[Stillness]

Fluids are not equal so no fluids are not fluids. In the body blood is a fluid and so is spit but would you want to have a mouthful, not a small amount, of either of that from your partner just because it is also a fluid?

As a man, how do you know you might not get blood or some of all the other stuff that's prone to come out from between a woman's legs at random times? I've read a lot of the sections of this forum, but I had to stop reading the "Menstrual Cycle" so I wouldn't be scarred for life. Frankly I don't know if I stopped soon enough. I'm not trying to be crude, but there is enough nasty to go around.

I had this buddy who's girlfriend took his virginity and introduced him to oral sex. She begged him to return the favor, but he refused because it was "different." She kept upping it. She let him climax in her mouth, but it was still "different." Then she swallowed, yet somehow still "different." "That's just nasty," he'd tell me (that giving oral sex to a woman was nasty and made you a weakling was a prevailing sentiment in our subculture in the early 90's). He ended up catching her in her car with a forward-thinking young man that disagreed with the prevailing view as indicated by his head between her legs. She did love him and tried to make it right, but he couldn't get the image out of his head. With his next girlfriend it suddenly wasn't so "different" anymore. He learned that fair is fair and what's good for the goose is good for the gander. So did I, at his expense.

A lot of men won't say what seems obvious to some of the ladies here. Having someone stop before you get off because it's unpleasant to them is unpleasant. Especially if your face is going to smell like a vagina for the next day because you tried to please them.

[AshB$]

Sorry ladies.. I am totally siding with the guys.

[ItsASecret]

As a man, how do you know you might not get blood or some of all the other stuff that's prone to come out from between a woman's legs at random times? I've read a lot of the sections of this forum, but I had to stop reading the "Menstrual Cycle" so I wouldn't be scarred for life. Frankly I don't know if I stopped soon enough. I'm not trying to be crude, but there is enough nasty to go around.

lol there is often the choice by men to avoid going down on a woman during her menstrual cycle because of this scarring for life. There is no way to tell if she is going to spot during oral on a non menstrual day but there is a chance anyway. If he wants some blood and uterine lining in his mouth though when she is on her cycle then who is to stop him? I personally tell my bf absolutely no going down on me during that week because of courtesy, I sure would not want him to have to have an accidental amount of blood or other "nasties" in his mouth. Couple those potential nasties with the more smell simply because of the actual cycle symptoms and it can be a lesser exciting time for a man to go down on a woman.

I had this buddy who's girlfriend took his virginity and introduced him to oral sex. She begged him to return the favor, but he refused because it was "different." She kept upping it. She let him climax in her mouth, but it was still "different." Then she swallowed, yet somehow still "different." "That's just nasty," he'd tell me (that giving oral sex to a woman was nasty and made you a weakling was a prevailing sentiment in our subculture in the early 90's). He ended up catching her in her car with a forward-thinking young man that disagreed with the prevailing view as indicated by his head between her legs. She did love him and tried to make it right, but he couldn't get the image out of his head. With his next girlfriend it suddenly wasn't so "different" anymore. He learned that fair is fair and what's good for the goose is good for the gander. So did I, at his expense.

Some men do think that way and no matter how much begging or acts a woman may do for him he may still be very stuck on his opinion until he decides to change his mind about it all. Same applies to women who will accept oral sex like crazy but entirely refuse to go down on her SO. It is up to the individual to decide to do the act whatever it may be.

Having someone stop before you get off because it's unpleasant to them is unpleasant. Especially if your face is going to smell like a vagina for the next day because you tried to please them.

I would also consider it unpleasant to be told or expected to do something one did not want to do such as taking cum in the mouth and swallowing everything. There is an element of respect for the partner that one should uphold if said partner truly feels uncomfortable about an act. That is where compromise comes into play. The vagina face made me laugh lol but a shower fixes the problem just like it does with semen on the face or in the mouth.

[Stillness]

I agree that no one should be forced to do anything. And I'm not trying to come into anyone's bedroom and tell them how to do their thing. I'm just saying that there's a very good chance that a person who's going all out has considered the unfairness if their partner does not because it's unpleasant to them. It'd be like a guy saying, "Well I can get off by pumping in and out for 2 minutes so since you take longer, that's too bad." If he's into pleasing his woman, he's willing to hold her sideways with his hip twisted for 1/2 hour so she can get off too.

