[CHANDLERS WISH]

ixox ufufy

Mmmm, because you put that 1xoxufufy in at the end, this is all that comes up under quote... Now that actually reads like a mixed of sexual jumbled words to me, with kisses in between?

So i'll scrowl down and up...

I was referring of course to the paragraph i highlighted which i can't get now that i've hit quote, pertaining to bubbles/knowledge, hense agreeing with you there, but i don't think even i can answer where i was years ago, hense why i am saying, is it because "the husband" had no idea, the men before him neither, no one spoke of passion, of intimacy it was sex? Can it therefore be a matter of knowledge? Teaching, then the hunger therefore?

Now, you are the teacher, different role, you tought and as a result you benefited...

Same scenario, different role....

So are women submissive? Do they wait for the man to take control? Do they actually like a "mans man" a leader? Was the lion a leader? who followed? that type of thing....

Some perhaps do and open up like a flower... If you read the threads on affairs ( sorry girls) , but you'd say it's true. "I had the time of my life" is what they would all say, the was forthcoming, strong, overwhelming, got me bad, i'll never forget....

What if the woman has been with a submissive man all her life? And isn't you, which she should be don't get me wrong, but can't get down there dirty on the floor whilst he's washing the dishes, as he would go into shock not passion? Or, so she thinks?

Anyway your not a big mouth broad on a Woman's Forum, rather, a wise woman really trying to get women to see what can be....

And yes, i am not disputing you "have to want to" be there, but from there, i think you then seek knowledge and then action and more knowledge, sorry i should have stated the first line first...

Dirty? Well i again believe it has a lot to do with the man your with, i have had a few partners, so i am reflecting there on them not this guy and well, they had no clue so why would i? But when you meet someone who makes you understand that it is not only normal but creates passion in your relationship for the rest of your life, avoiding those marriage break-ups, or bordom or turns to friendship then i'm with him all the way Each other relationship, truly including ex - husband would have me feel "dirty" if i wanted to do half the things i am doing now... this is my experience C, not yours from one man but from looking inside out of various situations personally, so my thoughts.. You are correct in as much as we are all different there and have to look beyond.

And so we agree there.

It seems that if there is a man that see the "hot" not "dirty" and with love, not "tart" then of we can go and really be ourselves, now you seeked knowledge, from Patty, and then put into action then created your own no doubt, in addition, but it was the man that made you feel that you could and the knowledge that gave you the green light to go and never stop, and now your a sexual beast..... lol.

So, i guess that was what i was saying, not with all some are so sexual and sensual they don't need a man to maketh the woman, they are woman, but they may have other ways in which showed them to be them, experiences even, doesn't matter, someone, something lets the cat out the door and that's it, it will for ever drink milk from then on.... and seek how to gain more

CW

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Since when is someone not liking to give blow jobs considered a mental problem?

Since I said it is, in fact, before that, since forever. The same's true for a guy who won't give oral. What's the point in wasting your time with them? You might as well find someone who doesn't have that problem, and you'll live a happier life.

[Private.Flangeamin]

Since I said it is, in fact, before that, since forever. The same's true for a guy who won't give oral. What's the point in wasting your time with them? You might as well find someone who doesn't have that problem, and you'll live a happier life.

Anon - you are contradicting yourself - you have stated that in your last oral experience you didnt like the taste , you got tired and went on about how you HAD to do it to your ex ...nobody makes a person have oral , and not a man with a woman. In fact you have made it clear you dont GIVING but you only like RECEIVING ...this is selfish and no woman wants a selfish lover ..so perhaps you would be better off on your own without women in your life .

A woman who does not want a man to give her oral ..is NOT mental , seeing as you dont know the definition of that word !! Heres a simple example for you to understand ...

I LOVE JAMMY DODGER BISCUITS ....I EAT THEM OFTEN ...I DONT LIKE FIG ROLL BUSCUITS...so i dont eat them ??? does that make me mental ??? ....if you dont like it and dont want to do it ...dont ...and you dont have to justify it ...

