[C]

Acceptance and love is the name of a good relationship.....Until our honeymoon night, I never knew what he looked like......He could have been 2 inches and it would not have made a difference....I never knew about a circumcised man, so here in the USA, it is not a big thing....

[Uneeklyme]

That is a strance coincidence, or whatever, since in fact the opposite is true. It is far harder to masturbate without a foreskin, and not having your gland protected (by the foreskin) erodes the nerve endings, slowly killing sensitivity.

You quote me saying it was easier to get the uncircumcised man off with a hand job and then tell me its the opposite but say being circumcised erodes the nerve endings? Should I assume you clicked the wrong button or something? If not, are you telling me that you have experienced both circumcised and uncircumcised masturbation?

I tiger living in Mike Tysons penthouse suite may never know the plains that it would have hunted on, but it's removal is still wrong. People born into slavery have never known true freedom, so it doesn't matter that they don't have it...?

I don't have a say in it one way or the other as far as how he feels about being circumcised. Want I should give him a time out for his trangresion of not missing what he never knew? Just say the word, I will send him to his room.

On top of it all though, I just find it almost insulting when (mainly American) women say that something that is a natural part of a man's body "grosses them out", and that they need painful and pointless surgery to look good.. Well, go get a nose, boob and **** job and come back, then you might not be ugly. (-obviously I'm against basically all comsetic surgery, I'm just making a point-)

I was clearly talking about the cleanliness issue "yucking" me out and not the look of it. I prefer the look of a circumcised penis yes but Im not "grossed out" by the look of an uncircumcised penis. Not that I ever stated my feelings on it but I am against cosmetic surgery as well. Its easier to assume Im all for it to prove a point. I dont think circumcision can be compared to ELECTIVE surgical proceedures to alter appearance. You prefer purple trousers I prefer jeans. Circumcision is justified shortly after birth for medical reasons not cosmetic.

Well then don't complain about less spontaneous sex then, if you gonna make the guy bath himself beforehand.

Was I complaining? If stating a preference is complaining then we are all complaining now arent we...

It is a proven fact that cut men have less sensitivity.

How is this proven? You mean by men who have a circumcision later in life because being uncircumcised caused them problems? I dont understand how a circumcised man can say he is less sensitive than an uncircumcised if he has never experienced a foreskin and visa versa

Any idiot can clean there junk. And they should. If you don't. Then there will be buildup. But anyone can clean themselves

right, as I said, you would think so right? and again, tell that to those idiots I see that come through with infections and whatnot because they CANT do it. Its all they can do to hold their own cup or the ones that plain don't give a hoot about being clean.

I just think it is rediculous that some can be so picky that they don't want a guy to be like he suppose to be.

At the end of the day... I really don't care either way. A d*ck is a d*ck regardless of whats attached to it. There are alot of things people prefer that arent like they are supposed to be. Men prefer their women shave their armpits and legs. Men like to look at a woman all made up with makeup. A woman can be healthy and still be "ugly" and men wont choose her. All preference. Just call me picky I guess.

[Fallen1]

As for men judging women by their bodies, that's about finding a healthy mate (and women do it too), they're not looking for them to have their genitals mutilated at childhood to fit in with a "tradition".

Just because woman has an average looking face vs a beautiful face does not mean she is not healthy. Just because a woman has an A cup and not a D cup most men prefer in a breast size does not mean she isn't healthy. Strictly preference, has nothing to do with health.

But I do understand your point about what you would call mutilation.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Just because woman has an average looking face vs a beautiful face does not mean she is not healthy. Just because a woman has an A cup and not a D cup most men prefer in a breast size does not mean she isn't healthy. Strictly preference, has nothing to do with health.

But I do understand your point about what you would call mutilation.

Sexual attraction is natures way of finding strong genetics for offspring, eg, large breasts are associated with fertility, and the same goes for more subtle details like facial structure/hair etc.

[jonny]

[Was I complaining? If stating a preference is complaining then we are all complaining now arent we...

Your the one that brought up not being able to be spontanious.

How is this proven? You mean by men who have a circumcision later in life because being uncircumcised caused them problems? I dont understand how a circumcised man can say he is less sensitive than an uncircumcised if he has never experienced a foreskin and visa versa

Common sense says that one that is exposed all the time will be less sensitive. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to have his head just rub up against things.

