[Irelandlover]

that is because they don't live in their homes.where it is the safest place to be.


No, we don't have a low opnions of men at all.
as I mentioned above, Without the hijab, the heart may or may not desire, so we want ot be on the safe side.
in the middle east, I almost never heared of rape crimes or someone was molested by her father or any thing of this matter.

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We go to the market everyday, >>
We walk down the street full of people>>
I work with male coworkers, and my head is always held up. >>
I will be giving lectures to mostly males students >>
Where should look, at the ceiling or at the floor?>>
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What we don't do is staring; you can look while dealing with the seller of Kabab , but don't stare. Maybe that is what your Muslim friend meant to tell you.>>
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Why would I stare, of course I wouldn't! Muslim men think that because I do not cover my head that I am a slapper. they think all western women are, plus they do not understand the western religion - protestant trligion. The men I have spoken to thought Mary had sex with God. They form opinion based on little evidence, and make lots of generalizations.

[housewife]

"in the middle east, I almost never heared of rape crimes or someone was molested by her father or any thing of this matter"

so are you saying when a child is molested its because of the clothes they wear? have you ever though maybe these horrible crimes are not spoken about as often in the middle east as the y are in the western world?
I extremly doubt that a child covering the whole of themselves would prevent their father from suffering from this sickening "illness"

Children every where wear the same kind of clothing, women start to cover up their bodies after one starts her period.

Child molester is almost a very rare phenomenon in the east.>>
I grew up in a crowded village in Lebanonlace, until I turned 13.
We used to walk to school with other kids about 3 miles away from home.
Sometimes I walked alone, never been scared.
We used to play outside and wander away in the surrounding areas ,
Nobody ever warned me or my friends from strangers or from going outside and playing until sunset in the streets.>>
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Don?t you think if child molesters are everywhere, and we don't talk about it in the lace w:st="on">Middle Eastlace>, shouldn't my parents or my friends? parents drive us to school daily instead of walking?>>
Or shouldn't they at last warn us about being around strangers?>>
Or shouldn't they keep an eye on us wherever we went?>>
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It is safe over there,>>
Here, God, children disappear in a thin air. >>
I have never heard such horrible stories about kidnapping and raping kids until I came her. >>
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I agree with your last sentence. Child molesters are disgusting, they deserve no less than a death sentence.>>
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[housewife]

Why would I stare, of course I wouldn't! Muslim men think that because I do not cover my head that I am a slapper. they think all western women are, plus they do not understand the western religion - protestant trligion. The men I have spoken to thought Mary had sex with God. They form opinion based on little evidence, and make lots of generalizations.

Muslim men don't think that about western women, that is not true, a lot of Muslim women don't cover up, specially the ones who live in the west, to avoid criticism or harassment from others.fficeffice" />>>
And what is this story of Mary and God? I got chills>>
The Kabob seller told you this?>>
I wish you had this talk with some more knowledgeable and descent Muslim man.>>

[housewife]

Nonsense that nuns don't live in their homes and so that is why there have been cases of rape. complete nonsense. first you said the argument is to do with clothes. then I give you an example about a group of people who cover up in the western word, and you say its because they don't live in their homes!

Of course they live in their home, the home of their Lord.

That is why. they think what you think.

[nicky2007]

I believe you are still a child even after you have started your periods. I think it?s very naive for you to believe there are hardly any child molesters in the Middle East its an "illness" its everywhere, I personally feel, in your culture it is seen more as a taboo subject and brings shame to a family if this has happened, and in the case of arranged marriages I also feel if the women has been molester as a child, it would be harder to "marry her off" therefore people keep quiet. But that?s just my opinion. on a positive side I have heard the penalties for paedophiles in the middle east is a lot more severe the western world, i.e. being stoned to death, I don?t know how true this is, but if it is I could see that maybe putting people off doing it, where as here the sentences paedophiles receive are a joke.

[housewife]

I believe you are still a child even after you have started your periods. I think it?s very naive for you to believe there are hardly any child molesters in the Middle East its an "illness" its everywhere, I personally feel, in your culture it is seen more as a taboo subject and brings shame to a family if this has happened, and in the case of arranged marriages I also feel if the women has been molester as a child, it would be harder to "marry her off" therefore people keep quiet. But that?s just my opinion. on a positive side I have heard the penalties for paedophiles in the middle east is a lot more severe the western world, i.e. being stoned to death, I don?t know how true this is, but if it is I could see that maybe putting people off doing it, where as here the sentences paedophiles receive are a joke.

You are confusing the child molestation with rape crimes or adultery.fficeffice" />>>
You don't know the mentality of the middle eastern people, >>
If these crimes happen, they don't wait for the law order to step in and take actions.>>
They go ahead and kill.>>
Kill the doer because if they don?t, that brings the shame to the family.>>
And in these cases the police try not to interfere.>>
oh, by the way, Your first sentence was not nice at all.

[gcourt]

so safe over there

Housewife-if you felt so safe where you were and god and children vanish so quickly here into the air why do you still live here or why did you move in the first place? Not a personal attack just curious.

[Irelandlover]

Muslim men don't think that about western women, that is not true, a lot of Muslim women don't cover up, specially the ones who live in the west, to avoid criticism or harassment from others.fficeffice" />>>
And what is this story of Mary and God? I got chills>>
The Kabob seller told you this?>>
I wish you had this talk with some more knowledgeable and descent Muslim man.>>

O.k, but I have spoken to many men who think like this. When I was 18 I went out with a muslim man I was still a virgin and had not even passionately kissed a man, when he found out he could not believe it. He said he thought all women slept with men at the age of about 16. I stopped going with out with him after 3 weeks

I know imagine how I felt when I heard this about the Virgin Mary, what ignorance. It was not the kebab seller is was a man who was in England to study avionics, an intelligent man. He was told that this is what protestant religion believes.

[nicky2007]

how is "I believe you are still a child even after you have started your periods." not nice? its a fact! people nowadays start their periods as young as 11, do you no consider someone of 11 a child. i am not exactly sure what you have disliked about my first sentence, unless you mean me calling you naive, if so i did not mean to offend you, but thats my opinion.

[Guest]

how is "I believe you are still a child even after you have started your periods." not nice? its a fact! people nowadays start their periods as young as 11, do you no consider someone of 11 a child. i am not exactly sure what you have disliked about my first sentence, unless you mean me calling you naive, if so i did not mean to offend you, but thats my opinion.

Agreed. I got my period when I was 9. I believe I was still a child. :P I have no idea why it was "not nice," too.