[Fallen1]

These women will wonder why their husbands left for another woman, when the reason is staring them in the face in the mirror every day. Men can only take so much, and I can take less... haha.

I kind of understand what you are getting at but women are not always the culprits here.

This is not just a male issue, it can also hold true for the women. There are women that don't get what they want/need also.

Take me for instance. I put up with an 18 year relationship where I was the one that ignored and left wanting. It was ALWAYS a "wham bam thank you maam" type thing and a "sorry you didn't get yours maybe next time" and he rolled over and went to sleep. I could probably count on both hands and have fingers left over the times I was satisfied in that relationship. ****** me for giving it that many years.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Sure, I know it's not a male only problem, but I'd say the majority of cases its the man with the higher sex drive than the woman. But obviously there are the men who are selfish "lovers" as well.

The bottom line is that none of us deserve to be sexually unfulfilled.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

I think not wanting to give blowjobs/swallow is a mental issue - the very fact that I use the word "want" here means that by definition it IS mental. The definition is just the first line if the dictionary definition, nothing tailored to this thread.

Caroline, you are right. It just frustrates me that so many women just need to grow up, sexually speaking. And I totally see your point about marriages etc. not really working sexually, which is partly why I think I only have a five per cent or so chance of getting married. I don't deserve a celibate life because some woman doesn't know how to have fun. And yeah, I can see why some guys turn to other guys, as they just get fed up with the lack of attention they get, and want some actual decent sex, haha. You know every gay guy always says the sex is way better? haha.

These women will wonder why their husbands left for another woman, when the reason is staring them in the face in the mirror every day. Men can only take so much, and I can take less... haha.

Well no point re-hashing... I get it that "some" women wont give head and i disagree whole heartedly, and we are talking relationships. I get it that "some" won't swallow, there, sure it's an issue for them they can't get their head around, but most try, or will try, but if it's not you, it's not you... Now, i will admit that i will "try again", deeper so it goes down the throat maybe that's the key. So, i am not saying, i won't "try" i am saying it should not be the be all and end all if it still ends up, na, i just can't, due to reflux issues...

You know, a lot of women turn bi as well, gay, and state the women do it better as they firstly do it intensely, longer, and know what a woman wants because she is one..... And, often after a string of bad "men" relationships, with a natural tendancy to be bi anyway so it goes both ways there.

So where i will agree is keep trying... But if it aint going to work, sorry, that's a person's priogrative... No point being peeved at her for ever because she can't take it in...

There's so much more sexually, as long as she loves bj's as well, i think...

100% on all, Caroline, Anon and everyone says the same, no point being with a partner who is not going to give 100% anyway, what's the point, being a lonley old hag, or a shrivelled up man?

That's it on that note....

CW

[Private.Flangeamin]

I am not contradicting myself at all. What I said in an earlier post, was about the fact that my girlfriend didn't like to recieve oral, as she was self concious about all sorts of things, and no matter what I'd do or say most of the time she wouldn't let me go down on her. As for me pointing out the negative aspects of giving head to a woman: IT wAS IN RESPONSE TO THE WOMEN WHO WHINE ABOUT RUBBISH ABOUT BLOWJOBS LIKE THE TASTE, GAG REFLEX ETC. Do I need to repeat that for you again? I have said MULTIPLE times that I LIKE giving head to a woman. Learn to read for christs sake.


I'm not putting any time limit on anything, I don't know where you think you're getting your info from but you must be pulling it out of your ****. See the above paragraph for why. And actually, with that partner, I did think "god I must hurry up and cum", because she only did it as a service to me and didn't really enjoy it, which made it pretty poor anyway. I often put in an hour or more for her to achieve an orgasm, so why don't you go to urban dictionary and look up "STFU".



FOR GODS SAKE PLEASE LEARN TO READ. PLEASE. For the taste thing, see paragraph #1, hell read it ten times. As for cobbling together what little parts of my life that you can tell from misreading a forum, and trying to use it against me in an unrelated thread, I would first say, just [bleep] off. And to specifically address what I said about her figure, are you saying that if a woman ever puts on weight after a relationship begins that you should dump her?



We had a discussion in PM, and I never insulted your brother. I said I don't believe in organised religion, and that I don't care about him because you were going ON AND ON about him. It's not my fault if you think I hate your brother or whatever, get over it.

