Little:

If I may ask, what do you mean by double digits? Are you referring to men giving the size and girth measurements or that the lengths is in double digits?

Fallen & Socoken:

I think both of you raise interesting views – although at the end of it, I agree more with fallen, that although there can be some women who care about size (Lizzard likes measuring and beautiful disaster measures in a secret way with her hand length) most women do not care.

But with this said, I also think socoken does raise a good point. When you read some of the post at this website, such as “It hurts so good” there is a discussion between Raina and Purplegirl997, in which Raina states her new boyfriend is “large downstairs” and that it makes we “wild” and “wiggle” with purplegirl997 remarking that the same thing happens to her (with a larger guy) and she “loves it.” Likewise, in other posts there is a similar pattern and even some of the women who claim size is not a big deal still communicates how large their men are to the half inch.

At the end of the day, however, I think Fallen is correct – what most women are saying is that most women do not care and I think men l=need to learn the same thing and internalize it (along with breast size). But I also think – related to Kristalyn comment – that there can be a general curiosity and it has very little or nothing to do with feelings for the guy. That is why I commented in post 15 that if some guy claimed to have a 9-11 inch penis I would like to see it, because (1) I think these figures are completely made up, driven by pornography and the trickery of film, and (2) there would be simple curiosity.

Kristalyn:

In regard to your comment that I could look up a 10 or 11 inch penis online, my view is that online can’t be trusted because there are so many ways to create fake images online or on TV – such as manipulating size via digital wizardry – I think that almost no men can be this size. And as has been outlined in this post, the women who have claimed that their boys friends were 9.5 inches are simply sharing what their boyfriend state and I would argue that most men make up size to sound like they are bigger than what they say. Although not homosexual (and by saying this I do not mean to put down homosexuals), I would want to see it to believe it.

Further, the reason I find this subject interesting is that I am sick and tired of the message in society that bigger-is-better (also related to breasts, that is why I have posted against breast implants). For men who are naturally larger it can contribute to sexually objectifying oneself and actually thinking one’s worth and credibility is associated to penis size and for men who are smaller they often report feelings of inadequacies. I am trying to debunk the notion that bigger is bigger and these mythical stories of men having 10 inch penises. Scientific study after study outline that 90% of men are a certain size and those that are larger or smaller do not deviate from the norm very much.

I am also trying to underscore how our language can outline mixed messages. I find a woman saying that penis size is not important, but can also outline that her boyfriend is larger to the tenth degree (9.5 inches) to be a mixed message – if size is not important, why do they communicate exact sizes ? So maybe some of the women here (and obviously men) need to stop staying exact sizes and only use vague language related to issue related to size.

[Fallen1]

You have misunderstood my post. Im not stating that the four threads I used in my example conflict with each other. Im stating that those are four threads that are based on size, and how it matters (differently in each) that conflict strongly with every thread a guy posts asking about his size, and the hostility that follows a member suggesting size matters without an immediate problem that derives from it.

Sorry if I have misinterpreted your statement.

Still it remains that it's not conflicting. It's just differences of opinions in women. Yes, there have been women that post about size being an issue but that doesn't mean that ALL feel that way.

Interestingly enough I think that most of the threads here that refer to size as being (or possibly being) an issue have been created by a male member. Therefore if you base who you believe is more into the size issue on threads here it would be the guys.

I think you might need to take another look at the threads you refer to and see who posted what. I'll bet you that these "conflicting" answers you are stating that you've seen are not conflicting at all as it has not been the same member saying "yes it does" in one and "no it doesn't" in the other. They were made by different members.

I also don't believe that anywhere it's been said that ALL women do not see size as an issue but it has been stated that MOST women have no issue with it.

Oh my ........... I can give an exact measurement and state that I'm 5'8". That must mean that I think being slightly taller than the norm for a female is better.

(Sorry for the sarcasm)

You have misunderstood my post. Im not stating that the four threads I used in my example conflict with each other. Im stating that those are four threads that are based on size, and how it matters (differently in each) that conflict strongly with every thread a guy posts asking about his size, and the hostility that follows a member suggesting size matters without an immediate problem that derives from it.

[Darling]

I've never measured my husbands and he never told me a measurement, but one day I happened to be pleasing him.. and needed a drink of water and noticed the bottle was about the same size. It was so funny, I had to put them side by side! But it had nothing to do with wanting to know how big he was but now when I drink from a water bottle I think about his penis!

