[Claret]

I think Obelisk will agree with me on this: It would sometimes (too often?) seem that the only chance an average-to-small-sized guy has against a large-sized guy is that the large-sized guy is a jerk and/or a bad lover (given the average-to-small-sized guy is not a jerk and/or bad lover, himself). Like, if a guy does not have much experience in lovemaking (read: not a lot of know-how), and does only have a small-to-average-sized penis, and has a bit of a challenging personality (due to something that happened to him in the past), then his chances of finding someone to be with would be slim-to-non-existent.

I do realize that the same would be true for a guy with a large-sized penis, but at least in his case there is a chance of the girls looking back and remembering how full they felt with his penis even if he did not know how to use it. (I am sorry, I do not know what I am saying any more)

What you're saying to me is that you expect the first thing to transpire between the man and the woman is that they have sex and that the penis is the first thing the woman has seen and which is why she has decided to have sex with him. NOT TRUE. The first thing women do is see all the exterior packaging. If she likes the wrapper she may want to know what there is inside. This is done by talking to him, going out with him, seeing if she is having fun with him, seeing if she agrees with his ideas or not and on and on to determine whether or not there is a basis for an on-going relationship. This can be done in a relatively short period of time, or it could take months to years - who knows? Then, and only then does she decide to see if they are compatible sexually.

I'm not talking about any one-night stands here, although the same thought patterns are in play, the difference being is that two people are just hooking up for a night, and they are not looking for a long-lasting relationship. But they first see the outside (clothing, hair, eyes, smile) then they get to know a bit at least about the inside (character, sense of humour, likes, dislikes, work, religion, ethics etc) prior to taking their clothing off to see whether or not he has a "big enough package". Most women are not so shallow and there would be another reason entirely for them to back away from the relationship.

[somerandomguy]

What you're saying to me is that you expect the first thing to transpire between the man and the woman is that they have sex and that the penis is the first thing the woman has seen and which is why she has decided to have sex with him. NOT TRUE. The first thing women do is see all the exterior packaging. If she likes the wrapper she may want to know what there is inside. This is done by talking to him, going out with him, seeing if she is having fun with him, seeing if she agrees with his ideas or not and on and on to determine whether or not there is a basis for an on-going relationship. This can be done in a relatively short period of time, or it could take months to years - who knows? Then, and only then does she decide to see if they are compatible sexually.

I'm not talking about any one-night stands here, although the same thought patterns are in play, the difference being is that two people are just hooking up for a night, and they are not looking for a long-lasting relationship. But they first see the outside (clothing, hair, eyes, smile) then they get to know a bit at least about the inside (character, sense of humour, likes, dislikes, work, religion, ethics etc) prior to taking their clothing off to see whether or not he has a "big enough package". Most women are not so shallow and there would be another reason entirely for them to back away from the relationship.

I was talking from a relationship point-of-view. At least the guy with the bigger package can get regular one-night-stands. Like, "I will not present you to my parents, but I will 'eff' the 'sh' out of you tonight".

[lizzardb63]

I was talking from a relationship point-of-view. At least the guy with the bigger package can get regular one-night-stands. Like, "I will not present you to my parents, but I will 'eff' the 'sh' out of you tonight".

So...do these men with big penises just go around showing it off and THAT'S how they get one night stands? Hmm... I'm pretty sure it's an even playing field for men of all different sizes. Usually you don't find out the size until you're having sex.

[lizzardb63]

What you're saying to me is that you expect the first thing to transpire between the man and the woman is that they have sex and that the penis is the first thing the woman has seen and which is why she has decided to have sex with him. NOT TRUE. The first thing women do is see all the exterior packaging. If she likes the wrapper she may want to know what there is inside. This is done by talking to him, going out with him, seeing if she is having fun with him, seeing if she agrees with his ideas or not and on and on to determine whether or not there is a basis for an on-going relationship. This can be done in a relatively short period of time, or it could take months to years - who knows? Then, and only then does she decide to see if they are compatible sexually.