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Anon - you are contradicting yourself - you have stated that in your last oral experience you didnt like the taste , you got tired and went on about how you HAD to do it to your ex ...nobody makes a person have oral , and not a man with a woman. In fact you have made it clear you dont GIVING but you only like RECEIVING ...this is selfish and no woman wants a selfish lover ..so perhaps you would be better off on your own without women in your life

Wrong. I do enjoy it, and I said I did, I was just telling women that it's not without its drawbacks for men too. If women want to complain about every little thing, they should know that the opposite is true. Reread my post and maybe you'll understand. And in NO WAY did I say I only like recieving and not giving, so stop putting words in my mouth.

A woman who does not want a man to give her oral ..is NOT mental , seeing as you dont know the definition of that word !! Heres a simple example for you to understand ...

I didn't say she was mental, I said she had a mental problem. They are different, and I stick by that. You're jammy dodger thing is irrelevent and doesn't make sense.

I know that you don't like me, but if you want to attack me please actually read what I say before you go off half ****ed and in the wrong direction, thanks.

[Fallen1]

Since I said it is, in fact, before that, since forever. The same's true for a guy who won't give oral. What's the point in wasting your time with them? You might as well find someone who doesn't have that problem, and you'll live a happier life.

I understand what you are saying and agree 100 % about not wasting your time but to say that person has mental problems ..... no, I don't agree with that, although there may be cases where abuse was present that could have caused certain issues to arise.

I know this is an extreme example but someone may like more kinkier practices in sex like defecating on their partner. What if they said anyone that doesn't like that practice must have mental problems? Would you agree?

Again it goes back to the "we are all different" fact. We all have different likes and dislikes.

[C]

Mmmm, because you put that 1xoxufufy in at the end, this is all that comes up under quote... Now that actually reads like a mixed of sexual jumbled words to me, with kisses in between?

So i'll scrowl down and up...

I was referring of course to the paragraph i highlighted which i can't get now that i've hit quote, pertaining to bubbles/knowledge, hense agreeing with you there, but i don't think even i can answer where i was years ago, hense why i am saying, is it because "the husband" had no idea, the men before him neither, no one spoke of passion, of intimacy it was sex? Can it therefore be a matter of knowledge? Teaching, then the hunger therefore?

Now, you are the teacher, different role, you tought and as a result you benefited...

Same scenario, different role....

So are women submissive? Do they wait for the man to take control? Do they actually like a "mans man" a leader? Was the lion a leader? who followed? that type of thing....

Some perhaps do and open up like a flower... If you read the threads on affairs ( sorry girls) , but you'd say it's true. "I had the time of my life" is what they would all say, the was forthcoming, strong, overwhelming, got me bad, i'll never forget....

What if the woman has been with a submissive man all her life? And isn't you, which she should be don't get me wrong, but can't get down there dirty on the floor whilst he's washing the dishes, as he would go into shock not passion? Or, so she thinks?

Anyway your not a big mouth broad on a Woman's Forum, rather, a wise woman really trying to get women to see what can be....

And yes, i am not disputing you "have to want to" be there, but from there, i think you then seek knowledge and then action and more knowledge, sorry i should have stated the first line first...

Dirty? Well i again believe it has a lot to do with the man your with, i have had a few partners, so i am reflecting there on them not this guy and well, they had no clue so why would i? But when you meet someone who makes you understand that it is not only normal but creates passion in your relationship for the rest of your life, avoiding those marriage break-ups, or bordom or turns to friendship then i'm with him all the way Each other relationship, truly including ex - husband would have me feel "dirty" if i wanted to do half the things i am doing now... this is my experience C, not yours from one man but from looking inside out of various situations personally, so my thoughts.. You are correct in as much as we are all different there and have to look beyond.

And so we agree there.

It seems that if there is a man that see the "hot" not "dirty" and with love, not "tart" then of we can go and really be ourselves, now you seeked knowledge, from Patty, and then put into action then created your own no doubt, in addition, but it was the man that made you feel that you could and the knowledge that gave you the green light to go and never stop, and now your a sexual beast..... lol.