People may not share things if a relationship is not particularly open or if there are other strains. I'm so happy when I'm getting some that I don't complain about anything even if things didn't go exactly like I'd hoped. It's just an FYI.

The vagina face made me laugh lol but a shower fixes the problem

It does not, IAS. I smell like sex for at least a day after and sometimes more. Showering does not take away that scent completely. It's not a problem though, because I love my woman and her smell. When my day is going bad I just smell my fingers and think of good times.

[AshB$]

When my day is going bad I just smell my fingers and think of good times.

LOL!!!!

[Hugo-B]

I've never had a problem going down on a woman at any time of the month, my only stipulation before going down on a woman is that she be clean. I've done it before and never had any problems, it's usually the woman who, out of self consciousness won't let me do this.

As far as the spitting v swallowing, as 'It's a secret' astutely observed from one of my posts I am (as a 'boy') quite heavily influenced by porn when it comes to receiving oral sex and cumming. (porn doesn't influence me with regards to having sex/making love.) A BJ to me just feels SOOOOOO nice, I'm un-circumcised (a lot of men in the UK are) so my glans is very sensitive, this probably has a lot to do with it; I LOVE watching a girl do the business and seeing myself cum in her mouth is the perfect way to complete the experience, I just find the feeling of cumming in a girls mouth really erotic, and watching her swallow it all is the icing on the cake. It's like swallowing is her way of proving to me she's determined to have my cum inside of her even if it doesn't travel via the 'traditional' route.

As I said I've got no problem if she doesn't want to swallow, but I'd just prefer to cum somewhere so she doesn't have to spit it out. I used the withdrawal method for years with my first GF, so because I never had the option of cumming inside her, (I'd only cum inside a girl a handful of times by the time I was 25) I took great pleasure In getting creative by pulling out and cumming all over different parts of her body which is what made it the complete 'norm' for me. We used to play 'games' where she'd tell me exactly where had to cum and wouldn't tell me until I had just pulled out her, it was pretty cool actually, often it was in her mouth and she'd swallow, other times it would be the typical 'boy' places like her breasts or bottom, or if she was on all fours, her back.

If a girl doesn't want to swallow, there is still plenty of scope for fun if you both get creative about it.

[Hugo-B]

After reading some of the posts above I would just like to add that as man, I think it is very unreasonable to expect a woman to choke, suck, and gag on you for however long, only to be rewarded by swallowing a mouthful of cum and not be prepared to return the favor. A woman is on her period for what, a week? Most women won't even expect you to go down on her when she's 'on', just the other three weeks, spunk fires out 24/7, 365 days a year! I've swallowed my own cum, and gone down on a woman when she's 'on', so I do not need to postulate here, based on personal experience swallowing cum IS more unpleasant than going down on a woman when she's 'on'.

Boys, do your duty if you want the booty!

[Bug_Lady]

Can I just say that the thought of my bf eating me out on my period is disgusting to me? He claims that he loves going down on me and actually tries to a lot and I don't let him. I'm always worried that I haven't showered recently enough or haven't shaved in a while and am definitely self-conscious about it. Trying to imagine what it would be like to go down on a girl grosses me out, too. I guess that's how I know I am irrevocably straight lol. So, in my opinion the guys have it but that might be from my own disgust of being in another woman's vagina lol

[LittlePip]

Can I just say that the thought of my bf eating me out on my period is disgusting to me? He claims that he loves going down on me and actually tries to a lot and I don't let him. I'm always worried that I haven't showered recently enough or haven't shaved in a while and am definitely self-conscious about it. Trying to imagine what it would be like to go down on a girl grosses me out, too. I guess that's how I know I am irrevocably straight lol. So, in my opinion the guys have it but that might be from my own disgust of being in another woman's vagina lol

It would be nice to have some warning, wouldn't it? I love having my BF's head between my legs, when I know I am 100% clean and fresh, anything less and the whole thing is a waste of time. Women have so many more nooks and crannies then men. Just sayin!

[AshB$]

I have no problem having sex while on my period but I don't think my fiance would go down on me.
I kind of want to ask though lol
I don't mind swallowing his cum. Doesn't bother me one bit. I'd NEVER do it to anyone else though. So in my opinion, whether it's "nasty" or not, depends on the guy. Anyone else besides my true love, I'd rather die.