To be honest I'm not sure if it's okay for you to post to me, haha, it just means I have to waste my time clearing up your misunderstandings and misconceptions, and wading through your personal attacks.

LISTEN HERE ...CLEVER **** ...your making the personal attacks NOT ME ...i think its YOU who needs mental help . You PM D to get into a religious debate and send religious hatred . I TOLD you my brother is a Padre and i never discuss religion - or get drawn into , many people try here ...or to get thier hatred or issues out , whether it be the Catholic Church because i happen to be OR talk about gay priests ..i told you i dont want to talk about it as i try to be diplomatic !!! as i said tact and DIPLOMACY ...i said im sorry your brother is suffering from an illness and i was very sympthetic ,...whe i wouldnt be drawn into a conversation about religion because of my brothers job ...you said F xxxxck your brother ...as far as i can see of you your a nasty piece of work ...quite evil minded .
Your nasty to women and seem to take pleasure out of it . Perhaps you are whats known as a short house !!! small in height and you carnt vent your anger with a guy , you like to come on womens forums and make NASTY remarks becuse i think a guy would give you a punch .

Frankly dear, im not interested in your selfish ways with women, and clearly you are selfish ...dont mess about with me ...and DONT insult my nbrother or PM me over religion ...you were told i dont discuss the church or anything to do with it and you couldnt accept that .

You should have some repect calling a Padre a Fxxxck . it shows what you are ...i gave you a polite post today but your an ignorant selfish person .

[Private.Flangeamin]

LISTEN HERE ...CLEVER **** ...your making the personal attacks NOT ME ...i think its YOU who needs mental help . You PM D to get into a religious debate and send religious hatred . I TOLD you my brother is a Padre and i never discuss religion - or get drawn into , many people try here ...or to get thier hatred or issues out , whether it be the Catholic Church because i happen to be OR talk about gay priests ..i told you i dont want to talk about it as i try to be diplomatic !!! as i said tact and DIPLOMACY ...i said im sorry your brother is suffering from an illness and i was very sympthetic ,...whe i wouldnt be drawn into a conversation about religion because of my brothers job ...you said F xxxxck your brother ...as far as i can see of you your a nasty piece of work ...quite evil minded .
Your nasty to women and seem to take pleasure out of it . Perhaps you are whats known as a short house !!! small in height and you carnt vent your anger with a guy , you like to come on womens forums and make NASTY remarks becuse i think a guy would give you a punch .

Frankly dear, im not interested in your selfish ways with women, and clearly you are selfish ...dont mess about with me ...and DONT insult my nbrother or PM me over religion ...you were told i dont discuss the church or anything to do with it and you couldnt accept that .

You should have some repect calling a Padre a Fxxxck . it shows what you are ...i gave you a polite post today but your an ignorant selfish person .

There are guys on this thread ..i dont see vicious comments from those guys !! you know why ??? becuse they are not frustrated like you ...i posted to talk about oral a woman giving it to a man and it seems to have ANNOYED YOU >>>WHY !!! not getting any !! well ...im not surprised ....and you dont realize it but YOU HAVE got hang up and issues ...its VERY evident ...isnt that right guys ??? yes ..WOOOOHHH NASTY ,

[anonymouswhitefemale]

LISTEN HERE ...CLEVER **** ...your making the personal attacks NOT ME ...i think its YOU who needs mental help . You PM D to get into a religious debate and send religious hatred . I TOLD you my brother is a Padre and i never discuss religion - or get drawn into , many people try here ...or to get thier hatred or issues out , whether it be the Catholic Church because i happen to be OR talk about gay priests ..i told you i dont want to talk about it as i try to be diplomatic !!! as i said tact and DIPLOMACY ...i said im sorry your brother is suffering from an illness and i was very sympthetic ,...whe i wouldnt be drawn into a conversation about religion because of my brothers job ...you said F xxxxck your brother ...as far as i can see of you your a nasty piece of work ...quite evil minded .
Your nasty to women and seem to take pleasure out of it . Perhaps you are whats known as a short house !!! small in height and you carnt vent your anger with a guy , you like to come on womens forums and make NASTY remarks becuse i think a guy would give you a punch .

Frankly dear, im not interested in your selfish ways with women, and clearly you are selfish ...dont mess about with me ...and DONT insult my nbrother or PM me over religion ...you were told i dont discuss the church or anything to do with it and you couldnt accept that .