So, i guess that was what i was saying, not with all some are so sexual and sensual they don't need a man to maketh the woman, they are woman, but they may have other ways in which showed them to be them, experiences even, doesn't matter, someone, something lets the cat out the door and that's it, it will for ever drink milk from then on.... and seek how to gain more

CW

Morning Girl:

Patti is just a special person in my life...In fact I am talking to her later today...Being older as I think I am, but not sure, she gives me acceptance in who I am. She understands the high sexuality of a woman who ejaculates and lives in the bliss that I live in. CW, I do not mention this to brag or gloat but it is who I am. These hot waters of love can transform a woman in many ways and believe me, they have done their job on me....It is truly a gift from God....So she is my dearest friend who knows me more intimately than my husband....

I cannot see how I could be the way that I am with any other man but my husband...We are madly and passionately in love...It never stops and started this way many years ago. How a woman can do what we do with casual sex I will never know...I speak of this with you and the men you have talked about...You are not wrong, you are right.. For anyone to say how they can just blow any man or have oral so casually is pretty unheard of for me. But this is me and not them so I understand this...He and I are joined at the rib and then we go down from there. Anything and everything goes but it is only our love and passion for each other that has brought this out.

I will never know why I did not ejaculate years ago....I do not know why my G-spot was not swollen with love as it is now back then.....But I do know that the woman that emerged from this hot place in time, for some unknown reason knows more about sexual life than she has ever known...I believe that two people have to be in passionate sexual love to attain this...But then why would you give a casual lover all that you are? Isn't this supposed to be reserved for that special someone? This is what confuses me about the younger generation. You give to anyone then how do you know when that special person comes along?

One more thing, please forgive my post of last night...There you saw such a happy woman who had been "deflowered" that afternoon. My husband has been unable to do our thing and jumped the clock by a week yesterday so this is just another example of frequent sex makes for a very happy marriage. Sounds good anyway and with us it is so true.

On a man being submissive...I don't think a woman should be submissive...I think sexually she should show that she loves sex and not necessarily wait for him to make the first move...If you have strong feelings for a man you have to know if you are mated sexually...It is so important...I had to have a man who was like I was...He and I are twins...As wild as I am, he is just as bad...We have a ball....If we get down and dirty, it is both of us...I would say never marry or have an affair with a man that is not like you are...If he did not move away from you to let you unzip his pants easier and want you to do this then this already is showing signs of opposite libido's. I understand that some people do not want to be bothered all the time but I don't do this nor he...We just plain jell and that is what a couple should be....You should think alike...Anyway we do a great deal of the time...

When a woman has an affair with a man and is married or he is, I believe she is as wild as she can be...She is free....She is a lusty, hot and sinful woman having the time of her life...She is being the true woman that she is inside and letting it all hang out...She will do oral, anal, hang from the ceiling from a rope and then quietly come home to her husband and again act like a zombie in bed....Why she can't connect the two together and do this to him is the problem....I would say that she does not have the same sexual feelings for him and probably never has nor never will. So how can you be who you want to be when the person you are with is not your sexual match?????? The person much turn you on and make you want to do every sexual thing that is in your mind....You do want to be a bad girl and your man in the affair let you be who you wanted to be.

Now one more thing and I am off with my other half shopping....I want to repeat one more thing...A woman should not have to swallow unless she wants to. This does not make the sexual act of oral sex a prerequisite. It is something that is up to her. If she gags forget it...If she wants to spit it in a cup do it. If she wants to spit into a Kleenex this is fine....It does not have to happen no matter how much any man says she does and it makes him feel better....If this makes him feel this much better suggest this....Jack off honey...Fill two shot glasses and you drink up....Baby, when you have drank up and love it this much then maybe I will swallow you but until then shut the F up. I am sure this does not sound lady like but so what....Swallowing should be done in passion and when you want to do it....Not to prove whatever it is that a man wants you to prove....

Now honey, I am gone for the day....Take care....C

[Just-a-regular-guy]

WOW

Lots of talk about this!!! I've spend the last 30 minutes reading all the posts and trying to follow all the streams of thought.... my take (short and sweet):

Equality - if the man brings his mate to climax, the woman should do the same.

Levels - both genders can prepare themselves for their mate. Always make yourself the best that you can be.

