[kiwi guy]

To clarify a few things with a everyone: Yes Claret, I admit I am bi curious! Yes, I have been offered recently the chance of joining in with a bi sexual couple (younger than me) A male & a female who advertise 'occassionally' in our local newspaper. They were offering themselves as a couple to any others either single / married, straight or bi sexual for fun times .Also they offered themselves for discreet 3somes with just one person (me - the way I would prefer) either male or female who were either straight or bi sexual or just curiuos to explore with them my unusual (?) desires as well Yes, I did contact them (by text messages only- no phone calls were swapped only txting) to get some details from them. I have previously been 'curious' to know what it would be like to interact with a couple who were willing to seduce me on 'my' own terms & agreed on between them & myself. Yes, I have had a few brief previous experiences, but that was many years ago (before I married nearly 30 yrs ago) when I were in my early teens. Yes, I would seriously consider such an offer but I would have certain restrictions on (agreed on beforehand) what occurred & what didnt & what I wouldnt allow.But it would have had to have been a non paying situation where pleasuring was the reward for both parties, not a financial one for them! Yes, I would like to 'oneday' explore some other non payment options if they were (?) offered with very strict conditions discussed before going any further !. I could never ever kiss another guy - because I'm not that way inclined! But would allow certain things for him to perform on me.
Because it was a paying situation, my chance of exploring with my own desires / theirs ,was 'NOT' carried any further than text messages. They did offer a discount price & a shorter length of time being able to join them but I turned it down as non payment is my prefered option! I would also limit the age of the couples I would prefer to interact with.
RE : semen tasting , No I have 'never' attempted it 'yet', but yes I am curious to know what it 'may' taste like -I don't know if that is going too the extreme thru my own curiousity or not? Or, if it's something 'some' guys have tried before just as a dare for themselves or for a partner to watch / or dare 'him' to do??? After all, it's female's who have mentiioned on other threads that they have tasted semen & discribed it openly here! Also the couple 'I' contacted commented that performing oral a 2 once BJ was one of their 'specialties' to which I asked, how a male / female could perform oral on each other when they used condoms for the guy to wear but no type of protection for the females to use when they were recieving It ? They did say there 'is' a safe way for a male or female to perform it on a female, but they wouldn't elaberate! Does 'anyone' know (?)how this is achieved, as I would love to perform it on my wife without her pushing me away from down there again!
I hope this has cleared up some facts for those who enquired about them - regards kiwi guy

[ItsASecret]

To clarify a few things with a everyone: Yes Claret, I admit I am bi curious! Yes, I have been offered recently the chance of joining in with a bi sexual couple (younger than me) A male & a female who advertise 'occassionally' in our local newspaper. They were offering themselves as a couple to any others either single / married, straight or bi sexual for fun times .Also they offered themselves for discreet 3somes with just one person (me - the way I would prefer) either male or female who were either straight or bi sexual or just curiuos to explore with them my unusual (?) desires as well Yes, I did contact them (by text messages only- no phone calls were swapped only txting) to get some details from them. I have previously been 'curious' to know what it would be like to interact with a couple who were willing to seduce me on 'my' own terms & agreed on between them & myself. Yes, I have had a few brief previous experiences, but that was many years ago (before I married nearly 30 yrs ago) when I were in my early teens. Yes, I would seriously consider such an offer but I would have certain restrictions on (agreed on beforehand) what occurred & what didnt & what I wouldnt allow.But it would have had to have been a non paying situation where pleasuring was the reward for both parties, not a financial one for them! Yes, I would like to 'oneday' explore some other non payment options if they were (?) offered with very strict conditions discussed before going any further !. I could never ever kiss another guy - because I'm not that way inclined! But would allow certain things for him to perform on me.
Because it was a paying situation, my chance of exploring with my own desires / theirs ,was 'NOT' carried any further than text messages. They did offer a discount price & a shorter length of time being able to join them but I turned it down as non payment is my prefered option! I would also limit the age of the couples I would prefer to interact with.

In all this you did not once mention anything about your wife or what her thoughts are on you having a bi sexual fantasy or curiosity to the point of contacting a newspaper service.

They did say there 'is' a safe way for a male or female to perform it on a female, but they wouldn't elaberate!

It is called a dental dam, a thin piece of stretchy rubber placed over the vagina. Very unattractive but it will reduce the chance of orally catching a disease.

