[jns]

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[Something_Awesome]

So, apparently while I was away from work for a week three new-hires were brought on. One of them is a Korean girl who's first day was last Friday. Today was supposed to be her second day at work but she could not make it because "she partied real hard at her friend's bachelorette party in Vegas." This automatically freaked me out because there were nothing but Asians on the second floor of the strip club and I know I stood out like a sore thumb since I was the only guy there. I didn't really eyeball any of the girls on the second floor so I am sure I wouldn't recognize her if she was in fact at that strip club.

I know what you all are thinking, that the odds that this girl was at that club are slim; however coincidences like this always happen to me. There were a boatload of Asian girls there and there is a real chance she was there which would be embarrassing as heck (that I was caught with male strippers). These girls did appear to be partying hard as well. I picture this Korean girl getting in good with the girl I accidentally sexted and saying "hey, btw, I saw that guy at a male strip club." Then the girl I sexted will respond by saying "Really? He accidentally texted me saying he wanted his GF to hit his balls."

The only reason I have doubts about her not being at that strip club is that EDC was going on at Vegas this past weekend which is essentially a HUGE rave. You guys are probably also thinking it's nothing to be embarrassed about but it's embarrassing to me. I probably won't be going to work tomorrow so I won't know that this Korean girl saw me until Wednesday. But in any case I probably would not recognize her and would be stuck wondering if she was there at the club as I doubt she would approach me about it anyway.

I told my GF about it and she thought the prospect if this new girl being there was hilarious, but I haven't told her about the sexting issue I had. Once I heard she was Korean and didn't show up because she partied hard in Vegas for a bachelorette party, I thought to myself FML... again!

[jen1447]

SumSum, relax! That's an order lol. If a Korean girl sees you at a male strip club with your GF, she won't conclude you're gay. She'll conclude you're at a male strip club with your GF. BF/GF = not gay. She's also probably just as unlikely to recognize you as you are her.

Is that the end of the story? I was expecting some grand finale like SAGF actually went total lesbo and slept with all the women at the club.

Anyway it was a good story, no worries. You use paragraphs well lol, so it's easy to read, plus we're all riveted by SAGF's exploits. As far as her antics at the strip club go, not sure if this will secretly disappoint you or what (since you seem to crave the things you deny you crave ), but I don't see any lesbian/bi red flags there really. She may have appreciated some of the womens' beauty abstractly, but it sounds like she was mainly just having a good time, made better by the alcohol. Even the grab-butt, booby smash, stripper groping stuff sounds benign frankly. Women do that at strip clubs now quite a lot (tho it does sound like she was quite a find for them, which is cool). Anyway women who react like that at strip clubs are mainly just having a good time and partying. What I would have been more alerted by is if she was more restrained but looked like she had something going on inside her, inner turmoil or what have you. I can tell you from my experience at least that when I lust for a woman I don't get all hyper-active, I start doing a slow burn that slowly gets hotter and hotter and leaves me kind of fidgeting and in fits, not jumping around. So I think SAGF 'passed' her bisexual test lol.

It's cute how she wanted to save the strippers of the world, and I think I understand what caused that (alcohol, her natural inclination to sympathy, and some level of bonding with them), but I wouldn't expect to hear much more about that lol.

And it's great she actually got a lap dance! I have to hand it to SAGF for open-mindedness ....a lot of straight women have trouble integrating the concepts of acceptance and participation, but it sounds like SAGF is just fine on that score. Good for her. And btw it sounds like you did good too. Did you provide all the dancing/tip cash and buy the drinks?

[Something_Awesome]

Is that the end of the story? I was expecting some grand finale like SAGF actually went total lesbo and slept with all the women at the club.

I know I thought all the crying was a good finale but I didn't present it well. I got restless at the end. I am sure a lot of it had to do with the alcohol. If she drinks too much (which is not often, even though it's easy for her to drink too much given her tolerance level) she can cry.

As far as her antics at the strip club go, not sure if this will secretly disappoint you or what (since you seem to crave the things you deny you crave ), but I don't see any lesbian/bi red flags there really.

I don't know if you were joking or not, but it may be something I crave simply because I ought to be denied it. Though I think I just wanted to see her have a good time and to test our bond. She had doubts about going because she did not know how I was going to behave and I know it scared her a tad. I knew how I was going to be so I knew she had nothing to be scared of. I also think that I partly wanted to go because if she had any lesbian curiosity she could just release it right there and be done with it (yes, I know this could have backfired, but I'm a risk taker).

