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  • Gia
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    • Sep 2007
    • 50

    Man Vs. Woman

    Originally posted by housewife

    NO, masturbation is an acceptable act for both women and men.
    Here in the U.S where men and women are supposed to be considered "equal" in many ways, there always exists hypocracy. For example, men and women are supposed to earn equal pay. Not!!!
    I am a research scientist/math and scientist professor with much more experience than many men I work with, however many of these men earn more money than me because I am a woman. Not Fair!!

    Also, in a marriage, it is supposed to be mutual for a man to sexually please his wife and visa versa! Years ago, and this even applies here in the U.S.A. men were supposed to be sexually pleasured by their wives exclusively and wives were not supposed to have an orgasm , nor enjoy the sexual experience, thus many women "only had sex to please their husbands and to have babies."

    I have read recent "case studies" here in the U.S.A where a husband wanted sex and his wife said "no, not tonight honey, I have a headache or I am tired." Rather than respecting the wife, the husband had sex with her anyway!(disrespecting her boundaries) and the wife phoned the police claiming "rape" against her husband! The husband had to serve jail time. "NO" means "No" even within marriages in the U.S.A.

    Masturbaion is healthy for both women and men. Medical documentation states that when men and women masturbate it relieves sexual tension. Also, when men masturbate, it decreases their chances for prostate cancer. I feel that Masturbation is O.K. PORNOGRAPHY is not O.K!
    Last edited by Gia; 10-21-2007, 03:58 PM.

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    • Gia
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 50

      Man Vs. Woman

      Originally posted by housewife
      can't agree more.
      Here in the U.S.A. where men and women are supposed to be considered "equal" in many ways, there always exists hypocracy. For example, men and women are supposed to earn equal pay. Not!!!
      I am a research scientist/math and scientist professor with much more experience than many men I work with, however many of these men earn more money than me because I am a woman. Not Fair!!

      Also, in a marriage, it is supposed to be mutual for a man to sexually please his wife and visa versa! Years ago, and this even applies here in the U.S.A. men were supposed to be sexually pleasured by their wives exclusively and wives were not supposed to have an orgasm , nor enjoy the sexual experience, thus many women "only had sex to please their husbands and to have babies."

      I have read recent "case studies" here in the U.S.A where a husband wanted sex and his wife said "no, not tonight honey, I have a headache or I am tired." Rather than respecting the wife, the husband had sex with her anyway! and the wife phoned the police claiming "rape" against her husband! The husband had to serve jail time. "NO" means "No" even within marriages in the U.S.A.

      Masturbaion is healthy for both women and men. Medical documentation states that when men and women masturbate it relieves sexual tension. Also, when men masturbate, it decreases their chances for prostate cancer. I feel that Masturbation is O.K. PORNOGRAPHY is not O.K!

      Last edited by Gia; 10-21-2007, 03:57 PM.

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      • lilly41
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 140

        Hey
        Housewife Because we're not in the mood for it you need two people to share your bodies and to be pleasured but sometimes us ladies are to tired, to much work to do etc. you need some time . and you muslium people the men are the boss you ladies cannot say no i used to have a lebonese friends i know there cultures. and some are very modern mulisum's .

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        • housewife
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 360

          Originally posted by lilly41
          Hey
          and you muslium people the men are the boss you ladies cannot say no .
          wow, that is so untrue,
          I never said no to him, and what I get is that he never said no to me.
          that is the whole idea.

          we both are obliged to satisfy each other. I am not a tool for him to have fun and then go to sleep without caring about me.

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          • housewife
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 360

            Originally posted by Gia
            Here in the U.S.A. where men and women are supposed to be considered "equal" in many ways
            I live in the USA.
            It is great have discussion with scientists, and to have a professor on this site, I am a prof.Assistant.

            I disagree with you regarding "masturbation is healthy" , what I have read in sources -away from religion- is that it increases one's chances of prostate cancer, it also cause fast ejaculation after marriage , as well as depression.

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            • inquisitive1
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 189

              Hello housewife-

              It has been my experience that different cultures and religions have different opinions on this topic. Even within the different cultures and religions themselves it can vary in opinion.

              I believe a women has a right to say no to her husband or anyone else. To be forced into a sexual act against one's will constitutes rape in my opinion as well as the laws of this land.

              I must state this however, if one partner (the man or the wife) in the relationship is constantly refusing sex thus rejecting their partner, it is a very destructive action. No one wants to be rejected all the time. One things for sure and two things for certain most people will get what they want or lack even if it's not from their spouse. Even if they have to consider divorce to do it.
              Last edited by inquisitive1; 10-21-2007, 09:16 PM.
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              • Gia
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                • Sep 2007
                • 50

                Masturbation

                Originally posted by housewife
                I live in the USA.
                It is great have discussion with scientists, and to have a professor on this site, I am a prof.Assistant.

