[nicky2007]

9! oh god and i thought 12 was bad! well i am glad i am not the only one who is confused about what was not nice about what i said.

[kaylar]

Interestingly, I had decided to cease posting in this thread
as it has become one of those 'war zones', where those who
were not raised nor live in a Western Society are being
attacked by those who have been.

It is remarkable to see some of the threads. Many of the topics
are non-existent in non-western nations. The idea of oral sex
is one that is rather new, and the idea that a woman would
swallow ejaculate is unbelievable. Men pay prostitutes to do
that.

As incredible as that is, the completely unheard of anal sex is
a hot topic.

Any study made of the postings to this MB will discern that the
majority are cool with oral sex, with swallowing ejaculate and
anal sex. If you dispute, read the threads.

Read threads in which one finds a great deal of sexual activity
that goes on under the age of eighteen, (majority in the US) and
a great deal that goes on after; with various persons, married
and unmarried.

What I find hysterically funny in the post made by hotdogg is that
not only does she impute that I am someone's dual, (not even the
syntax is the same!) but that I live in America!

Remarkable.

Everywhere is here on the Net. People from China/Australia/
Chile/Jamaica/Kenya/India/Thailand and all points in between
have access to this site.

I don't live in America.
I have been to America, I have relatives who live there, but
it's not my cup of tea.

Outside of the Western world there is no autocratic "Politically
Correct" doctrine, in which we must believe what is currently
the accepted view in London or New York City. We don't. We
tell you what we think. But the mere idea of dissension is
so abhorrent to the Western 'democratic' mind, that the epithet
is hurled that because I don't believe as you do I am therefore
forcing my beliefs on you.

It doesn't work like that.

In my country, buggery, anal sex, is a felony. That is the LAW.
You don't live here, so you can have as much anal sex as you like.

Because I find it abhorrent shouldn't stop your enjoyment of it.
Or is your enjoyment based on my approval or disapproval?

In some countries, among some cultures, virginity is important.
We know in Western nations it is treated as a curable disease.

Values depend on the society you live in.

As long as I live here and you live there, there should be no
conflict.

That we consider our ways superior is part of the usual
patriotism where one group thinks it's olive oil is superior
to another groups.

Living under a society or in a culture, one's 'right and wrong'
are effected by what that culture deems proper and improper.

Smoking, for example is banned in many Western Countries.
It is illegal. People smoke, but not in enclosed public places.
In other parts of the world, smoking is common and people
smoke everywhere.

In the 50s/60s everyone smoked on television or in movies.
Since then, few stars are ever seen smoking in public.

In America, in the 50s and 60s, homosexuality was a felony,
people went to prison for it; in the military the penalty was
fifteen years at Levenworth.

That was the culture in America forty years ago.

Some people have not changed their culture. It is as simple
as that. Some people practice arranged marriages today
as they did in 1907/ 907/ 07 and b.c.e.

It is very childish to impute that everyone lives in the same
place, under the same culture, and has the same ideals.

[nicky2007]

"and the idea that a woman would
swallow ejaculate is unbelievable. Men pay prostitutes to do that."

Men also pay prostitutes for sex,roleplay, hand jobs! some men (although i doubt its many) even pay prostitutes just for their company., So why the hell are you bringing prostitutes into it? Are you trying to
Insinuate that a women who would do this for the man she loves is similar to a prostitute? I take it you also find the thought of a man "licking a women out" unbelieveable aswell.

i undertstand we are both from different cultures so we have different views, but i am offended you related people like me to a prostitute. This is the man i love, someone who i would do anything for, i wouldnt swallow anyone elses cum, but i know hes clean, we share everything from food to baths, so why shouldnt we share this.

[kaylar]

I have not attacked you. I am telling you how it is in
my country. You could just as easily post on the
banning or non-banning of smoking.

The question I am always prompted to ask, is why
does one get defensive when another is describing
a reality in their part of the world?

[housewife]

how is "I believe you are still a child even after you have started your periods." not nice? its a fact! people nowadays start their periods as young as 11, do you no consider someone of 11 a child. i am not exactly sure what you have disliked about my first sentence, unless you mean me calling you naive, if so i did not mean to offend you, but thats my opinion.

When you said "I believe you are still a child" that sounded to me that you were talking about me. fficeffice" />>>
that was a misunderstanding
And >>
Teenagers are not children.>>
any girl who starts her period , could become a mother. >>
>>
Men start to look at them differently; also the girls start to act differently.>>
It is the most scary and critical stage in anyone's life, so we are very careful about protecting teenagers.>>
>>
>>

[nicky2007]

just because you can be a mother does not mean you are not a child, as ravsoma stated she started her periods at 9! would you consider a 9 year old grown up, you still have so much to learn about the world at that age. Also i said "in the cases of arranged marriages" i didnt mean everybody has arranged marriages, but you must admit that arranged marriages do happen in the middle east, as well as in the western world., all i was saying is if a women was raped while she was younger it would effect her potential for being married off, do you not agree, And about the being stoned to death for being a child molester i did admit this was just something i had heard, and that i didnt know how true it was.

Kayler ok i except you not attacking me, i just felt hurt as i felt you compared me to a prostitute, but i except this the view of your country

[nicky2007]

also i dont think has became a war zone, this is just a discussion. nothing has became really personal, have a look at the reaction to drama thread over in the realtionship tab, thats when threads get out of hand . we are completly different people, from completly different worlds, and have completly different views, thats just the way it is. When i log on to this website i am not dreading what i am about to read, but intrested to see what someone has posted, and if my posts have really offended people, i dont mean p***ed people off, but if they have hurt them i am sorry, i never intended that, i dont think anyone did, were all just exchanging opinions, and hopfully learning things.

[kaylar]

I was on a Message Board and happened to
be discussing law and that buggery was
a felony.

This led to my being banned from the
forum for 'homophobia' and 'attacking
gays'.

It struck me so hysterically funny, because
the MB was located in America, the Mods
were American, and there were so many
threads shouting about 'freedom of speech.'

I had said anything.
I quoted a law.

I'm not attacking you, Nicki. I'm just mentioning
that where I live this is how people think and behave.

[nicky2007]

i know your not, i wrote that in my above post

[AngelicBunny]

To avoid conflicts with others.


I appreciate your respect to Islam and to Quran.

I guess the conflict thing is right...

And, well, it's only right that I respect Islam and the Quran, at the end of the day, we're all the same. We all have personal beliefs, opinions etc and we all have the right to be happy with these beliefs, and the way we live.