She may have appreciated some of the womens' beauty abstractly, but it sounds like she was mainly just having a good time, made better by the alcohol.

I agree.

What I would have been more alerted by is if she was more restrained but looked like she had something going on inside her, inner turmoil or what have you.

OMG I get what you're saying. I was eyeballing a married couple and the woman looked like she had that "inner turmoil" thing going on. They honestly both looked very tense and tight and like they were having trouble loosening up and having a good time. They looked like they were in their 40's.

I can tell you from my experience at least that when I lust for a woman I don't get all hyper-active, I start doing a slow burn that slowly gets hotter and hotter and leaves me kind of fidgeting and in fits, not jumping around.

Interesting. A slow burn?

It's cute how she wanted to save the strippers of the world, and I think I understand what caused that (alcohol, her natural inclination to sympathy, and some level of bonding with them), but I wouldn't expect to hear much more about that lol.

Yup. I have not heard about it since that night.

And it's great she actually got a lap dance! I have to hand it to SAGF for open-mindedness ....a lot of straight women have trouble integrating the concepts of acceptance and participation, but it sounds like SAGF is just fine on that score. Good for her. And btw it sounds like you did good too. Did you provide all the dancing/tip cash and buy the drinks?

She got the dance after she was done with her drinks, so I don't think she would have turned anything down lol. I will say that I did try to stop her after 4 drinks but it was not a battle I was able to win. Like I've mentioned, she generally is not that much of an alpha outside of the bedroom, but she was when I tried to keep her from those drinks. She has only over-consumed alcohol with me like two other times in our 3.5 years and each time I tried to stop her I was not able to. The waitress had already brought the drinks and I tried to physically keep her from getting the drink but I was afraid I would hurt her so I just let her win.

And of course I provided all the cash! And guess what! I saw a few women dig through their purses. One of them was with another guy (they sat to my left). OMG you were right it looked sooo distasteful. What I did was keep all the cash under the napkins they were bringing for the drinks and when the supply got low, I would replenish from my pocket. I also advised her to never tip only a dollar at a time to the dancers (a lot of people were doing that). I dunno, I feel bad only tipping one dollar at a time. Like I'm saying "here, you're only worth a dollar. If you dance more I will give you one extra dollar."

I Think a lot of strippers are often students in LA who drive to Vegas for the weekend to help pay for school. Come to think of it, lack of implants may be an indicator of this (they do not need the implants because adult entertainment is not their priority in life). I told my GF that a lot of the girls are probably students (before we went to the club) which I know had at least a little something to do with her crying.

[jen1447]

Interesting. A slow burn?

Yeah. Like if I were in a social setting and spotted a woman who made me hot, my first thought wouldn't be to go smack her butt. I'd get 'hot under the collar,' probably get a little quiet trying to deal with my arousal, fail at dealing with my arousal, start lubricating, start feeling the sex ache, get even more inwardly excited emotionally, etc. The way I usually resolve that is to move on her, because then I'm doing something with all that energy and I'm able to refocus and regain control. If I were forced to sit there and do nothing (would have to mean I was tied down lol), you probably wouldn't notice anything was amiss (unless you knew me) until I got to the point where I couldn't control my body anymore and started outwardly ....lol, betraying my arousal.

And of course I provided all the cash! And guess what! I saw a few women dig through their purses. One of them was with another guy (they sat to my left). OMG you were right it looked sooo distasteful. What I did was keep all the cash under the napkins they were bringing for the drinks and when the supply got low, I would replenish from my pocket. I also advised her to never tip only a dollar at a time to the dancers (a lot of people were doing that). I dunno, I feel bad only tipping one dollar at a time. Like I'm saying "here, you're only worth a dollar. If you dance more I will give you one extra dollar."

Aw, I feel bad for that woman. Not so much distasteful like a seedy thing, but undignified - specifically in that her man didn't have the wherewithal to keep her above that. But good job on your part! I'm sure you scored points with SAGF, and she was publicly treated like she should be. No one who was in the club that night will tell that purse-digging story about you.

Also good thinking on tipping large (if you can afford it). That's probably why they were giving you the love, really. I agree - that setting just isn't one for being frugal. If you've got money issues, you shouldn't be there at all. Last time I was at a strip club and got a lap dance, I gave the girl $100. For one dance. It wasn't about me being 'large,' it was about me not worrying about money. I only got one dance anyway, and it showed I respected her and wanted to treat her well, which she appreciated. (Plus she 'earned' it in that she was gorgeous.)

