[Happy1]

Happy1, I know that ambition in itself is a desirable trait... I just find it boring when women say they want a man that's going somewhere etc... basically what they mean is that they want to be looked after, be able to have what they want, be comfortable, sparkled with diamonds. And if that's the case, it's hard to see where actual emotions could enter this solicitous contract of a relationship.[/quote]


I do NOT mean that!! I said several times now what I meant. Ambition to me is : The ability to achieve what you want. ( No matter what that is, it could be collecting cans for all I care, it shows character)

NOT: The ability to make some gold digger happy or to change who you are to be what she wants.

[monies1210]

I hope this is an end to this arguement

Okay I am seeing it and it is clear.

Anon.....you are taking the meaning of what everyone is saying and molding it into something you want. I don't know if maybe at some time in your life you were hurt by a gold digger but that doesn't give reason to construed our thoughts. It was done with my colored pants comments...when you said I was just closed minded and now your doing it with Happy1's, Chandler's Wish, and my comment about ambition.

So this is going to be the last time I am going to clear this up personally. Ambition has nothing to do with how much money one makes but instead it is about the pride one takes in them self. It is about the effort and time someone puts into their goals in order to make them come true instead of just being okay with staying at the same place they were in college (and if never moving forward was their goal thats just sad). I mean even has screwed up as Brittany Spears may be and even with all the money and fame she has, I believe she still has some ambition and goals; to get full custody of her kids back (I know not the best example but the best I could do right now).

Now with this said......it does not transfer in any way shape or form to HOW MUCH MONEY WILL A GUY MAKE or HOW MUCH CAN HE PAMPER ME. This especially being because many women in todays time would rather be self sufficient before they decide to focus on a man or they have goals that even if they do have a man they would like to be able to survive on their own should anything go wrong. So ambition translate to nothing that has to do with a guys money.

[Happy1]

[quote=monies1210;41801]. I don't know if maybe at some time in your life you were hurt by a gold digger


Ha, sorry, that made me laugh . Well said

[Little]

Let me remind the both of you that disrespect towards other members is not allowed on this forum. I see you're new, so you may want to look over the rules; we're different here than at other places.

[Happy1]

What?

I wasnt being disrespectful to anyone.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

monies1210
when you said I was just closed minded and now your doing it with Happy1's, Chandler's Wish, and my comment about ambition.

I actually thought the answer Anon gave, pertaining to ambition (to me) was a fair call. He states that he perhaps can't see it as he lost his own ambition a couple of years ago...

CW

[Fallen1]

I wasnt being disrespectful to anyone.

I have to say I agree here.

No more disrespect has been show by her than by the one she was replying to.

[HickBarbie]

Yeah I think it's werid, However, soem people might like that kinds of thing. I wouldn't want to take a 25 years old's virgnity

[jonny]

You might as well have a load of cash in your wallet, then get it out at the bar, buy your drinks like you would anyway, and just let them see a wad of cash.

I don't drink and have never been to a bar.

I was basically being cynical about womens desires for "ambition" in a man as I see that as "drive me around in a nice car and buy my children a house". If they are shallow enough to want money, you can morally exploit that for sex, if that's what you want.

Monies, I'm aware it's a falsity, but that's what I'm saying. Personally, I think if a woman is going to act like a prostitute (chase money), then she might as well be barking up the wrong tree, and getting used for sex, just like she'd use sex to get a necklace or whatever.

And come on, in an average some things are going to be over, and some are going to be under... Some will be 8, some will be 4, and in the land of the rising sun, some will be 1.

Also, I live in London and there's 'nuff people who could mug me, but I still rock my purple trousers faithfully. Can't live your whole life being afraid.

But yeah anyway Jonny, you seriously need to start seeing the glass as half full, your pessimism is boring - ladies will think that too. So you can't go for a walk in a park at night? Go for a walk down the river and have a picnic in the day - whatever, it's all the same.

Lying will do me no good. Because in the end she will find out I am broke.

That will blow up in my face.

I also understand that ambition is a good thing. I just have no idea what to be ambitious about.

I haven't found anything i am really good at.

Working construction is the definition of dead end.

Espically when there are other people who work for very low wages, and puts the people you work for out of a job.

Yea, im not employed at the moment.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

I don't drink and have never been to a bar.

Well, this is probably one of the first reasons why you haven't got laid yet. Go to bars, and drink. You'll feel a bit more confident in talking to women, and some drunk women might start sleazing all over you - it's win win.

Lying will do me no good. Because in the end she will find out I am broke.

That will blow up in my face.

You're reading too deeply into it. We're talking about losing your virginity here, not finding a wife. If you can fool some gold digger into a shag because they think you have money, that's a score. Obviously you wouldn't even WANT to marry them. You're not going to marry the first woman you meet (at least, you shouldn't), so you have to start somewhere and build up from there. A one night stand or something is probably a start to doing that. Hell, to be honest, I think you'd benefit from getting an actual hooker, and just getting it out of the way. The fact that you will have done it will resound around the rest of your life, make you more confident etc.

I also understand that ambition is a good thing. I just have no idea what to be ambitious about.

Yea, im not employed at the moment.

I'm with you there... except I'm good at everything I try, pretty much without exception, however in the things I find enjoyable they're always small sectors with too many people already in them, and no room for people without experience.