[kiwi guy]

No, my wife is not into such things & never will be. Even if I did - just for one time only in my life - have such an experience - but I'm possibly just being a dreamer- I would never tell my wife, as I have options during the day / night time hours that would allow me the chance to maybe have those chances if able. Yes I do work unusual nightly hours to recieve an income - but my hours do vary occassionaly & I do arrive home at various times - sometimes a lot later than normal, due to workloads & delivery arrivals etc. Some of my past life , my wife has been told about - even just after we first met. She has some things she experienced in her young day. We were still virgins when we met & married. I did not even have any girls for sex partners before I married. I never had any anal type sex with the person I knew either. We just were curious about each others bodies. We were young at the time, I sure others on these forums may have experienced the same thing - - sometime in their own pasts? If so, let them admit it if they choose? No details needed.

[kiwi guy]

Well , I never knew something like that existed. Thanks for that useful information ItsAsecret. Are they available from chemist / health providers?
Maybe that's what I could purchase sometime to allow my wife to recieve oral & so we can both enjoy it without her freaking out about me going down there - safely! You sure learn something new everyday. Many thanks again !

[katzintheclouds]

I'm really starting to question motivation here for these posts.

[jns]

As for your original question, there was a thread or two within the last two years that had several guys affirming a situation such as I talked about.

[acerousme]

Leave the modding to us moderators. Thank you JNS for keeping us on topic.

[Claret]

In reply to your response to me -- if you did go ahead and experiment with some of your desires - would you now consider this cheating on your wife? How do you feel about doing that? No matter if it's a discrete afternoon, one-time deal, it's still cheating unless your wife agrees to participate with you, and given what you've told us I think it highly unlikely that she will do so.
At this juncture, I think you need to really sit down, tell you wife all of your feelings from what you want, what you feel you need to explore and what you are willing to settle for and/or compromise with in your marriage. Then if something comes of your feelings she won't feel completely blind-sided if and when it happens and she finds out.

[BabyGirl]

No, my wife is not into such things & never will be. Even if I did - just for one time only in my life - have such an experience - but I'm possibly just being a dreamer- I would never tell my wife, as I have options during the day / night time hours that would allow me the chance to maybe have those chances if able.

I also ,like Claret, think of this as Cheating, not the Fantasy, but if you ever act on it.

You state you wife is not into this kind of Exploration and never will be.

Have you sat down with your Wife of 30 years and explained these Fantasies or Dreams of ?
You are nearing 50, this could be the " Mid Life Crisis", wanting the things you now think you should have could have done. Some of this I base on the mention of Younger Women or Couples. Yet in your age, you are steadfast on protection and not paying for it. Which is a good thing (the protection part).

The Not paying for it also give to some values that you would not pay a Hooker or two gals or even a gay man to have sex with you . Which, brings me to ask..

What do you have to give them in return ? Are you very Experienced in a certain act of Love Making ? As you say, you want it pleasurable for all involved. So if you are not proficient in Anal or Oral or Normal, are you just wanting to Experience New things for Free ?

To me that would be a Student wanting or needing a Teacher or Teachers. Not having to pay for Classes. Now there are things you can try that are New and a Fantasy but most will need to pay for the lessons they need to do it safely, have the proper equipment and such.

Say Han-gliding or rock climbing is a Fantasy. Not many are willing to Train you for Free. One may lower a fee for First timers, but if you want to continue, you will be charge for their Professionalism.

On the I would never tell her , have opportunities if I had the Chance. ..Just, screams out to me..
Willing to Cheat, Sneak, Lie and Hide.Instead of Talking and Sharing with you wife of 30 years.

One other Though.

Would you consider a Threesome with an Older Couple or Older Women or a Couple of older Gay or Lesbian s ?
Say in their early 70's ? If it was Free ?
If it cost nothing but Enjoyment on all Parties ?
They will most likely teach you for Free Love on that one if you can please them.

And would you share that with your Wife, if you Did interact with older ones in Sexual Fantasies ?

You see when it is reversed, things may look different, at least Sexually. Your Wife may look and think Differently than 30 years ago, You also seem to Look different and THINK Differently than 30 years ago.

From Experience... Kiwi, when Growing Older Together, It means Together. Our Bodies Change, our Emotions Change, our Sexuality Changes or Slows. Our Desires and Memories and Experiences Change.

