[Stillness]

Stillness, I think the jealousy exists but is very mild.

There's a part of me that understands that. It's probably the same part of me that would like having sex with multiple women or a harem. I believe the relationship can be fun and loving and you could work out rules to make it last. But, it's like playing with fire and not getting burned. You'd have to be special and it's still not likely.

And it's one of those situations where you can't have it both ways. You can't have an open relationship and the depth of connection that can only come with exclusivity. Even if two or more women seems exciting, one who's crazy about me and me alone is my ultimate fantasy for that very reason.

There's an economy to love. Each person has to figure out what they want and what they're willing to sacrifice to have it. There's always sacrifice.

[DreamP346]

After watching this thread, I think this is the situation (Lovcookie, correct me if I am wrong).

You and your partner are both comfortable with open relationship, however you both would prefer it to be different. For you, it's a strictly sexual thing. Fun to have sex with other people, especially when they can be very different than you girlfriend. However, it doesn't appear to be a necessity for your relationship. For your girlfriend, it's not just the sex alone. There is an emotional element too. She has feelings for this other women. She seems to be good friends with her already. I recall you mentioning her going on vacations with this woman. So a good friend she can go on vacations with and have sex with. Hmm, that sounds like a romantic partner.

What your girlfriend wants is a polyamorous relationship that is beyond sex and has specific boundaries. I am guessing that wasn't really what you were looking for, although I'm not sure you wouldn't be into it.

It's definitely time you guys sit down and have a long conversation. First think about what you want, what you are willing to compromise on and what are absolute deal-breakers. I do believe relationships are about compromise and negotiations. It's not about "what do I get if I give you this" but about figuring out what each wants, what we are willing to give to make the other person happy and what the other person is willing to do for you. Sometimes you give and don't expect anything in return. For example, you way decide that your girlfriend can have a relationship with this other woman, but you don't have sex with anybody else. That is the negotiation. It's not a *** for tat deal.

Good luck

[Lovcookie]

sp346 The woman she visited was a different friend. This woman was the first woman my GF introduced a threesome to me with as she was staying over visiting. Later my GF went to visit her.

Now my GF suggested a foursome. Three women and me. I was shocked but maybe I should not be. The lesbian wants a piece of the blonde but the blonde wants me back in the mix.
Knowing my GF she will make it happen some how. That's the thing about sex. You may make a stand on something but in the heat of a moment all can go out the window.

[atskitty2]

Lovcookie, do you not want to partake in the foursome?

[Lovcookie]

Part of me does and part of me does not. If my GF presents the situation in front of me I would probably cave in a go for it. The part that does not want to do it is the part of me that says "where is all this leading too". Best not have the temptation in front of me. But if the three are doing it in our place I will get involved. I think if I ended up cumming inside the lesbian the blonde would not really like it. My GF would be fine with this (both that the blond would not like me cumming in the lesbian and that my GF is fine with me cumming inside her lesbian stepsister). To be honest that is likely what would happen because hers feels amazing. If the blonde agrees to having the lesbian there then she will want most of the time with me and watch the two Asian girls go at it. This is my belief. In our previous threesomes we all get some of each other. This one maybe different.

[jen1447]

Yeah, I never really cared for foursomes because you end up just pairing off or it's basically an orgy - people just sort of wandering around in an openly sexualized environment with all but the most superficial intimacy drained out of it. Weird.

[atskitty2]

I guess I just keep getting this vibe that you really are sort of "over" the concept of sharing. Your general attitude and choice of words makes me think that. Almost seems like you're feeling obligated or are just trying to do what makes your gf happy, to keep her around.
I just think, if you don't want to do something, don't do it. If you aren't 100% into it, sit out a round or two.
I could be off base, but if in doubt, don't.
I tend to live by that in general.