                I disagree with you regarding "masturbation is healthy" , what I have read in sources -away from religion- is that it increases one's chances of prostate cancer, it also cause fast ejaculation after marriage , as well as depression.
                Likewise, It is great to have a discussion with you as well. Anyway, the literature I read written by some medical doctors state that masturbation is O.K, however I agree with you that it does cause depression. I think that it may cause depression if masturbation is abused and used compulsively and obsessively like any addiction. If used in moderation masturbation is supposed to be healthy, a sexual tension release and supresses prostate cancer

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                • Gia
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 50

                  Meditation

                  Since many of us women are care givers, how do all of you meditate to unwind and escape from the daily pressures of work, family etc...?

                  As for myself, I reside near a great deal of wineries, the ocean, hot mineral baths, massages etc...I enjoy the massages, mineral baths, Water therapy, swimming laps helps me a great deal.
                  Also, the spiritual sector of my religion, the mysticism and a strong belief in G-D helps me as well!

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                  • inlovagin
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 30

                    Originally posted by inquisitive1
                    I believe a women has a right to say no to her husband or anyone else. To be forced into a sexual act against one's will constitutes rape in my opinion as well as the laws of this land.
                    How in the world could anything that housewife said go to the extreme of spouse Rape. Yes women have the right to say NO but housewife said why would any woman want to say no to there husband. To me she has never given any impression of feeling like a slave to here husband. She speaks as if she truly admires her husband and he gives her everything she desires. So she in return gives him everything that he disires. To me that sounds like selfless and unconditionaly love. What is wrong with love like that. I thought that the American dream somewhere in it had the "pursuit of happyness." Marraige should be the joining of two and happyness for both. If you are married and all you are insterested in is pleasing yourself and not pleasing your spouse. Why are you married? What is the point? You can be selfish by yourself.

                    So life is not fair. Society speaks of equality but it is not there. So what does that mean wives dont have sex with there husband because it shows society that women have the right to say NO. 2 points for society and none or the husband. "Sorry honey, I dont care about how you feel or pleasing you sexually, I am worried about society, I am too tired tonight for sex because I spent all my energy on society.

                    This statement is not directed at anyone.
                    Last edited by inlovagin; 10-22-2007, 01:19 AM.

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                    • inquisitive1
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 189

                      Originally posted by inlovagin
                      How in the world could anything that housewife said go to the extreme of spouse Rape. Yes women have the right to say NO but housewife said why would any woman want to say no to there husband. To me she has never given any impression of feeling like a slave to here husband. She speaks as if she truly admires her husband and he gives her everything she desires. So she in return gives him everything that he disires. To me that sounds like selfless and unconditionaly love. What is wrong with love like that. I thought that the American dream somewhere in it had the "pursuit of happyness." Marraige should be the joining of two and happyness for both. If you are married and all you are insterested in is pleasing yourself and not pleasing your spouse. Why are you married? What is the point? You can be selfish by yourself.

                      So life is not fair. Society speaks of equality but it is not there. So what does that mean wives dont have sex with you husband because it shows society that women have the right to say NO. 2 points for society sorry honey, I dont care about how you feel I am worried about society needs my energy not you.

                      This statement is not directed at anyone.
                      Hello inlovagin-

                      In some cultures and religions women do not have the right to say no because men and women are not considered equal. If a women has to have sex against her will....like it or not it is what it is.

                      This is the second time one of your posts to me has read as a personal attack. I gave my opinion. That is what this forum is for. You can have a difference of opinion without attacking mine. Always show respect and agree to disagee and move on. I have advanced education as well. I know it does not invalidate everything someone else thinks or says. Nor does it give me the right to be rude to someone if they do not agree with me. You quoted me, you used my words, then you threw insults at me. Your little disclaimer at the bottom of your post does not exempt you. I am not your "honey". It is not my concern if you care about how I feel or where society needs your energy. I submit if you don't want to give me your energy then don't waste it on negative post such as this one. Don't you dare judge me or call me selfish. You know NOTHING about me! You would be hard pressed to find anyone on this site or in my personal life that would describe me as "selfish". If housewife has an issue with me she is more than welcome to present it to me. I will not tolerate this from you or anyone else. Consider this my last notice to you. I will not participate in bickering. Because I don't even get down like that.
                      Last edited by inquisitive1; 10-22-2007, 01:09 AM.
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