[Private.Flangeamin]

Lots of talk about this!!! I've spend the last 30 minutes reading all the posts and trying to follow all the streams of thought.... my take (short and sweet):

Equality - if the man brings his mate to climax, the woman should do the same.

Levels - both genders can prepare themselves for their mate. Always make yourself the best that you can be.

Reality - Is a woman really that bad tasting? Is a man? Has anyone ever eaten/tasted balut? If you don't know what it is Google it.... people eat it every day..... this should put the girl/guy taste into perspective

Love - do you love him/her? Do you want them to feel the extreme? How much do you really sacrifice for him/her? Love is commitment. Love is sacrifice. Think deep and hard on this one.

Distance - how far is too far? I'll kiss her, but I won't stick my tongue inside..... I'll lick him, but I won't swallow.....

LET'S GET A REAL GRIP HERE PEOPLE...... YOUR LOVELIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT.... MANY OF YOU SOUND MISERABLE.... I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE MARRIED TO MANY OF YOU!!!! DO THE MOST THAT YOU CAN.... KEEP TRYING.... DON'T GIVE UP.... DON'T BE SELFISH.... DON'T BE SUCH A PRUDE.... your sexlife depends on it.....


sorry for venting... ahhhhh I do feel better....

Yes ...i agree with you ...lots of talk on this subject ...and i would go with you 100 per cent ...your love life is what you make it ...and dont be selfish !! I did find some comments of posters BIZARRE ...how far is too far !! ...should i do this ..i like that part but not that part ...we are human and its natural ...

[Just-a-regular-guy]

Aaahhhhh

I love the voice of reason!!!

Thank you Private.Flangeamin!!!! I would marry you!!! of course if I wasn't already married

life is too short..... sex is too pleasurable.....

make the most of ALL of it as you can.....

be as sexual as you can.... some day you won't be able to.....

[miffed23]

I love the voice of reason!!!

Thank you Private.Flangeamin!!!! I would marry you!!! of course if I wasn't already married

life is too short..... sex is too pleasurable.....

make the most of ALL of it as you can.....

be as sexual as you can.... some day you won't be able to.....

Well said my friend.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

But you do seem to contradict yourself . In an earlier post on oral in a different thread , you said (along the lines of ) and nif im not correct word for word , you'll bhave to excuse me ..you said , my girlfriend dosent really like it and she was worried about all sorts of things like smell and taste (of herself)....THEN in this thread, now you say its over with her or we are led to believe ...but its irr
elevent ...that you didnt like the taste sometimes becuse of what shes been eating?????? , your tounge got tired and you were almost angry (it seemed) that she was taking a bit of time to reach orgasm in fact the whole comments about your ex were derogatory - certainly over her recieving oral and you performing it ....

I am not contradicting myself at all. What I said in an earlier post, was about the fact that my girlfriend didn't like to recieve oral, as she was self concious about all sorts of things, and no matter what I'd do or say most of the time she wouldn't let me go down on her. As for me pointing out the negative aspects of giving head to a woman: IT wAS IN RESPONSE TO THE WOMEN WHO WHINE ABOUT RUBBISH ABOUT BLOWJOBS LIKE THE TASTE, GAG REFLEX ETC. Do I need to repeat that for you again? I have said MULTIPLE times that I LIKE giving head to a woman. Learn to read for christs sake.

But again are you putting a time limit as to when a woman orgasm through a man giving oral ??? i think you are ...and surely if a woman is doing it to you , as its getting done , do you think ...god i must hurry up and cum ...and get it over with soon as possible ...I THINK NOT !!! ...surely its about relaxing and enjoying whats happening rather than a race to orgasm ? .

I'm not putting any time limit on anything, I don't know where you think you're getting your info from but you must be pulling it out of your ****. See the above paragraph for why. And actually, with that partner, I did think "god I must hurry up and cum", because she only did it as a service to me and didn't really enjoy it, which made it pretty poor anyway. I often put in an hour or more for her to achieve an orgasm, so why don't you go to urban dictionary and look up "STFU".

The thing is if you are very attracted to somebody - am i right here - it waould seem a natural desire !! perhaps you were not physically attracted to your girlfriend < indeed , you slated her in some of your posts on other threads (her figure ) in which case it would of been kinder to have finished with her than to go on having , indeed FORCING yourself !!! to have oral sex with a woman you did not find attractive !!! Perhaps you should try oral with a woman you ARE attracted to ...but i find it unusual of a man to be going on about the taste ect ...most men like it and WANt to its a natural urge ...like it is for ME !!

FOR GODS SAKE PLEASE LEARN TO READ. PLEASE. For the taste thing, see paragraph #1, hell read it ten times. As for cobbling together what little parts of my life that you can tell from misreading a forum, and trying to use it against me in an unrelated thread, I would first say, just [bleep] off. And to specifically address what I said about her figure, are you saying that if a woman ever puts on weight after a relationship begins that you should dump her?

Lately , you have been angry and your jumping down throats !! just chill ...your angry with women ...i was just offended that you made a personal attack on Marcus using F word ...its my brother and my own flesh and blood ....im not thinking of that anyway , i wanted to post to you ...was that ok with you ??? calm down

We had a discussion in PM, and I never insulted your brother. I said I don't believe in organised religion, and that I don't care about him because you were going ON AND ON about him. It's not my fault if you think I hate your brother or whatever, get over it.

