[Guest]

not a problem. you're content to indulge in activities that admittedly lack honor. yopur actions match your beliefs - which defines integrity. i would say you've achieved a level of self actualization that eludes most of us, albeit it on what i believe is the wrong road.

all i've ever asked of anyone debating porn with me is that they recognize it for what it is. don't use porn & call it admirable.

so i'll agree with you that porn is dishonorable & disagree that it's OK to be content with that.

may you find happiness in your nihilistic journey toward self-gratification.

on a different note, i'd like to point out something else that caught my attention. you indicated that there was no one else looking out for your interests but you, thus the need to be selfish:

I have a right to be selfish. Who else is looking after my needs/wants as rigerously as me? If I wasn't selfish I'd be dead.

assuming you're right, i would suggest it's due to the fact that too many people have adopted this perspective that you voiced in a different paragraph:

People are "used" for things in return for other things all the time. I'm used to fix someones computer, and I recieve financial reimbursement. That's the bloody economy. If a woman isn't willing to work in porn, she shouldn't. That ends the argument, at least as far as I'm concerned.

right & wrong exist despite the choices other people make. thank god there are people out there who are concerned a little farther than you.

[Guest]

on an entirely different note (& in the interest of being obnoxious)...

the grammar lesson falls on deaf ears:

You don't use your energy to make your partner not want to leave you? Remove the double negative and you get "You use your energy to make your partner want to leave you", or at best "I make no effort for the sake of our relationship".

there is no double negative in the statement, "You don't use your energy to make your partner not want to leave you."

"...not want to leave you" is a modifier. the actual root sentence is, "You don't use your energy to make your partner."

To make it a double negative, you should say "You don't use your energy to not make your partner (not want to leave you)."

for what it's worth.

[hotdogg]

ha! ha! ha!

you always know when someone has lost the argument they have to resort to attacking grammer and spelling!

pathetic!

[Guest]

could be. just keep in mind i wasn't the one to bring up grammar.

hotdogg, forgive me. but i think this thread might be a little over your head. no one's stomping & yelling childish insults here.

i don't think you'd be comfortable.

[hotdogg]

YAWN!

Yet more patronizing dribble.

[ChelseaRenee]

Porn is selfish, and self-concerning. There is nothing admirable about it, and women get intimidated when they aren't the only sexual release for their males, as it kills their feeling of self-worth. Get over it.

My, Lord. You know that porn is intimidating and compromises women's self-worth, and your response is "get over it"? Good God. Lucky woman you've got to have such a great, caring, loving, boyfriend like you.

[hotdogg]

hotdogg, you have no idea how glad I am to see a woman on here agree with me, I was starting to lose hope in the gender a little. You seem to be a liberated and free woman, who's managed to put a few of your psychological problems on hold for a better life.

thanks whitefemale!
it is nice to see a guy on here with a realistic view on life too.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

My, Lord. You know that porn is intimidating and compromises women's self-worth, and your response is "get over it"? Good God. Lucky woman you've got to have such a great, caring, loving, boyfriend like you.

It compromises my self worth that I'm not woken up to a blowjob and a banquet every morning. I got over that.



And whilhelm, let's look at this mathematically rather than gramatically:

"You don't use your energy to make your partner not want to leave you."
subtract on each side of the equation
"You use your energy to make your partner want to leave you."

Even if it's not a technical grammatical double negative, it is a mathematical one. I know this was probably just a slip up on your part, but you can't pretend that's not what it means.


And whilhelm, you can't really handle discussion very well can you? You feel compelled to bring irrelevent insults and patronisation into it. Perhaps if you controlled your arguments slightly better people would listen to you.

[ChelseaRenee]

It compromises my self worth that I'm not woken up to a blowjob and a banquet every morning. I got over that.

Something like that doesn't compromise your self-worth, and you know it. That's something no one in their right mind would expect to have happen for them. However, a women can expect enough respect from her boyfriend for him not to look at porn. There's a big difference. Not waking up to a banquet doesn't compromise the way anyone sees themselves- You've admitted that's exactly what porn does. Don't make silly comparisons.

[anonymouswhitefemale]

Actually I think it's quite similar.

I know that it is a psychological insecurity/problem that makes women feel the way they do about this, which is why I don't attribute it with much worth.

However, a women can expect enough respect from her boyfriend for him not to look at porn.

I don't agree.