviews with some ex porn stars? A lot of ladies still in the industry in some form, either becoming owners of their own studio a la jenna jameson (who still acts occasionally anyway) or current actresses are of course going to say they love what they do -- they are still getting paid. They wouldn't get booked anymore if they were on oprah talking about how disgusting it made them feel and how they have to be coked up not to want to jump out a window.

Take a look at traci lords, linda lovelace (sp, the actress from "deep throat") among several others that are no longer in the industry, no longer profiting from it, and speak with regret and painful memories of what 1. lead them into the industry and 2. the actual things they did for money.

[Goodgirl93]

I've seen more women swoon over half naked man boys that wax themselves to display their picture perfect abs than i've seen men stop and stare at a magazine cover. Suffice it to say, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, women can be just as visually stimulated and baited as men.

Now that I have to agree with.Weather women like to admit it or not,at some point they have seen a porno,even if it didn't turn them on.Men are not the only ones who can develope an addiction to porn,women most certainly can as well.Its a great stimulant for some women,for others,it doest absolutely nothing for them.

[Hopeless Dork]

There are several movies out there of young girls that urinated on. Even during some comeshot scenes, the look of horror and disgust on some of the girls faces (some are not such great actresses) is pretty evident.

I don't know why anyone would believe that some young 18 year old pretty girl, would want to be urinated on, on film, for everyone to see for years to come, by some old creepy guy calling her names -- just because she loves it, no other emotional damage , no drug problem, just her love of being humiliated.

While there are several people into humiliation (at home in their own bedroom, not in a movie), a lot of them have damaging pasts as well.