Reality - Is a woman really that bad tasting? Is a man? Has anyone ever eaten/tasted balut? If you don't know what it is Google it.... people eat it every day..... this should put the girl/guy taste into perspective

Love - do you love him/her? Do you want them to feel the extreme? How much do you really sacrifice for him/her? Love is commitment. Love is sacrifice. Think deep and hard on this one.

Distance - how far is too far? I'll kiss her, but I won't stick my tongue inside..... I'll lick him, but I won't swallow.....

LET'S GET A REAL GRIP HERE PEOPLE...... YOUR LOVELIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT.... MANY OF YOU SOUND MISERABLE.... I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE MARRIED TO MANY OF YOU!!!! DO THE MOST THAT YOU CAN.... KEEP TRYING.... DON'T GIVE UP.... DON'T BE SELFISH.... DON'T BE SUCH A PRUDE.... your sexlife depends on it.....


sorry for venting... ahhhhh I do feel better....

[Fallen1]

LET'S GET A REAL GRIP HERE PEOPLE...... YOUR LOVELIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT.... MANY OF YOU SOUND MISERABLE.... I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE MARRIED TO MANY OF YOU!!!! DO THE MOST THAT YOU CAN.... KEEP TRYING.... DON'T GIVE UP.... DON'T BE SELFISH.... DON'T BE SUCH A PRUDE.... your sexlife depends on it.....

[Private.Flangeamin]

OHH Fallen ...dont worry about this, you had a very valid point to Anon ...which id like to post to in a sec ...everybody is quite entitled to there own thoughts and feelings on oral ...thats why we are here ...

Regards
Catherine xx

[Private.Flangeamin]

Wrong. I do enjoy it, and I said I did, I was just telling women that it's not without its drawbacks for men too. If women want to complain about every little thing, they should know that the opposite is true. Reread my post and maybe you'll understand. And in NO WAY did I say I only like recieving and not giving, so stop putting words in my mouth.



I didn't say she was mental, I said she had a mental problem. They are different, and I stick by that. You're jammy dodger thing is irrelevent and doesn't make sense.

I know that you don't like me, but if you want to attack me please actually read what I say before you go off half ****ed and in the wrong direction, thanks.

But you do seem to contradict yourself . In an earlier post on oral in a different thread , you said (along the lines of ) and nif im not correct word for word , you'll bhave to excuse me ..you said , my girlfriend dosent really like it and she was worried about all sorts of things like smell and taste (of herself)....THEN in this thread, now you say its over with her or we are led to believe ...but its irr
elevent ...that you didnt like the taste sometimes becuse of what shes been eating?????? , your tounge got tired and you were almost angry (it seemed) that she was taking a bit of time to reach orgasm in fact the whole comments about your ex were derogatory - certainly over her recieving oral and you performing it ....

But again are you putting a time limit as to when a woman orgasm through a man giving oral ??? i think you are ...and surely if a woman is doing it to you , as its getting done , do you think ...god i must hurry up and cum ...and get it over with soon as possible ...I THINK NOT !!! ...surely its about relaxing and enjoying whats happening rather than a race to orgasm ? .

As i said in my first post ..and everyones different ..i also said that !! but for me its NATURAL almost automatic to want to - i enjoy giving a man oral and for as long as possible - a few little ways to prevent the man orgasm along the way so i can for an hour or so. The thing is if you are very attracted to somebody - am i right here - it waould seem a natural desire !! perhaps you were not physically attracted to your girlfriend < indeed , you slated her in some of your posts on other threads (her figure ) in which case it would of been kinder to have finished with her than to go on having , indeed FORCING yourself !!! to have oral sex with a woman you did not find attractive !!! Perhaps you should try oral with a woman you ARE attracted to ...but i find it unusual of a man to be going on about the taste ect ...most men like it and WANt to its a natural urge ...like it is for ME !!

I wasnt attacking you ...i was making a valid point - i didnt say i didnt like you ...did i say that in my post ??? did i ??? .

Lately , you have been angry and your jumping down throats !! just chill ...your angry with women ...i was just offended that you made a personal attack on Marcus using F word ...its my brother and my own flesh and blood ....im not thinking of that anyway , i wanted to post to you ...was that ok with you ??? calm down