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    Originally posted by Hopeless Dork
    The porn I've watched since being in my relationship has been with my boyfriend... the desire to check it out on my own STOPPED.
    I'm not sure that is what you have stated earlier...but i'm too lazy to look through all your old posts. Perhaps you should have a look.

    Originally posted by Hopeless Dork
    The toys I have I've used only ONCE during my relationship...
    Once is enough. May as well been every day.

    Originally posted by Hopeless Dork
    Thing is I can masturbate, and have sex immediately after and come with my boyfriend as well. I have a very high drive and capable of more than one orgasm.

    With him its either or. If he has his orgasm watching porn without me, he will not have one with me that day. PERIOD. So on days he is tired or immune to my attempts to seduce I can't help but feel... yep, porn 1- HD-0. And yes that gives me a complex of feeling inadequate
    Regardless the circumstances and rationalizations, you are hiding behind a double standard.

    I dunno, I was always taught to lead by example, and to hold others to the same standard I hold myself.

    Seems we don't agree on that.

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    • Texinator
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5556

      Originally posted by Hopeless Dork
      With him its either or. If he has his orgasm watching porn without me, he will not have one with me that day. PERIOD.
      He can't have more than one orgasm a day?

      (Sometimes I'm slow to catch on, if you haven't noticed )

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      • WildChild
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 14142

        I don't see a double standard here. She looked at porn with him, not without him.

        How the heck does using toy(s) once equate to daily?

        Masterbating and being ready and willing for your partner (which many woman can - it makes me even more responsive) and masterbating and being done for the day put it on a different plane altogether. If a man looks at porn and masterbates but still is ready and willing to pleasure his partner, that's a very different thing from essentially saying, "I took care of myself, do yourself or tough luck." Which is exactly what a lot of men do.

        I don't know where this cynicism and "double standard, stuff comes from in one so relatively young?

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        • Guest

          Originally posted by WildChild
          I don't see a double standard here.
          Asking someone to do things you aren't willing to do yourself isn't a double standard?

          Originally posted by WildChild
          I don't know where this cynicism and "double standard, stuff comes from in one so relatively young?
          I'm not sure why every time I ask someone to put their money where their mouth is, you call me cynical or bitter? Seems to be a recurring theme. I think we all know that there isn't one thing about my life that could cause me to be bitter.

          If cynicism or bitterness is part of the quest for truth, then so be it. I'm the most bitter areshole there was.



          Yes i'm young, but we can all see, feel hear things. Just because I am young doesn't mean I'm not able to grasp things beyond my years.

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          • WildChild
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            • Sep 2008
            • 14142

            Maybe I'm missing something here but what is she not willing to do that she is asking him to do?

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            • Guest

              Originally posted by WildChild
              Maybe I'm missing something here but what is she not willing to do that she is asking him to do?
              Using things your partner cannot replicate for sexual gratification.

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              • WildChild
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                • Sep 2008
                • 14142

                Originally posted by OhThereYouAre
                Using things your partner cannot replicate for sexual gratification.
                So while he's jacking off to porn and leaving her high and dry ( or wet and horny alone) she's supposed to do what? Bite her fingernails? Climb the walls?

                Even if she shoves in and masterbates him while he's watching porn, what does that do for her sexual satisfaction? NOthing, that sort of thing is a gift, you do for his pleasure. If he doesn't reciprocate she's still out in the cold sexually.

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                • Guest

                  Originally posted by WildChild
                  So while he's jacking off to porn and leaving her high and dry ( or wet and horny alone) she's supposed to do what? Bite her fingernails? Climb the walls?
                  Men are *very* able (and as HD says about her guy) very willing
                  to give women orgasms without the use of their penis. You've stated this many times, and I've read many times here that women actually prefer to not have to deal with a thrusting penis.

                  But when it's not available, all of the sudden we want it back? Lol.

                  Originally posted by WildChild
                  Even if she shoves in and masterbates him while he's watching porn, what does that do for her sexual satisfaction? NOthing, that sort of thing is a gift, you do for his pleasure. If he doesn't reciprocate she's still out in the cold sexually.
                  HD has mentioned many times before that she gets sexual satisfaction by watching her man get off.

                  Bottom line - you cannot ask someone to do something you aren't willing to do yourself, and then expect them to take you seriously.

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                  • WildChild
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 14142

                    Originally posted by OhThereYouAre
                    Men are *very* able (and as HD says about her guy) very willing
                    to give women orgasms without the use of their penis. You've stated this many times, and I've read many times here that women actually prefer to not have to deal with a thrusting penis.
                    SOME men are willing to do so, quite a few aren't (you would be surprised). Or once they've gotten off they are done, solo or with partner.

                    Originally posted by OhThereYouAre
                    But when it's not available, all of the sudden we want it back? Lol.
                    Personally, I always prefer intercourse or sexual interaction with my partner. I know not all women do, but this can't be generalised.

                    Originally posted by OhThereYouAre
                    HD has mentioned many times before that she gets sexual satisfaction by watching her man get off.

                    Bottom line - you cannot ask someone to do something you aren't willing to do yourself, and then expect them to take you seriously.
                    There is a huge difference in the pleasure a woman gets in watching or assisting a man she cares for getting off and getting it herself. You enjoy pleasuring your lady, are you then completely and totally satisfied knowing she has cum? That's just all you need to be sexually satisfied?

                    Maybe I'm obtuse today but just what is it she isn't willing to do herself? She's not asking that he go without sex.

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                    • WildChild
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 14142

                      I don't believe I've ever stated that I prefer not to deal with a thrusting penis. I have stated many times that masterbation is simply a release and in no way comparable to intercourse.

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