You should have some repect calling a Padre a Fxxxck . it shows what you are ...i gave you a polite post today but your an ignorant selfish person .

Oh dear, you have a selective memory don't you... For a start, I never pm'd you, you pm'd me, and kept on pm'ing me. You started talking about religion, so I carried on. I never said anything like that about your brother, and if I hadn't deleted the PM's I'd prove it. I said I didn't believe in organsized religion, that's all, and when you're going on and on about your religious brother, for some reason assuming I care, that's my right.

More personal attacks, blah blah, I'm 6 foot, and I talk to men like I talk to women. And I debate things in real life too, what a suprise...

Look, I don't care what you think, or what you think I said to you, just shut up and chill out mkay? It's funny how when people get angry they act like 8 year olds. And by the way, can't doesn't have an R in it, I'd have assumed you couldn't be a native english speaker at 35+ and still not know that.

Grow up.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

There are guys on this thread ..i dont see vicious comments from those guys !! you know why ??? becuse they are not frustrated like you ...i posted to talk about oral a woman giving it to a man and it seems to have ANNOYED YOU >>>WHY !!! not getting any !! well ...im not surprised ....and you dont realize it but YOU HAVE got hang up and issues ...its VERY evident ...isnt that right guys ??? yes ..WOOOOHHH NASTY ,

I haven't got angry with anything, except your small minded petty b/s. Just keep it coming with the off-base and irrelevent personal attacks, you're making yourself look like a mindless piece of excrement.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

I hope the threader is still here somewhere and got some answers?

CW

[Private.Flangeamin]

Oh dear, you have a selective memory don't you... For a start, I never pm'd you, you pm'd me, and kept on pm'ing me. You started talking about religion, so I carried on. I never said anything like that about your brother, and if I hadn't deleted the PM's I'd prove it. I said I didn't believe in organsized religion, that's all, and when you're going on and on about your religious brother, for some reason assuming I care, that's my right.

More personal attacks, blah blah, I'm 6 foot, and I talk to men like I talk to women. And I debate things in real life too, what a suprise...

Look, I don't care what you think, or what you think I said to you, just shut up and chill out mkay? It's funny how when people get angry they act like 8 year olds. And by the way, can't doesn't have an R in it, I'd have assumed you couldn't be a native english speaker at 35+ and still not know that.

Grow up.

Im 40 ..and you know full well ..and i have got your PMs and you were TOO STONED to remember you said it ..!! thats what happens when you smoke too much pot ...

Im tired of the same old dross over my spelling , its been done before time and time again ...im a WOMAN if got long fingernails i type quickly sometimes i miss letters out ..or spelling error >..SO WHAT ...as i said to somebody else ...a man NEVER took a woman on a date becuse she gave "goodspell" !! ....good head ...but not goodspell ...so who cares .

Im still wondering why you dont go off on the mens forum ...or dont they bother with you on there ??? do i blame them NO ...
By the way you also seem to forgot you PM me to say ..I LIKE MAKING TROUBLE !!! your a troll !!

AND YOUR RIGHT ...I DONT LIKE YOU ...YOUR NOT FIT TO LICK MY RATHER LOVELY HIGH HEELED BOOTS ...****SPRING !!

[Private.Flangeamin]

Im 40 ..and you know full well ..and i have got your PMs and you were TOO STONED to remember you said it ..!! thats what happens when you smoke too much pot ...

Im tired of the same old dross over my spelling , its been done before time and time again ...im a WOMAN if got long fingernails i type quickly sometimes i miss letters out ..or spelling error >..SO WHAT ...as i said to somebody else ...a man NEVER took a woman on a date becuse she gave "goodspell" !! ....good head ...but not goodspell ...so who cares .

Im still wondering why you dont go off on the mens forum ...or dont they bother with you on there ??? do i blame them NO ...
By the way you also seem to forgot you PM me to say ..I LIKE MAKING TROUBLE !!! your a troll !! FOR THOSE WHO ARE WONDERING ...THE WORD ..DXXXXICK SHORT FOR RICHARD ...AS IN RICHARD HEAD .!!! like you anon

AND YOUR RIGHT ...I DONT LIKE YOU ...YOUR NOT FIT TO LICK MY RATHER LOVELY HIGH HEELED BOOTS ...****SPRING !!

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