[Something_Awesome]

Yeah. Like if I were in a social setting and spotted a woman who made me hot, my first thought wouldn't be to go smack her butt. I'd get 'hot under the collar,' probably get a little quiet trying to deal with my arousal, fail at dealing with my arousal, start lubricating, start feeling the sex ache, get even more inwardly excited emotionally, etc. The way I usually resolve that is to move on her, because then I'm doing something with all that energy and I'm able to refocus and regain control. If I were forced to sit there and do nothing (would have to mean I was tied down lol), you probably wouldn't notice anything was amiss (unless you knew me) until I got to the point where I couldn't control my body anymore and started outwardly ....lol, betraying my arousal.

Wow Jen. You don't come off as someone who could lose control. You're a total carnivore.

I take it that it didn't pan out with that "raven" lady you posted about a while ago? We have not heard anything about her!

Aw, I feel bad for that woman. Not so much distasteful like a seedy thing, but undignified - specifically in that her man didn't have the wherewithal to keep her above that.

She was digging through her purse for what felt like a whole minute. The stripper was just waiting and wanted to come over to my GF and I. It was extremely awkward.

Also good thinking on tipping large (if you can afford it). That's probably why they were giving you the love, really. I agree - that setting just isn't one for being frugal. If you've got money issues, you shouldn't be there at all. Last time I was at a strip club and got a lap dance, I gave the girl $100. For one dance. It wasn't about me being 'large,' it was about me not worrying about money. I only got one dance anyway, and it showed I respected her and wanted to treat her well, which she appreciated. (Plus she 'earned' it in that she was gorgeous.)

Well, we weren't going "large." I just told my GF that if we tip, lets do three one-dollar bills instead of one one-dollar bill. My idea was to make it look like there was volume in her underwear and on the floor. I might be crazy but if I was a dancer I would be pretty bummed out if it didn't look like there was a lot of money on the dance floor. I think I'd care less about the total amount and more about how much it appeared that I got. I can be pretty self conscious so often times when I do things they are motivated by me not wanting others to feel self conscious over something they could potentially feel self conscious over (make sense?)

And whoa. 100 bucks for a dance? Miss highroller here lol. It was a 20 dollars for one song. I tipped 40 for the dance she gave my GF and during the dance I stuffed like 10 or so one-dollar bils in her underwear. So I guess 50'ish.

[jen1447]

That's still pretty strong. They'll treat you right that way, and doesn't it feel good to make the dancer feel more than worth it? I get the self-conscious thing yeah, it's actually kind of sweet you'd worry about them that way. Those singles add up too. A lot faster when you go by threes.

My raven GF is just fine lol. I haven't gone out with her in a couple weeks but I'm sure we will soon. btw I misportrayed the loss of control I guess, or at least the context. Basically the scenario where I'd lose control isn't really possible - trapped in a room with a woman I wanted with no release for the energy.

[HadleyK]

My main question is if anyone know's if women are allowed to touch the male strippers. Like, can they grab their ************ and whatnot. I am guessing they can, but it would be a bummer if the ladies were not allowed to. It'd probably be a deal breaker for me if my GF can't touch them. It would make my GF appear degraded IMO.

Yes, it is unfair

[Something_Awesome]

Yes, the male strippers were being touched. The female strippers were being touched as well!

[Something_Awesome]

So I met the Korean girl and we talked for a bit. After about a minute she dove in and asked me where I went last week. I followed up by asking "what do you mean?" Then she elaborated by saying "for vacation." I asked "Oh, how'd you know I was on vacation?" I knew that her answer was likely going to be that she heard I went on vacation from other people, but I was also making a crappy attempt to see if she would bring up the strip club (if she was there).

The thing is, everyone knew I was going to Vegas, so should she not have gotten that info from other coworkers as well? Anyway, I told her I went to Vegas and she said "Oh cool, I was there too!" Then she asked me what I did there. WTF, really? I said we saw shows, spent a lot of time at the pool, etc. My response was a freakin' lie because we spent ZERO time at the pool since my GF spent most of Saturday vomiting thanks to her over-drinking at the strip club! The pool by Bouchon would have been perfect

So I asked if she went to Vegas for EDC (the Super Bowl of raves) and she simply said "no." I thought asking if she went to the rave was a better question than asking what she did in Vegas, but I ended up asking what she did anyway. She said she " just partied." She never brought up that she was a t a bachelorette party.

What do you guys think? She recognized me from late Friday night? When I was at the male-strippers section of the club I had this strong feeling that I was going to run into someone I knew. It was extremely random. Turns out I may have run in to someone I would later know.