To be honest I'm not sure if it's okay for you to post to me, haha, it just means I have to waste my time clearing up your misunderstandings and misconceptions, and wading through your personal attacks.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

I understand what you are saying and agree 100 % about not wasting your time but to say that person has mental problems ..... no, I don't agree with that, although there may be cases where abuse was present that could have caused certain issues to arise.

I know this is an extreme example but someone may like more kinkier practices in sex like defecating on their partner. What if they said anyone that doesn't like that practice must have mental problems? Would you agree?

Again it goes back to the "we are all different" fact. We all have different likes and dislikes.

I think if a woman doesn't want to give oral to a man, she has some mental problems. Issues that she needs to get over. Same with a man. If you fancy men, it's a natural thing, if you fancy women, it's a natural thing. Yes, we are all different, and defacating on people is so extreme and niche that it is silly to compare the two.

Women who don't want to give head, using lame excuses and stuff, basically just have to get over it, otherwise they're just being selfish, stuck up, have too much religious influences etc.

[Fallen1]

I love the voice of reason!!!

Thank you Private.Flangeamin!!!! I would marry you!!! of course if I wasn't already married

life is too short..... sex is too pleasurable.....

make the most of ALL of it as you can.....

be as sexual as you can.... some day you won't be able to.....

That's just it. To be reasonable you have to understand that there are some women that for whatever reason just do not like it.

Me, I love it. I have no problems with it. I've continued bj's with my guy on several occasion while being in quite a bit of pain. My jaw has a tendency to cramp very bad, and depending on what position I'm in I have gotten terrible headaches, guess due to the blood rushing to my head.

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I love the voice of reason!!!

Thank you Private.Flangeamin!!!! I would marry you!!! of course if I wasn't already married

life is too short..... sex is too pleasurable.....

make the most of ALL of it as you can.....

be as sexual as you can.... some day you won't be able to.....

Wanna make a bet!!!!!!

[Just-a-regular-guy]

Dear CarolineWH

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Just a Regular Guy
DO THE MOST THAT YOU CAN.... KEEP TRYING.... DON'T GIVE UP.... DON'T BE SELFISH.... DON'T BE SUCH A PRUDE.... your sexlife depends on it.....

Very true, can i point out though that there have been several comments as well, where they haven't given up, they are not selfish and they have kept trying for years in fact, but if one partner ( married) can not be "equal" then that's a hard call... They probably don't want to be married to that partner either where their sex life is concerned and that's sad because they " haven't given up" years and years later....

ANON
Women who don't want to give head, using lame excuses and stuff, basically just have to get over it, otherwise they're just being selfish, stuck up, have too much religious influences etc.

There sure is some reason if they don't like it why they don't keep trying, i agree there. But some are young and in-experienced, taking them out of the equation, then yes, the other's should learn the art of equality and work on it...

Anon
I think if a woman doesn't want to give oral to a man, she has some mental problems. Issues that she needs to get over.

Perhaps then the word may be she has "psychological issues" pertaining to blow-jobs that she needs to work with? I think Fallen1 is correct that the word Mental is maybe not the correct terminology?

Anon
What I said in an earlier post, was about the fact that my girlfriend didn't like to receive oral, as she was self conscious about all sorts of things, and no matter what I'd do or say most of the time she wouldn't let me go down on her. As for me pointing out the negative aspects of giving head to a woman: IT was IN RESPONSE TO THE WOMEN WHO WHINE ABOUT RUBBISH ABOUT BLOWJOBS LIKE THE TASTE, GAG REFLEX ETC. Do I need to repeat that for you again? I have said MULTIPLE times that I LIKE giving head to a woman.

Well I'll have to admit PF, i actually do recall Anon saying he liked doing it on other posts for sure. Hey Anon though, if you don't like the pubic hair maybe "she" who ever she next is, needs to shave?

Now, i know you wouldn't call me a whiner, i don't diss the taste, i haven't mastered taking it in, because frankly, reflux, is real, i do it cleaning up after the dog ahhh... Maybe it's a time issue but i can't see where it hold the keys to a truly bonded relationship if everything else is "perfect" sexually and she's very very giving? Made that point before, so I'm sticking to it. You "Don't" have to take it in, if you don't want to.. I believe Caroline underlined this as well... It's not selfish? It's a hurdle to jump over if you want to do it for your man, as that part i agree with, you should want to give it a go if your in love, for the love of your partner, he's doing stuff... But reflux, again, is a real thing, not a fictitious thing in a woman's head, certainly one she can attempt to cross over as i said.

Private Flangeamin
As i said in my first post ..and everyone's different ..i also said that !! but for me its NATURAL almost automatic to want to -

I agree PF, it does appear to be a natural think, i can't imagine nor comprehend why in bed a man has to even ask? Let alone be rejected? Never work that one out.

Having said that, as said to Caroline, but then years of long relationships the best any of them could do, including my ex- husband was a quick 2 minute job on me? So perhaps as always believed, somehow you have to ensure you are with the "right" partner, including sexually which in the older days, would have been hard, were hard, seems this generation have "got it" but got missed somewhere?

And now we all want more? If single, being more mindful of what next we attract... That's a bit like another learning lesson of life if we have that chance to do so......

I think all points are valid, there is no right or wrong but there is a matter of giving as much as you can to each other, as that is indeed Justaregular guy extremely important for a long lasting future.......

CW

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Touché

I like your style....

Hugs honey, hugs....HAVE A GOOD DAY.....xox Caroline