And I bet there are tons of guys who get cut later in life because they are embarresed by there situation because women say it is gross.

A d*ck is a d*ck regardless of whats attached to it.

Then what did you make this thread for?

Men prefer their women shave their armpits and legs. Men like to look at a woman all made up with makeup. A woman can be healthy and still be "ugly" and men wont choose her. All preference. Just call me picky I guess.[/B]

Have you ever had to cut off a part of something just to make yourself more appealing? Or from fear of embarresment?


Most things that women feel self consicous about they can change. Most of the things about guys that some women don't like. They can't. Unless they take extreme measures.

Guys want you to have bigger boobs? Implants. Bigger booty, lips? Implants.

Guys who are short? Nothin. Guys who have small wangs? Nothin.

Guys who still have the skin on the penis, just like it was intended to be?

Well they can just get that pesky abnormal stuff sliced off.

Sorry, it just seems like there are times when things feel like a bad nightmare.

[Fallen1]

Sexual attraction is natures way of finding strong genetics for offspring, eg, large breasts are associated with fertility, and the same goes for more subtle details like facial structure/hair etc.

Have to disagree to a point here. If that were the case then all men would be attracted to the same females as clearly they aren't. Some men find rail thin women with zero body fat attractive, some men prefer women with curves.


Back to the original though - I can see valid points to both sides of the issue but I do see that one of the most important points to consider would be that something is done to the individual without their approval/say so.

[Guest]

Sorry to beat a dead horse, guys, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm a woman who loves to look at sexy men. I love the look of your beautiful c*ck, cut or uncut. I don't care. It's your heart that's important.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Yep, this conversation will just derail the thread.

Ofshoot thread: What causes sexual attraction. - Women's Health Support Forums

[Uneeklyme]

Your the one that brought up not being able to be spontanious. .

So making a statement means complaining. Quit complaning then

Common sense says that one that is exposed all the time will be less sensitive. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to have his head just rub up against things..

I know cut guys that do get off just by having the head of their penis rub against things. You say common sense tells us if its exposed it will be less sensitive. I asked how you could state it was fact. Fact is proven and undeniable. If this was fact then there wouldnt be cut men that could get off by having the head of their penis rub against something. Friction is fact cut or uncut.

And I bet there are tons of guys who get cut later in life because they are embarresed by there situation because women say it is gross.

This is probably true. I have never seen a late in life circumcision performed for asthetic purposes though. I haven't seen any woman on these threads say uncut is gross either. I have seen them mention hygene though.

Then what did you make this thread for?

Because I wanted to and I could.

Have you ever had to cut off a part of something just to make yourself more appealing? Or from fear of embarresment?

No I havent and neither did men who were circumcised shortly after birth. People get piercings and tats and stuff like that all the time to make themselves more appealing. Some people like that stuff some dont. PREFERENCE


Most things that women feel self consicous about they can change. Most of the things about guys that some women don't like. They can't. Unless they take extreme measures.

Guys want you to have bigger boobs? Implants. Bigger booty, lips? Implants.

Guys who are short? Nothin. Guys who have small wangs? Nothin.

Guys who still have the skin on the penis, just like it was intended to be?

Well they can just get that pesky abnormal stuff sliced off.

Sorry, it just seems like there are times when things feel like a bad nightmare.[/quote]
How do you figure breast, booty or lip implants arent extreme? Guys who have small wangs can get implants as well. There are proceedures that can make you taller, shorter, thinner, bigger, smaller...sheesh, there are even proceedurs now that make women tighter. Having those kids and letting guys put those pesky, abnormal things in us stretches us out some. This day and age, if I want to have my own shlong I can get one surgically attached. People, men and women, alter themselves all the time with any number of things to make themselves more attractive or feel better about themselves.


I dont mind if the thread is hijacked. Everyones opinions are interesting, whatever or wherever the topic goes.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Ah but a new thread begins.

No highjacking.

I guess, in retrospect this particular topic can certainly hit a sore point, where a male is concerned.

As, after all, this is what is happening to a MALE, not a female and their thoughts and feelings are going to create dispute, debate and possible upset.

I recall the older thread, where it went into females, religion... Same thing.

Hard topic i think.

Just my Opinion.

Emotions can play a factor.