But Together we chose to Be. With Honesty, with Love and with Respect !!
Your wife may not know all of the things you Fantasize about.
But you can sure talk about a little more Spice in your Sexual life with her .
She may have a few "Spice Idea's" herself . * Wink* that you don't know about .

Her ..
I should have Could have. at 50ish

Dreamed or Fantasized about even Sexually, most likely hasn't anything to do with Anal,seeing her man taste his own Semen, watching or Joining any other couple in an Orgy of swap partners. Hearing about her Hubby's extra Curricular, past or future Love relationships, her kids sex life and so on .


Tendency to Boredom nor not staying connected in all parts of Love.
May be an Issue.

Then 30 years Married . Is a Pride on Both sides.
Of Fantasy's

[kiwi guy]

I will respond to some questions: Yes, it would be considered cheating , yes it is a mid life crisis (I'm now 52) situation I'm unfortunately going thru. Ok,yes I have to admit, I would like to experience new sexual things, but I don't know if I would go thru with them or not- hence the word -curious- in some of my threads. My wife use to (in our very early years of marriage) be one to initiate sex on rare occassions. I have since been the one who always has had to start things off instead. That has been a bit of a negative for me thou as I would like her to seduce me somehow without warning as I would find it a major turn on! That has been a fantasy. Oneday recently, I gave her either a shock ? or surprise ? when I went into the bedroom (one afternoon) while she was changing her clothes (ready to go shopping) & asked her to be daring for a change (in daytime hours) & to stay a home for an hour or so be intimate together. We mainly make love at nights occassionally after I arrive home from work - if she's willing & if she's still awake? So for us to have sex in daytime hours is very rare - that's why I dared her to - it is one of my fantasies I have at times. (We have done this once before thou - I suggested it, not her). I asked her to seduce me by fully undressing me (in stages) while I did the same to her. She agreed, but was only then prepared to take certain clothes off me. I had to take the rest of my clothes off myself instead, which was not what I had planned from the start. I wanted to experience her completely undressing me & then letting things proceed to another stage - foreplay. She has since also admitted now, that doesn't like touching certain parts of me if I'm not wearing a condom, just in case I cum on her hand. We have now talked that subject over & have made certain rules.

NB: I wear condoms for intercourse as she had side effects with oral contraceptives after our last child was born - 19yrs ago. We both agreed that I use condoms after that.

So now the next time she is ready for playing, she has agreed to start things off somehow! I'm looking forward to that. - but that's a few weeks away thou - her monthly has arrived ! Yes, also one of my fantasies is to recieve oral sex from her or me to her. Now that I now their is a safe way (dental dam) hopefully, she might agree to it? But she will never perform it on me - not her thing at all. So we compromise now! Yes, I now how to put a bit of spice in our lives - daytime sex on rare occassions, & anything else I think she may like? ie:sextoys (dildo, duo balls , vibrator). Yes she does agree to the use of certain toys but others she prefers the natuaral thing instead. I do always tend to get very aroused just by using sextoys to seduce her, more than intercourse - sometimes. Sometimes I just like using toys instead of even having sex - just for a change for her! I do have my own toys I have bought or made & experiment with them as well but that's done only when my wife is not home over a few hours. Yes, I would like to experience anal type sex from someone (either using a penis or a strap on ?) but would prefer it from someone who is open minded about this method. No, my wife is not into this from of sex at all ie: allowing me to perform it or touch her their either or her knowing other people do perform it on others. Possibly that is why I thourougly enjoy using my own toys / objects in that area for my own erotic enjoyment & other types of toys as well. I did a few years ago, ask my wife to touch herself down below just to get me aroused watching, but she's competely the opposite to me when it comes to masturbating / pleasuring herself. I recently told her to feel my pubic area, she never looks down there for usual & got a bit of a shock when she did felt it & discovered I were completely shaven! She queried it as she never knew guys did that & why I had as well. I have done it off & on for a few years now & yes, it is more sensitive when touched. She says, why remove (hair) what is there normally & was given to me in the first place? I just like the effect & look it has - what purpose does pubic hair serve - it's like a woman who shaves under her arms ?I hope this will now prove in some ways that I do have a good positive normal sex life (?) but have also openly mentioned things I enjoy or would consider or would I go thru with my so called fantasies if they were oneday offered? Topic now closed???
If the administrators now wish to close (?) this thread I will fully understand their actions! I do have another question on a another totally different thread topic posted elsewhere on health (hernia's) just to show I am not just a member for posting / replying to sex topics!