I'm not talking about any one-night stands here, although the same thought patterns are in play, the difference being is that two people are just hooking up for a night, and they are not looking for a long-lasting relationship. But they first see the outside (clothing, hair, eyes, smile) then they get to know a bit at least about the inside (character, sense of humour, likes, dislikes, work, religion, ethics etc) prior to taking their clothing off to see whether or not he has a "big enough package". Most women are not so shallow and there would be another reason entirely for them to back away from the relationship.

I completely agree. There's no way for a woman to even KNOW (except through the grapevine and even then it might not be true) if a man has a large or small penis. Women make their judgements to sleep with men based off of attraction and connection. If a woman has sex with a man solely because she hears his penis is big, well that would make her promiscuous, and that does not count for the majority of the female population. My husbands ex told people he had a small penis when they broke up which isn't true...sometime what you hear isn't always the truth.

[Claret]

I was talking from a relationship point-of-view. At least the guy with the bigger package can get regular one-night-stands. Like, "I will not present you to my parents, but I will 'eff' the 'sh' out of you tonight".

Okay. Lets suppose a woman is sitting at a bar, having a nice quiet drink. Two men walk in, (twins - identical). One man holds his head up high, is clean shaven (perhaps just a bit of stubble - he just got off work) but still smells of his shower. He still makes eye contact with the woman, smiles, walks confidently over and says hello. The second twin walks in with shoulders slightly down, doesn't make eye contact with the woman, doesn't smile and shuffles over to her and says hello. By the way he hasn't shaved in say two days and hasn't had a shower for two days - but he's hung like a horse and his twin is just average. Who do you think will be able to take the woman out on a date? or take her home to bed for that matter on the first date?

[rcoreyus]

OK I'm confused - how is it that women are supposed to know a man's penis size before they have sex? Is there an Iphone app or something? I guess if the guy shows up in a huge jacked-up 4WD truck with giant chrome exhaust pipes she may have a clue......

[somerandomguy]

I completely agree. There's no way for a woman to even KNOW (except through the grapevine and even then it might not be true) if a man has a large or small penis. Women make their judgements to sleep with men based off of attraction and connection. If a woman has sex with a man solely because she hears his penis is big, well that would make her promiscuous, and that does not count for the majority of the female population. My husbands ex told people he had a small penis when they broke up which isn't true...sometime what you hear isn't always the truth.

When you say it, it sounds like you are just trying to comfort people (or uphold the image of size not mattering among women), given your husband has a larger-than-average penis. It is like a guy with a Ferrari going "Speed is not all there is to a car".

[somerandomguy]

Okay. Lets suppose a woman is sitting at a bar, having a nice quiet drink. Two men walk in, (twins - identical). One man holds his head up high, is clean shaven (perhaps just a bit of stubble - he just got off work) but still smells of his shower. He still makes eye contact with the woman, smiles, walks confidently over and says hello. The second twin walks in with shoulders slightly down, doesn't make eye contact with the woman, doesn't smile and shuffles over to her and says hello. By the way he hasn't shaved in say two days and hasn't had a shower for two days - but he's hung like a horse and his twin is just average. Who do you think will be able to take the woman out on a date? or take her home to bed for that matter on the first date?

You do have a point. But, what if both twins are clean, confident and well groomed?

[FortunsFoole]

But, what if both twins are clean, confident and well groomed?

It would then depend on who I had the most intriguing and/or amusing conversation with. If everything is a mirror image of each other, including the conversation? Then it's a game of eeny, meeny, miny, mo. Or I guess they could rock/paper/scissors. Short of them showing up with their genitals exposed before even having a conversation, there's no way to know.

Now if they showed up with their genitals exposed like that? I would run because that's just creepy.

[kira]

Best sex ever last night with my average 6" penis husband. He sucked my clit until I was wiggling around on the bed then started with slow penetration until I was biting my lip before finally speeding up. By the time he came I ended up orgasming so hard I was arching against him for probably a whole minute until it subsided. And the wet spot ended up on his side of the bed. :P