[Fallen1]

I think the mixed message is that there are three threads on the first two pages started by women because of an issue with the small size of a male interest, and one of how size makes for a "good hurt" that is hard to explain why they cant get enough of it. Yet, when a guy asks about his size when it matters to him, it is shot down vehemently.

Its sort of like a few people making observations on climate shift, only to have others jump on their soap box to insist climate shift is fabricated, because it still snows at their house in January.

I think you might need to take another look at the threads you refer to and see who posted what. I'll bet you that these "conflicting" answers you are stating that you've seen are not conflicting at all as it has not been the same member saying "yes it does" in one and "no it doesn't" in the other. They were made by different members.

I also don't believe that anywhere it's been said that ALL women do not see size as an issue but it has been stated that MOST women have no issue with it.

Oh my ........... I can give an exact measurement and state that I'm 5'8". That must mean that I think being slightly taller than the norm for a female is better.

(Sorry for the sarcasm)

[Ashlee T.]

*ahem* Because I have eyes, and because I know based on the size of a ruler (12 inches) that my hand is about 6 inches......it's definitely not hard for me to get an accurate perception of a mans size.

I had a bf once who fixated on it, made comments about it alot and even though I have ZERO doubt he had measured it numerous times, he asked me once to measure it. I don't even recall if I did or not (it's been years), but I know that I have never, not even once, CONSIDERED pulling out a measuring tape with any guy I have ever dated. I have had some guys state their size to the hundredth decimal place. Though we have discussed size on here before, I have NEVER, not even once, talked with girlfriends about "my bf is 7.25 inches". The only question like that I have ever been asked in the company of women was at a bachelorette party, "Who has been your best sex partner and why?". None of the responses had anything to do with size. I think that's pretty telling.

If one woman likes huge penises because she enjoys the pain inflicted by them, good for her. I don't mind. There are plenty other women who prefer a more average size because it doesn't cause the pain. It's very little different than a guy who see's a girl with a large chest versus one with a smaller chest.

[Maximus]

I do not see the point here...it is a unit of measurement, I am going to say that number because I know how to measure and I know that it is going to be a number, a value, a set of digits. It is the switch from it being a number to a number with meaning that causes the problem, before that switch to interpretation it is merely a number. But as for the question why as a woman I can say my bf is 7 or 7.5 inches is entirely because I know how to measure something, I know values and relative distances/sizes between things, and I am aware that if I measure something it is going to have a number value. My bf measured himself, I did not, but I am again able to do measurements because I am well aware how to distinguish lengths by visuals alone...I do not interpret 5 inches as 9 and so forth. Do I care about what that number represents? No. But I can still say it is a number because again that is all it is.

The nerd in me really likes this answer

I think the mixed message is that there are three threads on the first two pages started by women because of an issue with the small size of a male interest, and one of how size makes for a "good hurt" that is hard to explain why they cant get enough of it. Yet, when a guy asks about his size when it matters to him, it is shot down vehemently.

Its sort of like a few people making observations on climate shift, only to have others jump on their soap box to insist climate shift is fabricated, because it still snows at their house in January.

[kristalyn_04]

Itsasecret:

We just have different views on how people will respond. I do not think most people are objective robot types that will see the number and not have a human interpretation to it. I am not suggesting you are wrong and I am right, but I think with a larger number will come a human curiosity. But maybe I am wrong.

If somebody wants to see what a 9 or 10 or 11 inch penis looks like, they can look it up online. And so what if someone is curious about it? That does not mean that they would prefer it over a smaller penis or that their opinion about penis size would change. I don't understand why the subject is such an issue for you.

A number value is straight forward and unambiguous so it can be much easier to say an exact number. However, then comes the part of people not actually knowing what 9.5 inches is (I had a girl at school the other day tell me a standard mechanical pencil was 12 inches long) so in her way of seeing things 9.5 inches could really be an average 5 inches. If a man goes for his own measuring then it is still a repetition of what a woman's SO says to her, if she wishes to place great value onto that size because of the number then so be it. But as for the number itself it is still merely a number to her if she has already said she does not care.

Itsasecret:

We just have different views on how people will respond. I do not think most people are objective robot types that will see the number and not have a human interpretation to it. I am not suggesting you are wrong and I am right, but I think with a larger number will come a human curiosity. But maybe I am wrong.